Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks

[King of Canada]

Nba will have new Nike uniforms next year. I saw some Knicks ones I thought it was fake. They look sick.

link?

I couldn't find any, but there are a thousand fake mock ups

[JBreezeNY]

I don't know why Melo won't accept a trade to a different team. He can opt out after this season and play wherever he wants, what difference does one more season make? The Rockets aren't beating the Warriors with him on the team. And if you guys hold firm his choice is to either completely waste this entire season playing on a team that isn't looking to win (at the moment) OR he can accept a trade to half a dozen other teams that will be competing in the playoffs and likely have interest in him (Wizards, Pelicans, Blazers, Hornets, Bucks, Jazz).

The man is a human at the end of the day and only the Rockets/Cavs make sense to go. He may not win a title but the Rockets are a championship contender if he goes there, he would be a missing piece. Those other teams you mentioned are just playoff contenders.

That's the thing tho.. A team like the Blazers I feel Melo makes much more of an impact on than the Rockets. He really doesn't solve any needs for the Rockets. Its not a great fit honestly basketball wise. Melo just wants to play with his friends

Impact?

You mean a bigger role? Yea

Melo on the Rockets = Firepower from every direction.

You can't double Harden or CP3 or Melo, it's too much offense. Chris Paul being the leader that he is will also force Harden & Melo to have better defensive tendencies compared to Melo going to Portland. Rockets as constructed are missing a piece of offense to put them over the top, that is Melo to a T.

And how is it not a great fit basketball wise?

Paul takes the ball out of Harden's hands, Harden play off ball without a problem, Melo can play off ball without a problem & doesn't need constant touches. Playing with two players that love to move the ball & actually are his friends will make him move the hall as well.

They can experiment with PnR's utilizing Paul & Melo or Harden & Melo, Melo can use an inside out game with Paul/Harden, it's a lot of offensive possibilities.

[F N 11]

Nba will have new Nike uniforms next year. I saw some Knicks ones I thought it was fake. They look sick.

link?

Just found out it was a graphic designer. Not official but not bad.



Hornets will be the only team with the jumpman logo.







Somebody get this man a job lol

[louieOrr]

The man is a human at the end of the day and only the Rockets/Cavs make sense to go. He may not win a title but the Rockets are a championship contender if he goes there, he would be a missing piece. Those other teams you mentioned are just playoff contenders.

No, he is a delusional human who thinks he can cherry pick a team and we would trade him at our expense. It makes sense for him to work with us to find a solution that is mutually beneficial. If we have no benefit in moving him to HOU or CLE then it makes NO sense for him to think we would do so. He has a NTC in his contract but his contract is still with us. He signed it and he gets his checks on time. He doesn't get to decide if he's going to come back. He can decide on his destination, and what this upcoming season or two is going to be like for him.

You can say what you want about his playing skills, but he is certainly not delusional. Just like we put pressure on him to make him want to waive his NTC, he's free to put pressure back on us to trade him to a team he wants or to buy him out. We don't have to do either. When Melo insisted on the NTC, he did that because he wanted to control his future. He still wants to do that, but he is not at all delusional He is trying to do the best he can for himself.

Fair enough, maybe delusional is harsh. But certainly not working with us thus far. Looking for an express ticket to a Championship contender doesn't seem realistic to me (where I got the whole delusional thing). I think you and I agreed yesterday he has his last big payday to keep in mind. IMO he should be going to the most competitive situation he can. He has a more realistic chance of that happening if he expands his list of approved teams. HOU and CLE have nothing for us

Edit : I also want to add that Phil is gone. Thats who put the pressure on him. The team has extended an olive branch to him if he should like to stay.

[DaGawd]

The man is a human at the end of the day and only the Rockets/Cavs make sense to go. He may not win a title but the Rockets are a championship contender if he goes there, he would be a missing piece. Those other teams you mentioned are just playoff contenders.

