The MeloPause Trade Thread

[F N 11]

You're just mad that there's a possibility he stays on the Knicks

Stay salty dude

Be a Knicks fan for once and root for your players. Only fans like you want to give him up for garbage.

Yeah u havent been reading my post. I'm all for the pause. Im a smart fan who knows this is a leverage move. You on the other hand thinks he wont get traded. What you going to change your name to??

It could be a leverage move. Will it work? Who knows.

Let me know when you can think of a team that will take Ryan Anderson's contract.

No one knows wtf is going on.

[Da_Mane_Man]

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I wonder if the pause would allow Cleveland to try and make a strong play?

honestly a shumpert/frye/jefferson/felder/osman package is better than Anders/Leonard + Harkless and a future 1st round pick

you could buyout jefferson...felder/osman try and keep.

You can move shumpert and frye to a contender either now or at deadline for maybe a 2nd round or two...and no long term deals.

The HOU deal becomes better if they find an expiring for Leonard. Harkless, and expirings + a 1st round pick is better than the above cle dead which is probably what we are shooting for.

Dumping him for cap relief and a few 2nd round prospects isn't appealing to me at all. I want 1st round picks!!!!! I don't care if we need to take back a bad contract or 2 to do it. We're not gonna be players in free agency anytime soon anyway. We need to show that we have a strong organization and a young team with potential before anyone significant is going to want to come here. That is going to take a couple of years to accomplish. By then, those bad contracts will be off the books or expiring... and those draft picks will be big assets.

[F N 11]

The clutchfans guys are so bitter. They want Melo so badly and are so butt hurt that we are actually doing due diligence for once. They know they can't beat GS without Melo and are turning their frustration into irrational hate. Finally we are the organization being smart for once. Why WOULDN'T we take a step back the moment we hire a real, actual basketball GM with experience?

Their salty tears make this worth it. They aren't entitled to **** and if someone from that board is reading this y'all aren't **** with Melo either

This is the exact reaction we want. It feels weird being on the right side of negotiations. They probably trying not to give up a first or a core piece. Tough luck. You give to get.

[3toheadmelo]

Yeah u havent been reading my post. I'm all for the pause. Im a smart fan who knows this is a leverage move. You on the other hand thinks he wont get traded. What you going to change your name to??

It could be a leverage move. Will it work? Who knows.

Let me know when you can think of a team that will take Ryan Anderson's contract.

No one knows wtf is going on.

I'm betting it's the Ryan Anderson contract that's holding this up and the return for the Knicks

[3toheadmelo]

Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

[Juco24]

This is such a great move by the Knicks. We weren't getting what we wanted, so take a step back. At the very least the Cavs have to consider upping their offer, or if Melo actually comes back and has a great season, we either keep him around and make a playoff push, or move him at the deadline when there is a clearer playoff picture for him to look at.

Nice post. Melo wasn't really the problem last year, it was Derrick Rose.

This team needs a pass first PG to get the other guys involved. I can't remember how many times Rose checked off KP on the offensive end.

Melo is actually quite valuable to this team; he makes a concerted effort to get KP involved on the offensive end, takes a lot of the heat off of KP (i.e. lack of double teams on Porzingis,) and the man was just a season removed from leading this team in assists per game.

If this team never picked up Rose last year (and weren't riddled with injuries,) they could've been playoff bound. That's how much of a negative impact Rose had on the team, especially on the offensive side (which is saying something considering he was abysmal defensively.)

If they hold onto Melo and can actually bring in a pass first PG, this team can compete for the playoffs. Now that might not sound enticing to a lot of fans on here, but I'm sure guys like KP would cherish the opportunity for some playoff experience. The team has to show improvement on a year by year basis if they truly want to build something here. Tanking annually will cause a lot more rifts than benefits.

cannot +1 this enough

Yes and YES! Rose was a me first PG who drove to finish, not to assist. Someone like that PG who is still unsigned that commands Melo's respect like Kidd did and will get EVERYONE involved would do wonders!! And who likes losing?? Really? We want KP to go through another tank season?

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

Teams know Melo's value by now.

[bigfnjoe96]

So much butt hurt going around...

[Trav_NYK]

looking forward to another year of this team trying to make the playoffs yet trying to tank at the same time.... it'll be juuust nice...

