The MeloPause Trade Thread

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #1922 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:17 am

Ok am I the only one that heard Woj say Cleveland will have to trade Love for Melo and they're ok with doing that but the Knicks don't want Love as part of their rebuild with youth mantra? Ummm, I'm pretty sure Love has more value around the league than Ryan Anderson to flip to a third team. Why was Woj so quick to dismiss it as if we were the ones not interested in doing a deal with Cleveland?
Did I hear that correctly?

MP4LIFE · Post #1923 » by **MP4LIFE** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:19 am

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Ok am I the only one that heard Woj say Cleveland will have to trade Love for Melo and they're ok with doing that but the Knicks don't want Love as part of their rebuild with youth mantra? Ummm, I'm pretty sure Love has more value around the league than Ryan Anderson to flip to a third team. Why was Woj so quick to dismiss it as if we were the ones not interested in doing a deal with Cleveland?
Did I hear that correctly?

No you didn't hear that correctly because he didn't say that.

Post #1924 » by **Capn'O** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:11 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
When I asked Melo if he was staying with the Knicks, he responded "No."

Background; I work at UCLA and every summer around this time NBA players come to practice here. Funnily enough I almost closed the door on him and I said sorry. I then noticed it was Melo. I made some small talk and he seemed friendly and I asked him if he was going to stay with the Knicks. He said a stern "no" exactly that just "no." Take it how you will but I find it interesting none of the less. Also less importantly Trevor Ariza and Lou Will were there.
Edit: people calling me out, its not like I said Melo is going to the spurs or something unbelievable.
Edit2: someone wanted the time but I didn't know the exact but before 1:30pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6nxiv2/conversin_when_i_asked_melo_if_he_was_staying/

If true that mirrors the buyout comment Mills made today.

ChaosHamster · Post #1925 » by **ChaosHamster** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:39 am

The best thing that could happen right now, is some kind of bidding war between Rockets and Cavs.. (Hard to imagine how it would look like..)

News about LeBron not being happy with what Cavs are doing is a good thing..

But yeah, I don't think Mills fooled anyone with those "We are gonna try to works things out with or without Melo"..

PeoplesChamp · Post #1926 » by **PeoplesChamp** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:43 am

ChaosHamster wrote:The best thing that could happen right now, is some kind of bidding war between Rockets and Cavs.. (Hard to imagine how it would look like..)

News about LeBron not being happy with what Cavs are doing is a good thing..

But yeah, I don't think Mills fooled anyone with those "We are gonna try to works things out with or without Melo"..

I don't think he was trying to fool anyone. He's not going to do a bad deal just to get rid of Melo. What would be the point?

HarthorneWingo · Post #1927 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:55 am

Capn'O wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:
When I asked Melo if he was staying with the Knicks, he responded "No."

Background; I work at UCLA and every summer around this time NBA players come to practice here. Funnily enough I almost closed the door on him and I said sorry. I then noticed it was Melo. I made some small talk and he seemed friendly and I asked him if he was going to stay with the Knicks. He said a stern "no" exactly that just "no." Take it how you will but I find it interesting none of the less. Also less importantly Trevor Ariza and Lou Will were there.
Edit: people calling me out, its not like I said Melo is going to the spurs or something unbelievable.
Edit2: someone wanted the time but I didn't know the exact but before 1:30pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6nxiv2/conversin_when_i_asked_melo_if_he_was_staying/

If true that mirrors the buyout comment Mills made today.

I missed it. What'd he say?

ChaosHamster · Post #1928 » by **ChaosHamster** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:02 am

PeoplesChamp wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:The best thing that could happen right now, is some kind of bidding war between Rockets and Cavs.. (Hard to imagine how it would look like..)

News about LeBron not being happy with what Cavs are doing is a good thing..

But yeah, I don't think Mills fooled anyone with those "We are gonna try to works things out with or without Melo"..

I don't think he was trying to fool anyone. He's not going to do a bad deal just to get rid of Melo. What would be the point?

If by bad you mean you are getting back negative value, than of course.

But if you can get at least something, (Frye, Shumpert, Osman, Felder), you do it.

There is no point in having him on the Knicks. He will win you some games, those pushing you further away in the lottery, and will take away offensive opportunities from the young guys..

ChaosHamster · Post #1929 » by **ChaosHamster** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:03 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6nxiv2/conversin_when_i_asked_melo_if_he_was_staying/

If true that mirrors the buyout comment Mills made today.

I missed it. What'd he say?

Read on Twitter

Icandoallthings · Post #1930 » by **Icandoallthings** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:11 am

Da_Mane_Man wrote:
drekwins wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:I just heard that idiot Stephen Jackson on espn say that Melo should put his foot on the Knicks' neck and force their hand with a trade to Houston.

If he tried to do that, I would just bench him the entire year. F*ck him. We don't owe him sh*t. And f*ck stephen jackson too.