That's the thing tho.. A team like the Blazers I feel Melo makes much more of an impact on than the Rockets. He really doesn't solve any needs for the Rockets. Its not a great fit honestly basketball wise. Melo just wants to play with his friends

Impact?

You mean a bigger role? Yea

Melo on the Rockets = Firepower from every direction.

You can't double Harden or CP3 or Melo, it's too much offense. Chris Paul being the leader that he is will also force Harden & Melo to have better defensive tendencies compared to Melo going to Portland. Rockets as constructed are missing a piece of offense to put them over the top, that is Melo to a T.

And how is it not a great fit basketball wise?

Paul takes the ball out of Harden's hands, Harden play off ball without a problem, Melo can play off ball without a problem & doesn't need constant touches. Playing with two players that love to move the ball & actually are his friends will make him move the hall as well.

They can experiment with PnR's utilizing Paul & Melo or Harden & Melo, Melo can use an inside out game with Paul/Harden, it's a lot of offensive possibilities.

I'm not so sure Harden can play off ball without a problem considering he's pretty much always been the primary ball handler on the Rockets.. In OKC coming off the bench he was always the primary ball handler then too whenever West or KD were on the bench.. Hardens game becomes much more scaled back playing off ball.. Not sure if that's a great thing. Yeah Melo has shown a ability to play off ball in Olympic play but the NBA not so much. He needs his fai share of isos per game

[moocow007]

Most of you guys would be ok if you are lambasted by others who think you are a piece of **** even though you know you aren't? <-- rhetorical question cause you wouldn't be ok with it since whenever I get on any of you for it, you go nuts.

So...why would you be ok with it if the shoe is on the other foot? Because when you are blasting someone else you're absolutely right but when someone is blasting you they are absolutely wrong?

No one has any idea what he's thinking or not thinking...unless you are related to Nostradamus or Miss Cleo.

He needs to be moved. That's sheer logic. The rest of this hate makes zero sense since it can easily be flipped and is based on guessing and emotions and there's really no point for that.

[BKlutch]

No, he is a delusional human who thinks he can cherry pick a team and we would trade him at our expense. It makes sense for him to work with us to find a solution that is mutually beneficial. If we have no benefit in moving him to HOU or CLE then it makes NO sense for him to think we would do so. He has a NTC in his contract but his contract is still with us. He signed it and he gets his checks on time. He doesn't get to decide if he's going to come back. He can decide on his destination, and what this upcoming season or two is going to be like for him.

You can say what you want about his playing skills, but he is certainly not delusional. Just like we put pressure on him to make him want to waive his NTC, he's free to put pressure back on us to trade him to a team he wants or to buy him out. We don't have to do either. When Melo insisted on the NTC, he did that because he wanted to control his future. He still wants to do that, but he is not at all delusional He is trying to do the best he can for himself.

Fair enough, maybe delusional is harsh. But certainly not working with us thus far. Looking for an express ticket to a Championship contender doesn't seem realistic to me (where I got the whole delusional thing). I think you and I agreed yesterday he has his last big payday to keep in mind. IMO he should be going to the most competitive situation he can. He has a more realistic chance of that happening if he expands his list of approved teams. HOU and CLE have nothing for us

Edit : I also want to add that Phil is gone. Thats who put the pressure on him. The team has extended an olive branch to him if he should like to stay.

I think this is right - he is well within his normal mind, but we don't need to like how he's acting. In fact, there was a time when Phil was dissing him that he got a lot of sympathy, even from those who wanted him gone, because he has been far too good a player to be treated disrespectfully. Now, he can try as much as he likes to get what he wants for himself, but the number of fans who support him here is dwindling.

[NOOB77]

So right now Melo is saying he will play for the Rockets - Cavs or Knicks next season. I don't see all the sudden he is going to open that list up to a bunch of teams that he doesn't want to play for. Getting the Rockets to move Gordon is our best chance at something decent in this entire thing or Melo will be on the club next year playing 30 or so minutes a game.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I don't care if we just went on a run like the Russell Celtics. I'm never again going to be ok with sending out an unprotected pick. Even if it's just top 5.

calculated risk is worth it sometimes. boston should be looking to make some themselves right now.

