Way Too Early All-Rookie Teams Predictions

[The_Hater]

My first team prediction consists of players who are going to average 30+ minutes by considering the depth charts of respective teams.

1st Team
Simmons
Kennard (it seems like they are planning to start Bradley/Kennard together, if so I expect 15ppg season for a playoff team)
DSJ
Ball
Fultz


2nd Team
Justin Jackson (will get minutes since ready to contribute with his polished two-way game)
Fox (probably will start the season at the bench, but still do not expect he averages less than 24 mpg)
Josh Jackson (I feel like he's not going to average more than 10-12ppg as a starter on a bad team)
Collins (he would be great duo with Schroeder, but they bring Ilyasova and Muscala back for the same spot)
Markkanen (will put up good ppg with bad percentages on a bad team)

[url]Honorable mention:[/url]
Isaac (He didn't contribute much in college, so can he do it in nba from year one?)
Tatum (Hayward and Crowder! can he find minutes at four spot with his current frame?)

I'm a big Kennard fan and hope he can make an all-rookie team but I have no idea where this comes from. Bradley/Jackson will be our starting guards.

I assumed that he's talking about them starting on the wing together. Who's the alternative? Jefferson maybe?

[MotownMadness]

My first team prediction consists of players who are going to average 30+ minutes by considering the depth charts of respective teams.

1st Team
Simmons
Kennard (it seems like they are planning to start Bradley/Kennard together, if so I expect 15ppg season for a playoff team)
DSJ
Ball
Fultz


2nd Team
Justin Jackson (will get minutes since ready to contribute with his polished two-way game)
Fox (probably will start the season at the bench, but still do not expect he averages less than 24 mpg)
Josh Jackson (I feel like he's not going to average more than 10-12ppg as a starter on a bad team)
Collins (he would be great duo with Schroeder, but they bring Ilyasova and Muscala back for the same spot)
Markkanen (will put up good ppg with bad percentages on a bad team)

[url]Honorable mention:[/url]
Isaac (He didn't contribute much in college, so can he do it in nba from year one?)
Tatum (Hayward and Crowder! can he find minutes at four spot with his current frame?)

I'm a big Kennard fan and hope he can make an all-rookie team but I have no idea where this comes from. Bradley/Jackson will be our starting guards.

I assumed that he's talking about them starting on the wing together. Who's the alternative? Jefferson maybe?

There's zero chance Kennard starts as that's just beyond silly. Even if we are shopping Reggie it's not to let our rookie SG take his place lol. It will look like this

Reggie/Ish/Galloway
Bradley/Kennard/Galloway
Harris/Johnson/Bullock
Leuer/Ellenson
Drummond/Boban/Moreland

With Johnson interchangeable at the 2 and 3, Harris interchangeable at the 3 and 4, Leuer interchangeable at 4 and 5

[The_Hater]

I'm a big Kennard fan and hope he can make an all-rookie team but I have no idea where this comes from. Bradley/Jackson will be our starting guards.

I assumed that he's talking about them starting on the wing together. Who's the alternative? Jefferson maybe?

There's zero chance Kennard starts as that's just beyond silly. Even if we are shopping Reggie it's not to let our rookie SG take his place lol. It will look like this

Reggie/Ish/Galloway
Bradley/Kennard/Galloway
Harris/Johnson/Bullock
Leuer/Ellenson
Drummond/Boban/Moreland

With Johnson interchangeable at the 2 and 3, Harris interchangeable at the 3 and 4, Leuer interchangeable at 4 and 3

Zero chance that the best shooter on the roster starts this season? Yet Leuer and his defensive issues might? And thst pushes Harris to his weaker position of SF?

Never say never. Check back with me in October.

[Patsfan1081]

First team
Smith Jr.(Roy)
Ball
Simmons
Tatum (He'll play himself into starting lineup with Hayward at the two)
Swanigan (Biggest surprise/best story)

Second team
Fultz
Fox
Monk
Jackson
Kuzma

[MotownMadness]

I assumed that he's talking about them starting on the wing together. Who's the alternative? Jefferson maybe?

