Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks

[sol537]

If it's Lee + KOQ for Brown + Smart, it doesn't work due to salaries. It has to be Brown + Chrowder and then we'd have to throw in a future 1st, probably top 5 protected. The only way anything like that makes sense is if Perry & co. see something special in Brown. I think most guys here would prefer to take our chances in this upcoming draft.

[dakomish23]

New rule, notphiljackson comes up with a new dan Patrick trade and it doesn't go through and he gets banned

I said C's want Lee. That's it. I won't ever speak again on what is said to me in terms of insider NBA information because you all piss me off whenever I try and contribute.

Idk why everyone assumes Crowder would be moved the second I said that, yall know Jaylen Brown makes like a million less than Crowder?? The trade works with Jaylen and Smart - Knicks throw in a pick of some kind and we get 2 top 10 picks, they fill their void. Crowder's contract is too good..

The C's are willing to trade Smart and Brown for Lee and a pick? I'd strongly consider it depending on the protection. If it's top 10 protected, I'm down.

Smart Frank
THJ Dotson
Brown Kuz
Melo LFT
KP WHG

45 wins here we come

Seriously though, send Melo and LFT packing, win the 25-30 games this year and keep it moving.

[whocares1]

from Sam Amico

The Rockets are expected to make another major push for New York star Carmelo Anthony, despite the recent pause in talks. Anthony reportedly is making it clear he does not want to remain with the Knicks and he does not want to add anyone to his wish listbeyond the Rockets and Cleveland. Morey, it has been said, still believes the Rockets are the frontrunners.

pay up...hopefully Harden and CP3 are pushing morey to make this happen with pressure from Melo's camp.

Melo's recent videos look like a lot of small ball pick and roll shooting which makes me believes he is preparing for MDA system.

another writer who knows nothing. We all know the Rockets will make another push because Melo's team is putting it out there that he want's to be traded. However something better be coming back. If you think you are giving us pieces what does not fit what we are trying to do you are in for a dial tone. Perry and Mills made that clear that their moves will mirror what was said that day.

Wasn't he the first to report what the Knicks gave up to get Scott Perry?

[camillepd]

[quote="sol537"]Lee + KOQ for Crowder + Smart makes some sense for both teams...[/quot
I wouldn't give them KOQ in this trade. Just Lee and they give up Smart and Jaylen Brown
No need for Crowder as we are rebuilding.

[sol537]

Sam Amico has sources. Stop.

[Crunchknicks1]

lol I think lee to the bucks for Matthew and Benson could happen. Maybe lee and Thomas to the bucks for Benson and Matthew they both 26 and the bucks trying to trade Benson. Plus the bucks want Rose. I can see a trade like that happening

[VirginiaKnickFan]

If it's Lee + KOQ for Brown + Smart, it doesn't work due to salaries. It has to be Brown + Chrowder and then we'd have to throw in a future 1st, probably top 5 protected. The only way anything like that makes sense is if Perry & co. see something special in Brown. I think most guys here would prefer to take our chances in this upcoming draft.

The draft for sure.

[King of Canada]

People in here taking out their frustrations on Not Phil, stop bashing the dude, even if he was making shiz up it's better than most of the other BS scenarios posted on here. Get Melo traded for picks and a young piece so we can all have our sanity back.

I agree. Whether or not he has a real source (and who knows, he might), his posts are no different than 90% of the media tweets out there. It's summer, we need something to pass the time.

[NoseBleeds]

Melo going to the rockets would increase the value of the sale for the team. A team on paper heading for the conference finals at least and probably a top 2 popular team who the media will all in on.

[newyorker4ever]

Screw the Celtics talk. It isn't happening. Let's get back to Melo.

It would be amazing if they could acquire Swanigan from Portland for Melo in a package.

I could see Boston wanting C.Lee and actually see him as a good fit for them and something they don't really have right now after trading A.Bradley.

[Blockwatcher]

I just can't see any trade where we don't get back a 3 year salary

[F N 11]

from Sam Amico



pay up...hopefully Harden and CP3 are pushing morey to make this happen with pressure from Melo's camp.

Melo's recent videos look like a lot of small ball pick and roll shooting which makes me believes he is preparing for MDA system.

another writer who knows nothing. We all know the Rockets will make another push because Melo's team is putting it out there that he want's to be traded. However something better be coming back. If you think you are giving us pieces what does not fit what we are trying to do you are in for a dial tone. Perry and Mills made that clear that their moves will mirror what was said that day.

Wasn't he the first to report what the Knicks gave up to get Scott Perry?

IDK but it's clearly a speculation article. Anyone here can write an article and say the Rockets are expected to make another hard push. No duhhhhhhh.

[F N 11]

I got sources too!!

[newyorker4ever]

Sometimes you have to move a piece that is a little better than the piece you get back.

Who is the C's backup SG?
Who is the C's backup C?

