bigfoot wrote:n4th4n4 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:
We tried. His team could give him a boatload more money, and so he stayed. Pulling the meeting with Milsap and embracing the tank was and is the right move.
My biggest problem with all of these "Never Tankers" is that they never manage to propose an alternative strategy that would be any better.
Hey dingleberry ... we do! It's called trades and free agency. You have to do all three where as pro-tankers
1) only want to lose to get a top pick
2) don't want free agents because that might ruin our chances of losing and getting a top pick
3) don't want to make trades because the players are too old and don't fit our young core and might cause us to win and lose out on a top pic
4) only want young players because older players might make us win and we will lose out on a top pick.
The problem with pro tankers is it is a one way strategy ... lose to get a good pick which only has a 30% chance of panning out. Right now it is not looking good with Bender or Chriss and Booker is a one way player until he proves otherwise.
Hey dingleberry,
As maybe the biggest pro tanker here, I have never said any of this. Let me re-write that for you.
Pro-tankers want:
1. To play the youngsters, even though it nearly guarantees losing, because it not only helps them develop for the future but also adds more talent via losing games.
2. Don't want free agents who are old and would get in the way of the youngster's PT, thus thwarting #1 with no future benefit.
3. Only want trades that make sense. Getting guys who will be 38 by the time the rest of the team is good makes no sense. Also, don't want trades for guys who are impending FA's that we could have simply signed in FA the following year, all while possibly losing said guy for nothing in the offseason. Essentially, we don't want to be the current Indiana Pacers, who went crazy in FA and via trade to add Al Jefferson, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis, etc. (all moves that the non-tankers would applaud) to make the playoffs with no hope of doing more and then watch their franchise player walk out the door with little to no future assets remaining.
4. Not really true. It's mostly about the points stated in #2--getting in the way of young guy's PT, which hinders development. Winning additional games when we aren't making the playoffs anyways also is a part of it. We already have Dudley and Chandler and can always get an old guy like Ronnie Price for the vet minimum, who wouldn't threaten for PT. Those are fine moves. We have already made them though. We have enough vets to pair with the youngsters.