There's zero chance Kennard starts as that's just beyond silly. Even if we are shopping Reggie it's not to let our rookie SG take his place lol. It will look like this

Reggie/Ish/Galloway
Bradley/Kennard/Galloway
Harris/Johnson/Bullock
Leuer/Ellenson
Drummond/Boban/Moreland

With Johnson interchangeable at the 2 and 3, Harris interchangeable at the 3 and 4, Leuer interchangeable at 4 and 3

Zero chance that the best shooter on the roster starts this season? Yet Leuer and his defensive issues might? And thst pushes Harris to his weaker position of SF?

Never say never. Check back with me in October.

We shall see but I say yes zero chance to start the season as he's definitely not playing over Bradley or Reggie, And what about Leuer? Are you gonna plug Kennard in there or something? Only other option would be

Reggie/Ish
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Bullock
Harris/Leuer
Drummond/Boban

[Patsfan1081]

I really think they should go back to the rookie/sophomore game also, I mean how lopsided would the game be this season if there was no Embiid(regular all star) playing for the world team? Simmons, Frank K, Lauri M, Saric, Zizic, Zubac, Hernangomez, Milos, Bogdanovich, Pagagiannis, Furkan, Yabusele, Sabonnis, etc.. I might be missing some names yet this team looks nowhere near as competitive as a possible U.S. team.

[The_Hater]

There's zero chance Kennard starts as that's just beyond silly. Even if we are shopping Reggie it's not to let our rookie SG take his place lol. It will look like this

Reggie/Ish/Galloway
Bradley/Kennard/Galloway
Harris/Johnson/Bullock
Leuer/Ellenson
Drummond/Boban/Moreland

With Johnson interchangeable at the 2 and 3, Harris interchangeable at the 3 and 4, Leuer interchangeable at 4 and 3

Zero chance that the best shooter on the roster starts this season? Yet Leuer and his defensive issues might? And thst pushes Harris to his weaker position of SF?

Never say never. Check back with me in October.

We shall see but I say yes zero chance to start the season as he's definitely not playing over Bradley or Reggie, And what about Leuer? Are you gonna plug Kennard in there or something? Only other option would be

Reggie/Ish
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Bullock
Harris/Leuer
Drummond/Boban

He's obviously not starting over Bradley and he doesn't play PG so I'm not even sure why you mention Jackson. He could definitely start over Johnson unless SJ plays considerably better than he did his first two seasons. He was nothing short of awful. And starting Leuer is committing to a bigger, slower lineup on defense which might not be the direction SVG wants to go especially considering he already abandoned Leuer starting mid season. Why would he go down that road again?

Never assume that any rotation player might not eventually find himself in the starting lineup. It's all about finding the best fit.

[MotownMadness]

Zero chance that the best shooter on the roster starts this season? Yet Leuer and his defensive issues might? And thst pushes Harris to his weaker position of SF?

Never say never. Check back with me in October.

We shall see but I say yes zero chance to start the season as he's definitely not playing over Bradley or Reggie, And what about Leuer? Are you gonna plug Kennard in there or something? Only other option would be

Reggie/Ish
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Bullock
Harris/Leuer
Drummond/Boban

He's obviously not starting over Bradley and he doesn't play PG so I'm not even sure why you mention Jackson. He could definitely start over Johnson unless SJ plays considerably better than he did his first two seasons. He was nothing short of awful. And starting Leuer is committing to a bigger, slower lineup on defense which might not be the direction SVG wants to go especially considering he already abandoned Leuer starting mid season. Why would he go down that road again?

Never assume that any rotation player might not eventually find himself in the starting lineup. It's all about finding the best fit.

You want us to play Kennard at SF? That's just asking to get destroyed.

[The_Hater]

We shall see but I say yes zero chance to start the season as he's definitely not playing over Bradley or Reggie, And what about Leuer? Are you gonna plug Kennard in there or something? Only other option would be

Reggie/Ish
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Bullock
Harris/Leuer
Drummond/Boban

He's obviously not starting over Bradley and he doesn't play PG so I'm not even sure why you mention Jackson. He could definitely start over Johnson unless SJ plays considerably better than he did his first two seasons. He was nothing short of awful. And starting Leuer is committing to a bigger, slower lineup on defense which might not be the direction SVG wants to go especially considering he already abandoned Leuer starting mid season. Why would he go down that road again?