CLE, whom everyone knew as heading to the Finals, was able to protect the pick they sent out for Korver.

NOP was able to protect the pick they sent for DMC.

I think we can get away with protecting a pick for Smart and/or Brown.

no disagreement there

[NOOB77]

Why would we ever give up a first round pick for Smart?

[kane2021]

I don't know why Melo won't accept a trade to a different team. He can opt out after this season and play wherever he wants, what difference does one more season make? The Rockets aren't beating the Warriors with him on the team. And if you guys hold firm his choice is to either completely waste this entire season playing on a team that isn't looking to win (at the moment) OR he can accept a trade to half a dozen other teams that will be competing in the playoffs and likely have interest in him (Wizards, Pelicans, Blazers, Hornets, Bucks, Jazz).

It seems obvious that he's mostly interested in playing with friends. Seeing the only constant in his wish list is teams with James or cp3.

Also his only real shot at another sizable contract is being traded to a team he wants to play for. So they'll have bird rights to go over cap. If he opts out to sign as a free agent he's going to have to settle for the mle or a lesser team with more cap space.

Melo will want his cake and eat it too. And that's fine I don't blame him. But that's why he's going to push to be traded. It will cost him big bucks if he has to wait and go the free agent route. That's another reason why the Knicks stepping back on trade talks is a smart move. It's everyone else who stands to lose out on something here.


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[sol537]

I don't know why Melo won't accept a trade to a different team. He can opt out after this season and play wherever he wants, what difference does one more season make? The Rockets aren't beating the Warriors with him on the team. And if you guys hold firm his choice is to either completely waste this entire season playing on a team that isn't looking to win (at the moment) OR he can accept a trade to half a dozen other teams that will be competing in the playoffs and likely have interest in him (Wizards, Pelicans, Blazers, Hornets, Bucks, Jazz).

It seems obvious that he's mostly interested in playing with friends. Seeing the only constant in his wish list is teams with James or cp3.

Also his only real shot at another sizable contract is being traded to a team he wants to play for. So they'll have bird rights to go over cap. If he opts out to sign as a free agent he's going to have to settle for the mle or a lesser team with more cap space.

Melo will want his cake and eat it too. And that's fine I don't blame him. But that's why he's going to push to be traded. It will cost him big bucks if he has to wait and go the free agent route. That's another reason why the Knicks stepping back on trade talks is a smart move. It's everyone else who stands to lose out on something here.


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The voice of reason. Thank you.

[fatalogic]

Nba will have new Nike uniforms next year. I saw some Knicks ones I thought it was fake. They look sick.

link?

Just found out it was a graphic designer. Not official but not bad.



Hornets will be the only team with the jumpman logo.

Somebody get this man a job lol

I just want a black Knicks jersey please.

[3toheadmelo]

man take those **** logos off the uniforms

i dont want this to turn into soccer

[seren]

Melo to Portland would actually be good for all sides. Portland would be interested in dumping some big contracts. In return, we can ask for a sizeable return in terms of picks. Melo would benefit from playing with a young backcourt that can score and a big man who would demand double teams. Since the whole team is not playing D, he wouldn't have to either.

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[Nazrmohamed]

The man is a human at the end of the day and only the Rockets/Cavs make sense to go. He may not win a title but the Rockets are a championship contender if he goes there, he would be a missing piece. Those other teams you mentioned are just playoff contenders.

That's the thing tho.. A team like the Blazers I feel Melo makes much more of an impact on than the Rockets. He really doesn't solve any needs for the Rockets. Its not a great fit honestly basketball wise. Melo just wants to play with his friends

Impact?

You mean a bigger role? Yea

Melo on the Rockets = Firepower from every direction.

