The MeloPause Trade Thread

bleedblue3303 · Post #341 » by **bleedblue3303** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:18 am

Maybe we are holding our. And not playing desperate. We are getting some of that trade value back for Melo

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FKF · Post #342 » by **FKF** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:29 am

bleedblue3303 wrote:Maybe we are holding our. And not playing desperate. We are getting some of that trade value back for Melo

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We are not.

ctorres · Post #343 » by **ctorres** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:32 am

I will be so happy if Melo stays.

His adopted sons KP and Willy are about to break out.

His lifelong companions in Baker and LT are still around.

His protege THjr has come back!

He has already taken care of Ntilikina by letting him work out in his gym.

Just as his teammates would, I as well would welcome Melo back with open arms.

Knicksfan20 · Post #344 » by **Knicksfan20** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:04 am

It would have worked if we ran the correct offense. Should have been Iso Melo with Amare setting picks and rolling. The combo would have been unstoppable with Melo's midrange game and Amare's roll/finishing ability. We saw Amare and Melo do pick and roll a total of 5 times maybe. Made 0 sense.

Greenie · Post #345 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:06 am

knicksh20b wrote:
Battery wrote:
Greenie wrote:KP
Melo
Lee
Hardaway
Rondo

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I'm happy too. That's a 15 win team. Say hello to top 3 lottery. Thank you, Jesus.

Nah, that's a treadmill team. KP not chasing bigs around the perimeter anymore. Melo able to use quickness and stretch the floor. Rose leaving is addition by subtraction. No triangle around to confuse our players. Lee is solid and will benefit from passes. We still have enough weaknesses that we'll lose a fair amount, but we gotta work hard to tank in this conference.

If KP actually develops then that's not treadmill. That's a dangerous team.

It's up to KP. What's it gonna be?

Ray Williams · Post #346 » by **Ray Williams** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:26 am

Polk377 wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:houston got a decision to make. give up ariza or no deal.

Where do u see this ?

Personally I don't think the Knicks want Ariza back at this point. He is 32 and doesn't fit into long term plans.

I don't think Ariza would be coming here, must be the 3rd or 4th team involved in the trade that's insisting on Ariza.

amsterdamknicks · Post #347 » by **amsterdamknicks** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:27 am

All this drama for nothing....

At least I'll get some work done today

Stannis · Post #348 » by **Stannis** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:33 am

I was really ready to move on from this Melo era. But I hope the Knicks held off because the return package just wasn't good.

If the package was just scrub rentals, which I'm sure Morey was offering, the team would have been pretty depleted. And I don't think KP is ready to be front and center just yet, and Ntilikina would be tasked to run a pretty talentless offense.

We need pieces back. I'm actually being optimistic here, but I think this increases the leverage against Houston and Cleveland. They got great superteams. But if they can acquire Melo, they might think that will take them over the hump to actually challenge GS. The Rockets and Cavs are being stingy right now because they can, but that can change around the trade deadline when one of their players goes down or something.

Reign23 · Post #349 » by **Reign23** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:44 am

Greenie wrote:KP
Melo
Lee
Hardaway
Rondo

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

yes there is a small chance that we finally get to see melo and kp at the 4/5 with a real playmaker and shooters. small chance...

Reign23 · Post #350 » by **Reign23** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:47 am

if melo stays I would go hard after bledsoe with some combination of lee/kyle/kuz/2nd rounders. maybe they do it

Fat Kat · Post #351 » by **Fat Kat** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:55 am

Hopefully Perry is just reworking the deal. He probably looked at the original offers and told Mills to smarten up

KnicksGadfly · Post #352 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:04 am

Greenie wrote:
knicksh20b wrote:
Battery wrote:
I'm happy too. That's a 15 win team. Say hello to top 3 lottery. Thank you, Jesus.

Nah, that's a treadmill team. KP not chasing bigs around the perimeter anymore. Melo able to use quickness and stretch the floor. Rose leaving is addition by subtraction. No triangle around to confuse our players. Lee is solid and will benefit from passes. We still have enough weaknesses that we'll lose a fair amount, but we gotta work hard to tank in this conference.