Never assume that any rotation player might not eventually find himself in the starting lineup. It's all about finding the best fit.

You want us to play Kennard at SF? That's just asking to get destroyed.

He's a wing player so I'm not sure I see your issue. He's going to be in the rotation and going to play in lineups beside Bradley at some point. Bradley is a defensive stopper and Harris can't guard some SF's so Kennard can guard weaker players if that's what's required. Every team doesn't have Lebron or KD at SF. It's also odd that you have a problem with the defense with Kennard starting but not Leuer starting and forcing Harris out of position.

You seem to be focused on old school positions when the NBA is turning into a positionless league.

[MotownMadness]

He's obviously not starting over Bradley and he doesn't play PG so I'm not even sure why you mention Jackson. He could definitely start over Johnson unless SJ plays considerably better than he did his first two seasons. He was nothing short of awful. And starting Leuer is committing to a bigger, slower lineup on defense which might not be the direction SVG wants to go especially considering he already abandoned Leuer starting mid season. Why would he go down that road again?

Never assume that any rotation player might not eventually find himself in the starting lineup. It's all about finding the best fit.

You want us to play Kennard at SF? That's just asking to get destroyed.

He's a wing player so I'm not sure I see your issue. He's going to be in the rotation and going to play in lineups beside Bradley at some point. Bradley is a defensive stopper and Harris can't guard some SF's so Kennard can guard weaker players if that's what's required. Every team doesn't have Lebron or KD at SF. It's also odd that you have a problem with the defense with Kennard starting but not Leuer starting and forcing Harris out of position.

You seem to be focused on old school positions when the NBA is turning into a positionless league.

He's a guard and has a wingspan smaller that his height. We are still trying to get him playing better defense on guards lets alone big ass SFs who would wreck him defensively and make it hard for him to get separationn offensively.

[The_Hater]

You want us to play Kennard at SF? That's just asking to get destroyed.

He's a wing player so I'm not sure I see your issue. He's going to be in the rotation and going to play in lineups beside Bradley at some point. Bradley is a defensive stopper and Harris can't guard some SF's so Kennard can guard weaker players if that's what's required. Every team doesn't have Lebron or KD at SF. It's also odd that you have a problem with the defense with Kennard starting but not Leuer starting and forcing Harris out of position.

You seem to be focused on old school positions when the NBA is turning into a positionless league.

He's a guard and has a wingspan smaller that his height. We are still trying to get him playing better defense on guards lets alone big ass SFs who would wreck him defensively and make it hard for him to get separationn offensively.

Well it's too early to say where he will struggle defensively. Is he too small for most 3's or too slow for most 2's? But he's going to see minutes at SF this season either way so I'm not sure why you're so caught up in the start/sub thing. And Bradley is going to take most of the top perimeter players on defense anyways. The important thing for SVG to decide is which unit wlll he work best with.

[MotownMadness]

He's a wing player so I'm not sure I see your issue. He's going to be in the rotation and going to play in lineups beside Bradley at some point. Bradley is a defensive stopper and Harris can't guard some SF's so Kennard can guard weaker players if that's what's required. Every team doesn't have Lebron or KD at SF. It's also odd that you have a problem with the defense with Kennard starting but not Leuer starting and forcing Harris out of position.

You seem to be focused on old school positions when the NBA is turning into a positionless league.

He's a guard and has a wingspan smaller that his height. We are still trying to get him playing better defense on guards lets alone big ass SFs who would wreck him defensively and make it hard for him to get separationn offensively.

Well it's too early to say where he will struggle defensively. Is he too small for most 3's or too slow for most 2's? But he's going to see minutes at SF this season either way so I'm not sure why you're so caught up in the start/sub thing. And Bradley is going to take most of the top perimeter players on defense anyways. The important thing for SVG to decide is which unit wlll he work best with.

