Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks

[NBA Fan 1234]

You're acting as if the Knicks have won with Melo. If they won any time in the last 3 years, you may have a case. Melo isn't a winner anymore. There's no problem with sending an old diminished player to the bench. 33 for a non athletic guy is old. It's time.

I don't think he is acting that way at all. He's simply stating facts. The Knicks gave Melo the NTC to use at his discretion. Winning has nothing to do with it. Punishing someone because you can't get your way is the way 5 year olds think. He's under no obligation to waive his NTC, just like the Knicks are under no obligation to play him.

Wait, how is it punishing? The Knicks are under no obligation to waive their NTC if there's not a beneficial deal. He's under contract. What's the discussion here? It's not punishment...

Benching someone because he's unwilling to waive his NTC sounds like a punishment to me. I completely agree the Knicks don't have to agree to any deal if they don't want to (I doubt you remember, but my sig once said "only trade Melo in a FAIR deal"), but the two sides are at a stand-still. Melo is under contract and he'll have to accept that if he's in NY or Houston, but saying we should simply bench him because he's not waiving the NTC is asinine IMO - that's my point.

[NOOB77]

The big question is what has more value....

Melo at 2 years 54 million
or
Anderson at 3 years 60 million with a couple of first rounders

[Jalen Bluntson]

20 pages and no actual deal to discuss. On top of how many previous pages of fan tweets and rumor twats.

There is no deal to discuss. There is no rush to make a trade. If Morey wants him bad enough...we will know soon enough.

Cleveland is staying out of it. Very odd.

Melo may be stuck playing a limited role this season. Sucks for him.

I really think Cleveland isn't doing much of anything because they know LBJ isnt coming back. That is why no ring chasers are signing there. People like Jamal Crawford are going other places. They are basically doing nothing. Billups turnd it down. ect

They have no GM. I forgot that too.

I still think Melo and Paul and LeBron go to LAL next year. Wade too.

10 mil per each. LOL Wade gets vet mini.

[sushibear]

The big question is what has more value....

Melo at 2 years 54 million
or
Anderson at 3 years 60 million with a couple of first rounders

Id do it. a couple first rounders heck yeah, besides anderson doesnt have an NTC so we can actually trade/move that scrub. it aint my money and we aint competing for a title anytime soon, do it.

[NBA Fan 1234]

The big question is what has more value....

Melo at 2 years 54 million
or
Anderson at 3 years 60 million with a couple of first rounders

Id do it. a couple first rounds heck yeah, besides anderson doesnt have an NTC so we can actually trade/move that scrub. it aint my money and we aint competing for a title anytime soon, do it.

So you'd acquire someone to get the first round picks and then trade him using those first round picks (because that's what it will take, at the least)? Fantastic logic there. Wait...you want to get rid of Melo at all costs...I get it now. Also, if teams were lining up to take Anderson for 2 firsts (or if Houston was even offering 2 firsts to get rid of that horrid contract), a deal probably would have already been done.

[Wolfgang630]

Will Melo show up to play if he doesn't get traded?

[BadNewsBarnes]

Will Melo show up to play if he doesn't get traded?

Does it matter? If he doesn't we tank. If he does and hogs the ball we tank.

[louieOrr]

I don't see whats wrong with a Frye, Love str8 up for Melo

Love is 28 and does not have a no trade clause. He has value and would be an asset. We can get the picks we seek with him.
Fry expires after this year and would surely be a great mentor to our youth.

If my calculations are correct which they very well might not be

Melo Outgoing with trade kicker 30,180.324

Love and Frye incoming 30,063.262

Carmelo is more on the level Lebron needs in clutch playoff moments. They could be incredible together.

Lebron may want to go all in and request this happens

[Reign23]

Will Melo show up to play if he doesn't get traded?

of course he does...

[Wolfgang630]

Will Melo show up to play if he doesn't get traded?

of course he does...

I'm sorry you know everything

[drekwins]

I don't think he is acting that way at all. He's simply stating facts. The Knicks gave Melo the NTC to use at his discretion. Winning has nothing to do with it. Punishing someone because you can't get your way is the way 5 year olds think. He's under no obligation to waive his NTC, just like the Knicks are under no obligation to play him.

Wait, how is it punishing? The Knicks are under no obligation to waive their NTC if there's not a beneficial deal. He's under contract. What's the discussion here? It's not punishment...

Benching someone because he's unwilling to waive his NTC sounds like a punishment to me. I completely agree the Knicks don't have to agree to any deal if they don't want to (I doubt you remember, but my sig once said "only trade Melo in a FAIR deal"), but the two sides are at a stand-still. Melo is under contract and he'll have to accept that if he's in NY or Houston, but saying we should simply bench him because he's not waiving the NTC is asinine IMO - that's my point.

I'm not saying don't play him because of his NTC. That has nothing to do with it. He's just a 4. KPs a 4. Were a team focusing on defense, youth, development and ball movement on offense. There are very justifiable reasons that Melo is better suited to come off the bench other than punishment. 6th man roles are highly respected and coveted... but Carmelo's too good for it? Sounds ridiculous to me.