If KP actually develops then that's not treadmill. That's a dangerous team.

It's up to KP. What's it gonna be?

Even if he does develop, I still think it's treadmill. AD, for example, has been a beast for years, and also stuck. If we moved KP for AD, I still doubt our team would be good. THJ will need to develop and d up. Willy would have to continue bench play. Frank would have to show some flashes. I think Melo can still play, but I do see him getting older and less athletic, and if the improvements made by the youth are upset by aging vets, then it's treadmill. You're right though...there are different avenues to improvement beyond just the draft

Jimmit79 · Post #353 » by **Jimmit79** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:04 am

Knicks are trying to see if rockets can add anymore to it.

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FKF · Post #354 » by **FKF** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:23 am

Knicksfan20 wrote:It would have worked if we ran the correct offense. Should have been Iso Melo with Amare setting picks and rolling. The combo would have been unstoppable with Melo's midrange game and Amare's roll/finishing ability. We saw Amare and Melo do pick and roll a total of 5 times maybe. Made 0 sense.

This suggested Melo'd agree to pass the ball rather than shoot.
We saw what he prefers to do.

Knicksfan20 · Post #355 » by **Knicksfan20** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:32 am

FKF wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:It would have worked if we ran the correct offense. Should have been Iso Melo with Amare setting picks and rolling. The combo would have been unstoppable with Melo's midrange game and Amare's roll/finishing ability. We saw Amare and Melo do pick and roll a total of 5 times maybe. Made 0 sense.

This suggested Melo'd agree to pass the ball rather than shoot.
We saw what he prefers to do.

I'll take an Open Melo jump shot any day of the week. But if he sees an open Amare with a free lane, I doubt he doesn't pass for the Dunk. Nvm.. I take that back. :lol:

NYKnicka · Post #356 » by **NYKnicka** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:32 am

#StayMe7o

FutureKnicksGM · Post #357 » by **FutureKnicksGM** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:43 am

Solid start for the new guy. Looks like he's not a dumbass like Phil and will maybe try get a little value back for Melo. We got all summer, and longer if need be, to get a decent deal.

Surprise, surprise, Phil's fanboys crying about this :lol:

. Don't worry, no body is gonna steal away Ryan Anderson or Myers Leonard.

thebuzzardman · Post #358 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:49 am

Tradus Interruptus

Knicks pull out, Morey unsatisfied, looking for a 3rd party to get the action going again.

FKF · Post #359 » by **FKF** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:56 am

FutureKnicksGM wrote:Solid start for the new guy. Looks like he's not a dumbass like Phil and will maybe try get a little value back for Melo. We got all summer, and longer if need be, to get a decent deal.

Surprise, surprise, Phil's fanboys crying about this . Don't worry, no body is gonna steal away Ryan Anderson or Myers Leonard.

Melo doesn't have much value at the level he is paid. Phil tried to get offers and found out there was no market, which led to thinking into a buy-out. The buy-out was the right move for the Knicks organization.

Melo hasn't had a market for him at 25m per year, since the Bulls were only willing to offer him the 4 yrs $70m the Knicks are now paying Hardaway.

This new GM isn't going to magically turn Melo into Gordon, Ariza & Capella.
Rockets would be fools to buy at that cost, even CP3 will understand that.

Folks say the NTC makes a trade complicated and it's true, but there's still $55m remaining across two years, and it's a lot of money to pay for someone who pushed their current coach out of NY and is so selective on defense.

HarthorneWingo · Post #360 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:00 am

FKF wrote:You guys are all being played.

They are going to twist this and announce Melo staying is a better deal than Melo getting traded for the garbage they were legitimately offered.

D'Antoni doesn't want Melo. LeBron no longer runs the Cavs. Dolan doesn't want Melo to be bought-out.

Melo is staying, enjoy just another 30-52 season of isolation offense.

Oh, I'm definitely afraid that this exactly what's going to happen.