Dude I answered a guy saying he was going to be starting this year. Your the one that keeps coming at me for it. Im not caught up on any start/sub thing but responded to a posters claim he would start.

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[johnx]

ummmmmm guys.....Jonathon Isaac is going to be really good.

He'd be on more lists if he played in Vegas Summer League.

1st Team
DSJr
Fultz
Ball
Jackson
Simmons

2nd Team
Fox
Mitchell
Tatum
John Collins
Isaac

Funny thing is that the second team would beat the first team imo

Agree. the first team are much more talented but doesn't really fit with each others skillsets and you have to worry about their defense

[DanishLakerFan]

I'd go:

1st
G Lonzo Ball
G Dennis Smith
F Josh Jackson
F Ben SImmons
C J. Collins

2nd
G Markelle Fultz (Normally he'd be a lock at the 1st team, but he wont have the same opportunities as Ball and Smith)
G Donovan Mitchell
F Kyle Kuzma
F Lauri Markannen
C Bam Adebayo

[Eta Carinae]

So a player from a terrible draft, who wasn't known as a shooter and hasn't shown anything in maybe 2 years will 100% make an all rookie team in the same year of a deep draft? And how is Jackson NBA ready? He can't shoot free-throws or make 3's. Defensively NBA ready? Yeah, maybe. But offensively?

It's reasonable for someone to forget to include Simmons but pretty ridiculous to suggest that he won't be among the top 10 rookies chosen but guys like Adebayo and Kuzma will. He's not only far more talented than those guys but he's going to get significantly greater opportunity. It's more likely that he wins Rookie of the Year than not making either All-Rookie team.

Also, the fact that the rest of his draft class was terrible is irrelevant. There's a decent chance he would go #1 over Fultz/Ball this year.

Yeah yeah, I'm sure that most people thought that Giannis had less talent than the other guys picked before him. Adebayo was the 14th pick so no point arguing. I actually forgot about Simmons but I question how much of an impact he'll have on a team where he'll most likely be the 3rd option. Embiid's an extremely ball dominant player and I don't see Fultz letting Simmons take more attempts than him.

That may have been one of the worst takes I have ever seen.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

It's reasonable for someone to forget to include Simmons but pretty ridiculous to suggest that he won't be among the top 10 rookies chosen but guys like Adebayo and Kuzma will. He's not only far more talented than those guys but he's going to get significantly greater opportunity. It's more likely that he wins Rookie of the Year than not making either All-Rookie team.

Also, the fact that the rest of his draft class was terrible is irrelevant. There's a decent chance he would go #1 over Fultz/Ball this year.

Yeah yeah, I'm sure that most people thought that Giannis had less talent than the other guys picked before him. Adebayo was the 14th pick so no point arguing. I actually forgot about Simmons but I question how much of an impact he'll have on a team where he'll most likely be the 3rd option. Embiid's an extremely ball dominant player and I don't see Fultz letting Simmons take more attempts than him.

That may have been one of the worst takes I have ever seen.

Anything I said there that isn't true? Says it's a terrible take but doesn't explain why.

[Kalela]

Zizic may find his way in there.

How much playing time can he get though behind Horford and Baynes?

It is difficult to say at the moment. There is also Theis who will probably see more minutes than Zizic. My guess is Zizic won't see a lot of minutes early on in the season but that will probably change as his conditioning improves and he adjusts to the speed of the NBA. Recency bias should be in his favor.

[Eta Carinae]

Yeah yeah, I'm sure that most people thought that Giannis had less talent than the other guys picked before him. Adebayo was the 14th pick so no point arguing. I actually forgot about Simmons but I question how much of an impact he'll have on a team where he'll most likely be the 3rd option. Embiid's an extremely ball dominant player and I don't see Fultz letting Simmons take more attempts than him.

That may have been one of the worst takes I have ever seen.

Anything I said there that isn't true? Says it's a terrible take but doesn't explain why.

Yeah sry, I came out like an **** there. I think it is pretty safe to say that Ben Simmons won´t be the third choice on offense. If he doesn´t make one of the rookie all teams it´s all because of him not living up to the hype.