Everyone talks about what little leverage the Knicks have... what leverage does Melo have? Typically, players have leverage because teams don't want to lose them for nothing. That's because most good players are on playoffs teams. For us, that doesn't even matter. In fact, Melo not playing is somewhat of a benefit. In addition, he's under contract... you can't just force a team to do a terrible deal when they don't mind letting you expire. A contract works both ways. If he doesn't want the contract, void the deal or agree to take none of the remaining money. You can't get paid by the Knicks, make them accept a crap deal and then be a cancer if they don't. That's pretty much the least professional thing I've ever heard.

Oh, I agree, but I don't think Melo gives a sh*t about professionalism at this point. He already yelled at Porzingis last year for saying good things about the triangle. You think he won't be pissed if we essentially sit him the whole year?

Melo has acted like a pro much more so than this organization has with Phil's public criticism and Mills and Dolan's incompetence. You guys are describing some kind of revenge fantasy.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1931 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:19 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
If true that mirrors the buyout comment Mills made today.

I missed it. What'd he say?

Read on Twitter

He won't admit it publicly, but it's still a possibility. But I understand, he and Perry are not giving in just yet and nor should they. Stand firm and if we can somehow come out ahead in a deal, then great. The buyout should be the last resort. But if I'm Mills/Perry, I'm still holding on to that card.

Sark · Post #1932 » by **Sark** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:26 am

ChaosHamster wrote:The best thing that could happen right now, is some kind of bidding war between Rockets and Cavs.. (Hard to imagine how it would look like..)

News about LeBron not being happy with what Cavs are doing is a good thing..

But yeah, I don't think Mills fooled anyone with those "We are gonna try to works things out with or without Melo"..

With the Rockets up for sale, there's almost no chance they are still gonna be involved in a Melo trade.

Milk · Post #1933 » by **Milk** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:47 am

Woj on SportsCenter:

Read on Twitter

Wolfgang630 · Post #1934 » by **Wolfgang630** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:32 am

Milk wrote:Woj on SportsCenter:

Read on Twitter

This is what I knew was going to happen. Why would Melo want to be with this team after everything management keeps saying. This could turn into a ANOTHER drama filled season if Melo isn't dealt.

Worst_to_First · Post #1935 » by **Worst_to_First** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:37 am

Sark wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:The best thing that could happen right now, is some kind of bidding war between Rockets and Cavs.. (Hard to imagine how it would look like..)

News about LeBron not being happy with what Cavs are doing is a good thing..

But yeah, I don't think Mills fooled anyone with those "We are gonna try to works things out with or without Melo"..

With the Rockets up for sale, there's almost no chance they are still gonna be involved in a Melo trade.

Conversely, won't the current Rockets ownership be more inclined to make a Melo trade to boost marketability?

PeoplesChamp · Post #1936 » by **PeoplesChamp** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:15 am

Milk wrote:Woj on SportsCenter:

Read on Twitter

And I want Rihanna sent to my room right now. Some things are beyond our control.

knicks9784 · Post #1937 » by **knicks9784** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:19 am

PeoplesChamp wrote:
Milk wrote:Woj on SportsCenter:

Read on Twitter

And I want Rihanna sent to my room right now. Some things are beyond our control.

well if he waves that no-trade clause in full, he gets his wish

PeoplesChamp · Post #1938 » by **PeoplesChamp** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:21 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
PeoplesChamp wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:The best thing that could happen right now, is some kind of bidding war between Rockets and Cavs.. (Hard to imagine how it would look like..)

News about LeBron not being happy with what Cavs are doing is a good thing..

But yeah, I don't think Mills fooled anyone with those "We are gonna try to works things out with or without Melo"..

I don't think he was trying to fool anyone. He's not going to do a bad deal just to get rid of Melo. What would be the point?

If by bad you mean you are getting back negative value, than of course.

But if you can get at least something, (Frye, Shumpert, Osman, Felder), you do it.

There is no point in having him on the Knicks. He will win you some games, those pushing you further away in the lottery, and will take away offensive opportunities from the young guys..

The reason why this deal hasn't happened yet is because the salaries have to match. For the Rockets that means including Ryan Anderson, for the Cavs, Kevin Love. Neither of whom interests the Knicks. And I don't blame them. If they could take back the crew you mentioned, without either of those big salaries, they'd do it. And they'd rather keep Melo another year than take on those bloated contracts. And I agree. What would be the point? Mills isn't bluffing. He's doing the right thing.

robillionaire · Post #1939 » by **robillionaire** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:27 am

Maybe Melo should go tell his new buddies to pay up. If the place he wants to be isn't willing to pay a fair price for him how's that on us

Fat Kat · Post #1940 » by **Fat Kat** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 am

robillionaire wrote:Maybe Melo should go tell his new buddies to pay up. If the place he wants to be isn't willing to pay a fair price for him how's that on us

Yep. Let the Rockets and Melo's people hammer out the details, and present us with trades until we get what we want.