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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#301 » by freshie2 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:05 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:Hes way more athletic than Mike Miller

And he doesn't have a fraction of the handle or on-ball ability of Mike Miller.


Not sure I agree with this...his overall game was much better than I expected. Not a huge Mike Miller fan, but don't think it's a stretch at all for Furkan to have that type of impact on games.
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#302 » by Chris76 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:21 pm

freestyler34 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:Hes way more athletic than Mike Miller

And he doesn't have a fraction of the handle or on-ball ability of Mike Miller.


i just said that hes more athletic than Miller to point out that they are not similiar players, because ppl comparing him to Miller but they are completely different type players .


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freestyler34 wrote:

Whats athletic about the video you posted ? All i see is a fat dude shooting jumpers.





A video you obviously didn't watch because literally the first clip is a dunk. What makes Korkmaz "way more athletic" from the videos you posted. I'm not seeing it.


Theres only one dunk in the video you posted and even at that dunk his feets barely gets off the ground. Have you ever seen Miiler steal the ball go to rim and finish with a reserve dunk ? Leave alone dunking, you must be blind not to see their agility not even on same level, Miller looks like moving in slow motion.


The young Mike Miller, I remember the slow, sharp shooting, LeBron's Mike Miller. Anyway, the Korkman does look promising, he checks all the boxes. Nice range from deep, (Reggie Miller).
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#303 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:31 pm

freshie2 wrote:Not sure I agree with this...his overall game was much better than I expected. Not a huge Mike Miller fan, but don't think it's a stretch at all for Furkan to have that type of impact on games.


It is a stretch because handling the ball is not Furkan's game...at all.

Mike Miller's positional handle was so far advanced that he ran point during Florida's Final Four run. He was routinely the 2nd or 3rd best ball handler in any line-up his was in throughout his prime with Orlando and Memphis.

Furkan's game is Allen Crabbe, not Mike Miller.
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Post#304 » by tk76 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:58 pm

I remember Mike Miller in college as being a fairly good athlete. Never super explosive, but certainly a driver and able to dunk with ease. Most people probably know him more for his later career manifestation age 30-37 where he was a phystically broken down shooter. Lots of injuries really slowed him down. But i his earlier prime he was a decent athlete and all around scorer who would give you 15-17 pts, and nearly 6reb and 6 asst a night.

He was not a Ray Allen level athlete, but certainly not a Kyle Korver.

I'd say Mike Miller was a better overall athlete than Brent Barry... he just was not the same level competition dunker.
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Post#305 » by MR28 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:09 pm

Not going to lie, Korkmaz doesn't strike me as a good athlete at all. He didn't even stand out as a superior athlete in SL. His ball handling and speed are going to get him swallowed up in the NBA.
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Post#306 » by ivysixer2000 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:27 pm

Well I prefer a taller SG, so I'm hoping beyond hope that Furkan or someone else can fill that bill.

I'm not a fan of midgets unless they are really special.
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#307 » by Cheatergriffin » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:54 pm

freestyler34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
Hes way more athletic than Mike Miller





Whats athletic about the video you posted ? All i see is a fat dude shooting jumpers.





Mike miller used to kill the 76ers every time they played the magic in his early days. I dont see the korkmaz/ginobli comparison at all. Korkmaz cant dribble or create ecspecially at the level ginobli could.

Im sticking with brent barry as the comp.
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#308 » by Chris76 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:40 pm

Cheatergriffin wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:



Whats athletic about the video you posted ? All i see is a fat dude shooting jumpers.





Mike miller used to kill the 76ers every time they played the magic in his early days. I dont see the korkmaz/ginobli comparison at all. Korkmaz cant dribble or create ecspecially at the level ginobli could.

Im sticking with brent barry as the comp.


Korkmaz seems clever with his pump fakes and pull-ups. Definitely, he has some playmaking ability. However, he is raw and practicing with the team is going to be invaluable. Good prospect for the future.
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Post#309 » by PhilasFinest » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:43 pm

Big difference between having "playmaking ability" off of pump fakes and being like Manu Ginobili who was one of the craftiest attacking finishers in the league.

Manu is so underrated. He was literally a star for the Spurs and a big reason why they were so good.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#310 » by Chris76 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:51 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Big difference between having "playmaking ability" off of pump fakes and being like Manu Ginobili who was one of the craftiest attacking finishers in the league.

Manu is so underrated. He was literally a star for the Spurs and a big reason why they were so good.


I agree, Manu took a beating creating shots at the rim. He and Wade we're some of the best playmaking guards. Anyway, Korkmaz is more of a spot up shooter like Otto Porter, but he should develop into a better playmaker.
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Post#311 » by Sixerscan » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:10 pm

Furk/Belinelli seems like a good comp.

He's still very young though.
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Post#312 » by NYSixersFan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:15 am

Sixerscan wrote:Furk/Belinelli seems like a good comp.