You can't double Harden or CP3 or Melo, it's too much offense. Chris Paul being the leader that he is will also force Harden & Melo to have better defensive tendencies compared to Melo going to Portland. Rockets as constructed are missing a piece of offense to put them over the top, that is Melo to a T.

And how is it not a great fit basketball wise?

Paul takes the ball out of Harden's hands, Harden play off ball without a problem, Melo can play off ball without a problem & doesn't need constant touches. Playing with two players that love to move the ball & actually are his friends will make him move the hall as well.

They can experiment with PnR's utilizing Paul & Melo or Harden & Melo, Melo can use an inside out game with Paul/Harden, it's a lot of offensive possibilities.

My god, why can't the Knicks just hire this guy to design thier jersey. In love with the black and is the difference between the two whitish jerseys a slight pearl? Im in love

[BKlutch]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/carmelo-anthony-reportedly-not-interested-in-joining-trail-blazers-at-this-point/

Carmelo Anthony reportedly not interested in joining Trail Blazers at this point

With nothing finalized on the Carmelo Anthony trade front, the Portland Trail Blazers reportedly tried to jump right into the fray in recent days.

The Blazers are reportedly one of the teams the Rockets and Knicks have recruited to try and facilitate a deal to send Carmelo to the Rockets. Instead, the Blazers were thinking that rather help get that deal done, they could trade for the All-Star forward themselves, as they apparently were hopeful he would add them to the list of teams he would waive his no-trade clause for. The list that currently still has just two teams: the Rockets and Cavaliers.

Unfortunately for Portland, that doesn't appear to be in Melo's plans, despite C.J. McCollum's best attempts on Instagram. On Monday afternoon, ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski was on The Jump, and said that joining the Trail Blazers is not something Carmelo is interested in right now.

as transcribed by KGW.com:

"Portland's players are reaching out to Melo. Portland would love to get involved in this and become a team that Melo would consider. ... They would like for Carmelo to waive his no-trade and go to Portland, but right now, that's not something Melo's considering."

"Sources tell me New York and Houston tried to pull Portland into a three-way, potentially a four-way deal. Portland does not have any interest in helping Houston, a conference rival, get Carmelo Anthony."

This is really not surprising at all. While Portland has some talented young players, it isn't in a position to contend for a title, which is really what Carmelo is looking for in wherever he plays next.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Melo to Portland would actually be good for all sides. Portland would be interested in dumping some big contracts. In return, we can ask for a sizeable return in terms of picks. Melo would benefit from playing with a young backcourt that can score and a big man who would demand double teams. Since the whole team is not playing D, he wouldn't have to either.

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He wants to go to a team that at least makes it to the conference finals.

[newyorker4ever]

Is Gaines' job safe? If not then i hope Rambis isn't safe either.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/18/the-black-inspiration-and-pioneer-behind-knicks-new-gm/

Perry has the “freedom’’ to reevaluate the Knicks front-office staff, but it is already one of the most diverse in the NBA. Personnel men Allan Houston, also the Westchester GM, Mark Hughes, Clarence Gaines Jr., Walker Russell and Makhtar Ndiaye are black.
Because Gaines, the former Bulls scout, is so closely tied to departed Phil Jackson and sought players only adaptable to the triangle, his situation seems most uncertain. An option for Perry could be to bring in George David to run the college-scouting department. David worked for more than 10 years with Perry in Detroit and is now a player recruiter for the Wasserman Agency.

“I feel really good about a lot of the people we have working for us,’’ Mills said Monday. “But we also know there’s room for us to grow and get better if we want to be a first-class organization, and Scott will have the freedom to meet with everyone in our organization. Where he sees there’s opportunities to bring new people into the organization, he has the flexibility to do that, and we’ll work as a tandem in making sure that we have a first-class operation.”

[F N 11]

Y'all see Woj bomb about negotiations could run through camp. For the love of God please no. We don't need this distraction.