The MeloPause Trade Thread

Juggynaut · Post #761 » by **Juggynaut** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:12 pm

ChilledAlex wrote:Why would Pop want someone like Melo on his team?

He just acquire a poor man's Melo in Rudy Gay.

DowNY · Post #762 » by **DowNY** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:14 pm

Juggynaut wrote:
ChilledAlex wrote:Why would Pop want someone like Melo on his team?

He just acquire a poor man's Melo in Rudy Gay.

facts

mademan · Post #763 » by **mademan** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:14 pm

taj2133 wrote:you know if anthony opts in 2018 then the media is going after him and he only cares about money and not winning

This was never in question. It's wishful thinking to believe that he'll actually walk away from a 30 mill guaranteed year at the age of 34.

taj2133 · Post #764 » by **taj2133** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:15 pm

pop can make your career or break it and trust me melo wouldn't want to be coached by pop same with pop not his type of player

taj2133 · Post #765 » by **taj2133** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:17 pm

there is 50 percent change melo might opt in wouldn't be surprised if he did and i wouldn't be surprised if he opt out either

Meat · Post #766 » by **Meat** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:18 pm

ChilledAlex wrote:Why would Pop want someone like Melo on his team?

he has melo lite lite in rudy gay
melo lite in lma
and melo white in pau

NotPhilJackson · Post #767 » by **NotPhilJackson** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:19 pm

Blockwatcher wrote:
NotPhilJackson wrote:Scott Perry is sitting at dinner with his wife at a restaurant in NY, where the owner (a huge Knicks fan) sends out a big banana split for him and her to share, on the house. Later that night, he lays in bed restless. The next day, he calls in Carmelo for a meeting.

Knicks start the season with KP, Melo, THjr, C. Lee, and a veteran PG on a 1 year deal.

Houston fails to meet expectations due to losing out on Carmelo. CP3 walks come the end of the season.

Summer 2018:
Cp3 becomes a free agent.
Dwayne Wade becomes a free agent.
Lebron James opts out of his final year, and becomes a free agent.
Carmelo opts out of his final year, and becomes a free agent.

Knicks trade Tim Hardaway Jr, and a 1st round pick to the Chicago Bulls in a sign and trade for D.Wade
Knicks trade Joakim Noah, Frank N, and a 1st round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for Demarre Carroll

Knicks sign CP3 to a reasonable contract.
Knicks sign Dwayne Wade to a reasonable contract.
Knicks sign Lebron James to max contract.
Knicks re-sign Carmelo Anthony to a reasonable contract.

Team Bananaboat 2018:
CP3
Wade
Lebron
Melo
KP6
-Lee/Baker
-Carroll/LFT/Kuz
-WHG/KOQ

Finals MVP: Carmelo Anthony

Dream sequence ends - camera blurs and wiggles as bright light covers your view of the 2018 Champion New York Knicks as that image transitions into the image of a banana sundae sitting on the table between Scott Perry and his wife in their first night out in NYC.

If that's his dream. I hope that banana split is poisoned

Loolol - I'm a youth movement guy, dont get it twisted. Just thought it was interesting how these guys all can potentially be free agents next year.

Sark · Post #768 » by **Sark** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:20 pm

Greenie wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Greenie wrote:

It's common sense though. If you publicly don't value something why should I give you something of value to take it from you?

Why?

WHY?

Because he's Carmelo Anthony and still a top 8 player offensively in the NBA which means he has value.

That's not how value works. Value works both ways. Supply and demand. This is basic business. First off, Melo is not "needed" on the teams he wishes to go to. They are already good, solid teams. The Knicks have publicly come out and said the want to move Melo while painting him as a malcontent and a flat out bad player. There is a narrative in NY that he's simply not good anymore. That right there is called personal value. It's the value we hold in something and it's expressed in multiple ways. Urgency, need, financial implications, structural integrity and so on.

When Phil kept bashing Melo with the media pilling on to the point where they, themselves started feeling bad for the guy...

It showed that the Knicks don't hold value in Melo. He's not wanted. He's expendable. Since he's a "malcontent" he must be moved before he corrupts the younger players. Add that to the fact that he isn't cheap or young and what do you expect to be offered?

How many people on this board owns things they had to haggle for? The way some of you view value makes this a relevant question.

You've obviously never studied economics by this response. Value is determined by what someone else is willing to pay, not by what the owner thinks its value is. I can think my ball of lint is worth $100 million, but if someone else is only willing to pay 10 cents for it, then it's value is 10 cents. Even if you undervalue something, that still doesn't lower the market value for something. Suppose you owned a $1m painting, but hated it. You were willing to sell it for $100k; a buyer would still be willing to pay $1m because that is the market value.