I get the C's could, I guess, roll with some combination of Isiah Thomas, Smart, Haywood and Brown at PG, SG - meaning Isiah can see a bit of time at SG and maybe Brown. Brown seems to lack enough of an outside shot at SG right now though. I'm acknowledging they aren't screwed, but they seem a SG short. Meanwhile they have Tatum (true SF) Brown (SF with a bit of SG), and even Haywood I thought was more of a SF then SG, but I'm assuming they'll play him at SG as starter. So Brown is the 3rd string SF below Crowder?

Back up C's are Zeller and Zizic? Good luck with that. Zizic may surprise as WHG did, but I notice the Knicks didn't hand the keys to WHG to start the season and I doubt the C's do that for Zizic either.

I have to agree. The piece you trade may be better individually but the pieces you get back are better for your team overall. At the end of the day its all about improving your team, especially if you have aspirations for a title and you just went big in free agency.

I get Crowder is a good 3&D player. I get that. Let's not act like he's one of the only ones in the league. I think Knick fans are so starved for seeing a team that actually gets after it on D (due in large part to the coaching) and they see Crowder and Smart and nearly sh*t their pants in shock and awe. Crowder is a hustle 2nd round pick who worked hard and panned out. Smart is an overdrafted PG who honestly was a bit of a mistake by Ainge. I get these guys would play good defense anywhere.

Let's not assume because CLee is a Knick, or has been traded a lot, he's junk. He tends to move around but to good teams. Teams recognize he's a do it all guard who fits any system you want to run and will run it right, with good defense. He makes 12 million a year, which is now cheap and was a decent contract the moment it was signed. KOQ is a proven, serviceable C who rebounds, isn't a stiff scoring wise and can pass above average. He's also cheap as hell and only on a teams cap, for what, 2 more years?

Yeah, Knicks get the better of this deal, but not by a mile. Ok, I'll got with CLee and KOQ for Crowder and whatever is needed to get to make the salaries match.

Boston needs to get a SG. Maybe it's not Lee, but it will be somewhere. I bet Crowder or Smart get dealt. I mean, the Celts would still be 2.5 deep at SF with all sorts of #1 picks coming up, so it's not like they make this deal but are handcuffed from more deals next year, or that Crowder and Smart are the missing pieces that could have gotten them Anthony Davis.

A good trade for both sides.

Celtics get--KOQ and C.Lee

Knicks get--J.Crowder and T.Rozier

We get a PG and SF which are both needed especially if we do end up trading Melo.

[god shammgod]

i just wonder why dan patrick cares about the knicks so much

[SelbyCobra]

lol I think lee to the bucks for Matthew and Benson could happen. Maybe lee and Thomas to the bucks for Benson and Matthew they both 26 and the bucks trying to trade Benson. Plus the bucks want Rose. I can see a trade like that happening

[mpharris36]

i just wonder why dan patrick cares about the knicks so much

[NewYorkPride85]

I have to agree. The piece you trade may be better individually but the pieces you get back are better for your team overall. At the end of the day its all about improving your team, especially if you have aspirations for a title and you just went big in free agency.

I get Crowder is a good 3&D player. I get that. Let's not act like he's one of the only ones in the league. I think Knick fans are so starved for seeing a team that actually gets after it on D (due in large part to the coaching) and they see Crowder and Smart and nearly sh*t their pants in shock and awe. Crowder is a hustle 2nd round pick who worked hard and panned out. Smart is an overdrafted PG who honestly was a bit of a mistake by Ainge. I get these guys would play good defense anywhere.

Let's not assume because CLee is a Knick, or has been traded a lot, he's junk. He tends to move around but to good teams. Teams recognize he's a do it all guard who fits any system you want to run and will run it right, with good defense. He makes 12 million a year, which is now cheap and was a decent contract the moment it was signed. KOQ is a proven, serviceable C who rebounds, isn't a stiff scoring wise and can pass above average. He's also cheap as hell and only on a teams cap, for what, 2 more years?

Yeah, Knicks get the better of this deal, but not by a mile. Ok, I'll got with CLee and KOQ for Crowder and whatever is needed to get to make the salaries match.

Boston needs to get a SG. Maybe it's not Lee, but it will be somewhere. I bet Crowder or Smart get dealt. I mean, the Celts would still be 2.5 deep at SF with all sorts of #1 picks coming up, so it's not like they make this deal but are handcuffed from more deals next year, or that Crowder and Smart are the missing pieces that could have gotten them Anthony Davis.

A good trade for both sides.

Celtics get--KOQ and C.Lee

Knicks get--J.Crowder and T.Rozier

We get a PG and SF which are both needed especially if we do end up trading Melo.

Problem is that we need need to trade Melo first and see what our return would be before we trade Lee unless we package them together. Much easier to move Lee so it would make sense to trade Melo first and then see what we still need and trade Lee for what we need.

Still wouldn't trade him since we need veteran leadership which we obviously are in short supply.

[King of Canada]

i just wonder why dan patrick cares about the knicks so much

I had to google him. No idea who he is.

[bigfnjoe96]

i just wonder why dan patrick cares about the knicks so much