[levendis]

Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

Him giving out a NTC and Melos declining play destroyed Melos value. Just stop man

[seren]

Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

Teams know Melo's value by now.

Correct. That is why Morey will be back with a vastly improved offer as long as we sit tight and not panic. There is no way Ryan Anderson and his no D 28% 3 point playoff shooting will get this done.

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[mpharris36]

The thing for HOU is they have to trade for him. Since we aren't buying him out. If he excercises his ETO option next year the rockets will basically only have the MLE to offer him. No way is he taking 6 or 7 million to play next year...

HOU has to trade for him or he won't ever be a rocket.

[3toheadmelo]

Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

Him giving out a NTC and Melos declining play destroyed Melos value. Just stop man

Should I post this again for the 100000th time for the anti Melo Club?

NBA execs reportedly say Phil Jackson is destroying Carmelo Anthony's trade value

Though anonymously, NBA executives said as much to the New York Daily News on Sunday:
"Phil made a statement basically that Carmelo's a losing type of player. Well, if he's a loser for the Knicks, he's going to be a winner someplace else? That obviously didn't help," one Eastern Conference executive said.

"Tremendously," another exec said when asked how much Jackson may have damaged Anthony's trade value. "He essentially said, 'I want to dump this guy.' "

As one Eastern Conference front office member noted, teams are just not willing to give up major pieces after all the talking Jackson has done.
"Most owners would just roast you if you said something like that," the Eastern exec said, theorizing the return for Anthony could be "a protected first-round pick. It sure sounds like the Knicks want to get rid of him, so teams won't give up any of their core to add him. That would be defeating the purpose."

Facts ON Facts

Go leave with phil jackson.

[shtolky]

The Rockets need to acquire Melo far more than we have to dump him. Not saying we should keep him or want to, but Houston is going for it. They HAVE to make this type of a move. The other stars available went elsewhere. Giving up assets for an aging Cp3, who is going to be a FA, and giving that massive extension to Harden shows they are going for it. Even Morey said this. They will have to sign Cp3 to a big deal. They can't beat GS as currently constructed, not even close. They probably can't with Melo, but they would have a much better shot with him. I think Morey felt he would bend us over as in the past, but us pulling back shows that he won't get Melo for free. And we sure as hell aren't buying him out so he can go there for nothing. No other "star" like Melo can be had for what the Rockets are offering, or even their best offer. Melo is the only guy. Patience, patience, patience.

[Tron Carter]

The clutchfans guys are so bitter. They want Melo so badly and are so butt hurt that we are actually doing due diligence for once. They know they can't beat GS without Melo and are turning their frustration into irrational hate. Finally we are the organization being smart for once. Why WOULDN'T we take a step back the moment we hire a real, actual basketball GM with experience?

ya'll think melo gets hate here but it's nothing compared to how much those fans hate ryan anderson. i would assume the same should be said for portland fans in regards to meyers leonard.

hey morey:

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

As much as the Knicks need to move on from Anthony I like this move. It's basically Mills telling Morey that he's not trying hard enough. I'm impressed actually. Previous front office decision makers would have caved (see...oh...pretty much every GM since...who was the GM of the 73 Knicks again?).

Agreed. I have been criticizing our front office quite a bit for the THJ contract, but now they deserve equal praise for this move. The Knicks need to set a new tone when it comes to Melo trade negotiations (and negotiations in general). The CP3 trade changed things and firing Phil changed things, and we should be behaving as such. If we ever want to get a decent deal for Melo, we need to show that we aren't desperate and that we are (at least on the surface) willing to keep him until the right trade comes along.

[F N 11]

The fact that Houstons fan base is panicking is so much joy. You thought you were getting him for cheap huh? lol

[Knicks Byke]

Said this for months and I'll keep saying it

Phil Jackson destroyed the majority of Melos value which is why teams are offering trash for him

Good thing mills has a brain.

[Carl_Karlson]

I hope CP3 and Harden are bugging the shyt out of Morey right now to give us what we want

[Knicks Byke]

The fact that Houstons fan base is panicking is so much joy. You thought you were getting him for cheap huh? lol

they're gonna cave in with CP3 on the squad now.