He's still very young though.



This EXACTLY the comp I was going to make.....He may never be a great starter, but a very competent rotation player.
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#313 » by bedjawII » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:30 am

Kobblehead wrote:
freshie2 wrote:Not sure I agree with this...his overall game was much better than I expected. Not a huge Mike Miller fan, but don't think it's a stretch at all for Furkan to have that type of impact on games.


It is a stretch because handling the ball is not Furkan's game...at all.

Mike Miller's positional handle was so far advanced that he ran point during Florida's Final Four run. He was routinely the 2nd or 3rd best ball handler in any line-up his was in throughout his prime with Orlando and Memphis.

Furkan's game is Allen Crabbe, not Mike Miller.

His game is way advanced to MM's at 19. If Furkan played in NCAA he'd have played the point also.
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#314 » by Chris76 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:26 pm

bedjawII wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
freshie2 wrote:Not sure I agree with this...his overall game was much better than I expected. Not a huge Mike Miller fan, but don't think it's a stretch at all for Furkan to have that type of impact on games.


It is a stretch because handling the ball is not Furkan's game...at all.

Mike Miller's positional handle was so far advanced that he ran point during Florida's Final Four run. He was routinely the 2nd or 3rd best ball handler in any line-up his was in throughout his prime with Orlando and Memphis.

Furkan's game is Allen Crabbe, not Mike Miller.

His game is way advanced to MM's at 19. If Furkan played in NCAA he'd have played the point also.


Furkan has a good opportunity to become a good player at a skilled position. If he develops into a SG/SF hybrid he will be very valuable. He looks to have the tools to make it work.
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Post#316 » by Mirotic12 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:04 pm

Furkan Korkmaz's stats at the Under-20 European Championship that just took place. Keep in mind this isn't a senior men's level tournament. It's a junior youth tournament.

35.6% overall field goal %
27.6% 3 point %
66.7% free throw %

30.3 minutes

12.8 points
4.6 rebounds
4.8 assists
2.6 steals
0.2 blocks

http://www.fiba.com/europe/u20/2017/Furkan-Korkmaz
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Post#317 » by Chris76 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:34 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:Furkan Korkmaz's stats at the Under-20 European Championship that just took place. Keep in mind this isn't a senior men's level tournament. It's a junior youth tournament.

35.6% overall field goal %
27.6% 3 point %
66.7% free throw %

30.3 minutes

12.8 points
4.6 rebounds
4.8 assists
2.6 steals
0.2 blocks

http://www.fiba.com/europe/u20/2017/Furkan-Korkmaz


That's interesting. 35% overall shooting seems bad, he seems like a much better shooter than that?
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#318 » by HotelVitale » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:57 pm

Chris76 wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:Furkan Korkmaz's stats at the Under-20 European Championship that just took place. Keep in mind this isn't a senior men's level tournament. It's a junior youth tournament.
35.6% overall field goal % 27.6% 3 point % 66.7% free throw % 30.3 minutes
12.8 points 4.6 rebounds 4.8 assists 2.6 steals 0.2 blocks
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u20/2017/Furkan-Korkmaz
That's interesting. 35% overall shooting seems bad, he seems like a much better shooter than that?

Yeah, the whole thing is a tiny sample size and the dude's framing of it seems a little troll-y: the tournament was 5 games and he had a really bad time shooting the ball in a couple of them (he was 2-11 and 4-13 in the first two games). We have a much larger sample size from his last couple years of play against better competition that says he's a much better shooter than this.

On the plus side, he did have 24 assists and only 9 turnovers, plus those 2.6 steals per game.
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Re: Welcome Furkan Korkmaz 

Post#319 » by Chris76 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:35 am

HotelVitale wrote:
Chris76 wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:Furkan Korkmaz's stats at the Under-20 European Championship that just took place. Keep in mind this isn't a senior men's level tournament. It's a junior youth tournament.
35.6% overall field goal % 27.6% 3 point % 66.7% free throw % 30.3 minutes
12.8 points 4.6 rebounds 4.8 assists 2.6 steals 0.2 blocks
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u20/2017/Furkan-Korkmaz
That's interesting. 35% overall shooting seems bad, he seems like a much better shooter than that?

Yeah, the whole thing is a tiny sample size and the dude's framing of it seems a little troll-y: the tournament was 5 games and he had a really bad time shooting the ball in a couple of them (he was 2-11 and 4-13 in the first two games). We have a much larger sample size from his last couple years of play against better competition that says he's a much better shooter than this.

On the plus side, he did have 24 assists and only 9 turnovers, plus those 2.6 steals per game.


Furkan looks like a great prospect. The experience he'll get from practice and games should be invaluable. With his size, he should become a very good wing.
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Post#320 » by Rastas » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:25 am

Above average BB IQ
Below average athleticism
Kid could go either way

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