Also, PS, a NTC doesn't mean that you get to pick where you play lol It just means that you don't have to uproot your family if you don't want to. A NTC never has been used to force a trade lol Its intent is to stop a trade. If the Knicks don't see a beneficial deal...they don't have to trade him for crap. That, again, is not punishment.

[louieOrr]

Kyrie , Melo, Lebron, Korver ,Thompson JR, Shump is pretty bad azz

[sushibear]

Will Melo show up to play if he doesn't get traded?

[Isiahthomass]

Will Melo show up to play if he doesn't get traded?

If he doesn't, he'll get fined and and possibly suspended without pay, just like Rose did when he disappeared. He has to.

[NOOB77]

I don't see whats wrong with a Frye, Love str8 up for Melo

Love is 28 and does not have a no trade clause. He has value and would be an asset. We can get the picks we seek with him.
Fry expires after this year and would surely be a great mentor to our youth.

If my calculations are correct which they very well might not be

Melo Outgoing with trade kicker 30,180.324

Love and Frye incoming 30,063.262

Carmelo is more on the level Lebron needs in clutch playoff moments. They could be incredible together.

Lebron may want to go all in and request this happens

Love has more value that Melo and could get more back. If they trade Love for Melo they would need more than just Melo back in a deal.

[HOF19]

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4 Comments
By Kurt HelinJul 18, 2017, 5:45 PM EDT

[NBA Fan 1234]

Wait, how is it punishing? The Knicks are under no obligation to waive their NTC if there's not a beneficial deal. He's under contract. What's the discussion here? It's not punishment...

Benching someone because he's unwilling to waive his NTC sounds like a punishment to me. I completely agree the Knicks don't have to agree to any deal if they don't want to (I doubt you remember, but my sig once said "only trade Melo in a FAIR deal"), but the two sides are at a stand-still. Melo is under contract and he'll have to accept that if he's in NY or Houston, but saying we should simply bench him because he's not waiving the NTC is asinine IMO - that's my point.

I'm not saying don't play him. He's just a 4. KPs a 4. Were a team focusing on defense, youth, development and ball movement on offense. There are very justifiable reasons that Melo is better suited to come off the bench other than punishment. 6th man roles are highly respected and coveted... but Carmelo's too good for it? Sounds ridiculous to me.

Also, PS, a NTC doesn't mean that you get to pick where you play lol It just means that you don't have to uproot your family if you don't want to. A NTC never has been used to force a trade lol Its intent is to stop a trade. If the Knicks don't see a beneficial deal...they don't have to trade him for crap. That, again, is not punishment.

In all likelihood, KP isn't starting at the 4 because he'll be next to Willy, leaving an opening at the 3. Playing Melo there will help ease Frank into the NBA as well (the same way it did KP) because he could focus on the things he does well and pick his spots - I personally want him to start because we didn't get Rondo (who IMO would have been the perfect coach for him) and because I don't see us making a trade for someone who should start over him, so I'm all for throwing him in to the wolves. Melo's minutes can be split between the 3 (when he starts) and the 3/4 when he plays with the bench unit because, truthfully, we have nobody who can play the 3 really.

I'm also well aware of what a NTC is, thanks. What it does mean is that he can choose his destination - ie, stopping a trade. I never said the Knicks need to trade him for crap. Do you not read my posts? I even said above what my old sig used to say (here it is again) - only trade Melo in a FAIR deal. That means one that doesn't give us back crap contracts and allow us to get an asset or two in the deal. Did I really have to explain that?

I never said he's too good to come off the bench, I said benching him because he's not waiting his NTC (which what some here want) is beyond stupid. HUGE difference. Quit putting words in my mouth.

[RiseOfTheEmpire]

"...............and then he said, how about Ryan Anderson and a second round pick?"

[sushibear]

The big question is what has more value....

Melo at 2 years 54 million
or
Anderson at 3 years 60 million with a couple of first rounders

Id do it. a couple first rounds heck yeah, besides anderson doesnt have an NTC so we can actually trade/move that scrub. it aint my money and we aint competing for a title anytime soon, do it.

So you'd acquire someone to get the first round picks and then trade him using those first round picks (because that's what it will take, at the least)? Fantastic logic there. Wait...you want to get rid of Melo at all costs...I get it now. Also, if teams were lining up to take Anderson for 2 firsts (or if Houston was even offering 2 firsts to get rid of that horrid contract), a deal probably would have already been done.

why you mad though? its something i would do, im sure everyone on here has a different approach on it.

Spoiler:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1575104

[NBA Fan 1234]

Id do it. a couple first rounds heck yeah, besides anderson doesnt have an NTC so we can actually trade/move that scrub. it aint my money and we aint competing for a title anytime soon, do it.

So you'd acquire someone to get the first round picks and then trade him using those first round picks (because that's what it will take, at the least)? Fantastic logic there. Wait...you want to get rid of Melo at all costs...I get it now. Also, if teams were lining up to take Anderson for 2 firsts (or if Houston was even offering 2 firsts to get rid of that horrid contract), a deal probably would have already been done.

why you mad though? its something i would do, im sure everyone on here has a different approach on it.

Spoiler:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1575104

I'm not mad, though. I simply don't understand the thinking of anyone who agrees with my quote that you just posted aside from one filled with pure disdain. That's all.

Thanks for the link.