Phil Jackson's comments did nothing to Melo's value. His 14 year career is what sets his value. That and the NTC.

Amsterdam · Post #769 » by **Amsterdam** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:21 pm

Ring ring
Steve: Hello
Morey: Hi Steve, I was only joking before, lets talk for REAL now.
Steve: Talk to my GM now. pause...hangs up...dial tone....

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #770 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:23 pm

Come on Morey, listen to Klay Thompson's Dad. :lol:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/14/klay-thompsons-mychal-thompson-golden-state-warriors-houston-rockets-carmelo-anthony/

battabing10 · Post #771 » by **battabing10** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:25 pm

DowNY wrote:
Juggynaut wrote:
ChilledAlex wrote:Why would Pop want someone like Melo on his team?

He just acquire a poor man's Melo in Rudy Gay.

facts

Poor man's Melo :lol:

Rudy ranks 5th in the league on defense for starting SF. Meanwhile Melo ranks 31st out of 32 teams:http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/5

:lol:

facts

Rudy is about the same as Melo in TS but he's a better ball sharer. https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAC/2017.html

:lol:

facts

But yeah Popovich and Buford are stoopid and you be all smart 'n shyt.

boomann21 · Post #772 » by **boomann21** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:27 pm

KnicksFTW wrote:Dude got like two teams on his list....only one of which actually wants him. And he's surprised we won't take a **** haul? When we tryna rebuild?

I can't believe I was so oblivious to how selfish Melo is.

Lmao did you miss the Denver trade?

RussellandFlow · Post #773 » by **RussellandFlow** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:33 pm

This entire situation has been fascinating to watch, thinking he was Houston bound Melo went from

to

boomann21 · Post #774 » by **boomann21** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:34 pm

Read on Twitter

SelbyCobra · Post #775 » by **SelbyCobra** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:40 pm

Yeah, they totally messed up Houston's plans with this "pause". This is great.

Read on Twitter

Triple C · Post #776 » by **Triple C** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:43 pm

Read on Twitter

Newyorknick94 · Post #777 » by **Newyorknick94** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:43 pm

ChilledAlex wrote:Why would Pop want someone like Melo on his team?

Cause he's better than Aldridge

Crunchknicks1 · Post #778 » by **Crunchknicks1** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:47 pm

Damm 3 years 30 million for Simmions. We laid 71 for hardaway wow

Kampuchea · Post #779 » by **Kampuchea** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:48 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:CP3 should've went to San Antonio and Melo could've joined him there.

what do the spurs have to offer?

Spurs don't have many Ryno Anderson type contracts, which is a good thing. Don't know what they do have to offer but suppose it's not going to matter anyway.

Bill Pidto · Post #780 » by **Bill Pidto** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:52 pm

Sark wrote:
Greenie wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:

Because he's Carmelo Anthony and still a top 8 player offensively in the NBA which means he has value.

That's not how value works. Value works both ways. Supply and demand. This is basic business. First off, Melo is not "needed" on the teams he wishes to go to. They are already good, solid teams. The Knicks have publicly come out and said the want to move Melo while painting him as a malcontent and a flat out bad player. There is a narrative in NY that he's simply not good anymore. That right there is called personal value. It's the value we hold in something and it's expressed in multiple ways. Urgency, need, financial implications, structural integrity and so on.

When Phil kept bashing Melo with the media pilling on to the point where they, themselves started feeling bad for the guy...

It showed that the Knicks don't hold value in Melo. He's not wanted. He's expendable. Since he's a "malcontent" he must be moved before he corrupts the younger players. Add that to the fact that he isn't cheap or young and what do you expect to be offered?

How many people on this board owns things they had to haggle for? The way some of you view value makes this a relevant question.

You've obviously never studied economics by this response. Value is determined by what someone else is willing to pay, not by what the owner thinks its value is. I can think my ball of lint is worth $100 million, but if someone else is only willing to pay 10 cents for it, then it's value is 10 cents. Even if you undervalue something, that still doesn't lower the market value for something. Suppose you owned a $1m painting, but hated it. You were willing to sell it for $100k; a buyer would still be willing to pay $1m because that is the market value.

Phil Jackson's comments did nothing to Melo's value. His 14 year career is what sets his value. That and the NTC.

Every time I see someone say Phil lowered Melo's value :banghead: