2017 Nets Offseason Thread III

[NotPhilJackson]

Hardaway bout to ball out otherwise he's getting poisoned one night in an NYC club and that money is coming off the books

[MrDollarBills]

POR OUT Crabbe, Harkless, Aminu, Swanigan, 1st Rounder (Lotto protected), 2nd Rounder
POR IN Melo, O'Quinn, Q. Acy

NYK OUT Melo, O'Quinn
NYK IN Lin, Harkless, Aminu, Swanigan, 1st Rounder (Lotto Protected)

BKN OUT Lin, Q. Acy
BKN IN Crabbe, 2nd Rounder

So you want us to trade our starting PG, take back an albatross contract and not get a 1st rder?

yeah, that's not how any of this works

Your starting PG is D'Angelo Russell, not Lin. Albatross contract you guys created? It's tough to give a 1st rounder to a team for taking on a contract that they created for said player during free agency. Especially when he is younger, and with more upside than the player you are trading. It's an interesting situation with Crabbe, cause he's got potential to be worth that contract in the right system. Therefore, you simply say no to this, you don't act like you are being robbed.. Cause you aren't .. It's a decision of whether or not to take a risk on Crabbe in a system that will give him more touches than his previous guard / sf heavy roster would. You guys are seemingly rebuilding and going younger, Crabbe fits that mold. If you get a 1st then it's a no brainer for you. That's why you don't get a 1st, because no fair trade should be a no brainer to a third team that's being brought in to a trade. Especially considering the Knicks/Blazers don't need you to make a trade happen, don't expect to walk away clicking your feet.
You either make the exchange or you pass.

Lin and Russell are starting in the backcourt together. Lin will play PG.

We created the contract, Portland was dumb enough to match it....we have no obligation to take it back especially without a pick.

The Blazers/Knicks don't need us to do a deal, then why even post this nonsense on here?

[MrDollarBills]

Your starting PG is D'Angelo Russell, not Lin. Albatross contract you guys created? It's tough to give a 1st rounder to a team for taking on a contract that they created for said player during free agency. Especially when he is younger, and with more upside than the player you are trading. It's an interesting situation with Crabbe, cause he's got potential to be worth that contract in the right system. Therefore, you simply say no to this, you don't act like you are being robbed.. Cause you aren't .. It's a decision of whether or not to take a risk on Crabbe in a system that will give him more touches than his previous guard / sf heavy roster would. You guys are seemingly rebuilding and going younger, Crabbe fits that mold. If you get a 1st then it's a no brainer for you. That's why you don't get a 1st, because no fair trade should be a no brainer to a third team that's being brought in to a trade. Especially considering the Knicks/Blazers don't need you to make a trade happen, don't expect to walk away clicking your feet.
You either make the exchange or you pass.

Even taking Lin out of the equation, if there was any team in League who would straight up take Crabbe for a 2nd rounder, do you think Crabbe would still be in Portland ?

To be fair, there's only one other team in the league known to be willing to pay that much for Crabbe and yup, you guessed it, it's the Nets

Yet, Crabbe is on the Blazers right now. Do you even think before you hit submit?

Someone must be still butt hurt over those back to back losses to the Nets a few months back.

[Ror1997]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

[MrDollarBills]

money has been pretty tight around the league after last summer's drunken spending spree by GMs

[Claud]

The only thing worse than trolling, is proposing and defending such an idiotic trade idea that you have to pretend you were trolling so people don't think you're as dumb as you appeared.

Did you expect any better from a Knicks fan? Dudes must have rocks in their brains ffs

[Paradise]

Hardaway bout to ball out otherwise he's getting poisoned one night in an NYC club and that money is coming off the books

That's real classy. Kill a man for signing a contract that he was given by a terribly run organization. Geeez.


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[TheBrooklynKidd]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster. Hopefully Shabazz for 2yrs/6mill or whatever is needed to maintain max RFA cap room next offseason.

[Ror1997]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster.

Yes it does look like Skil is the odd man out which really sucks because He's an awesome dude and he is one of our better players. But He's a microwave no defense scorer. He's best served as a 6th man on a playoff team. Plus on a cheap deal, I think He's definitely on the radar of some teams. If He's not going to get stable minutes next year, then you need to cash out now before his value drops.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster. Hopefully Shabazz for 2yrs/6mill or whatever is needed to maintain max RFA cap room next offseason.

No way does Kilpatrcik bring back anything.

I'd rather cut Goodwin to be honest. I'm not convinced he can play.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster. Hopefully Shabazz for 2yrs/6mill or whatever is needed to maintain max RFA cap room next offseason.

No way does Kilpatrcik bring back anything.

I'd rather cut Goodwin to be honest. I'm not convinced he can play.

Idk man I think you could get a 2nd from a team competing for the playoffs and looking for cheap 3pt shooting and perimeter/bench scoring. The Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans and 6ers come to mind.

I actually like Archie especially considering his age. I think he's truly positionless and can guard 1-3. if he improves as a shooter he could be really good.

[Ror1997]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster. Hopefully Shabazz for 2yrs/6mill or whatever is needed to maintain max RFA cap room next offseason.

No way does Kilpatrcik bring back anything.

I'd rather cut Goodwin to be honest. I'm not convinced he can play.

Idk. I feel like a cash strapped playoff team would love to add a microwave scorer like Skil to their bench. What better options are there for a team with limited flexibility? The Celtics are cash strapped and signed Shane Larkin...

[Prokorov]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

over a dozen

[Prokorov]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster. Hopefully Shabazz for 2yrs/6mill or whatever is needed to maintain max RFA cap room next offseason.

i think we are set for bigs. doubt we add another unless they think allen needs alot of work in the gleague but i dont think thats the case.

id much prefer to keep skill then to add shabazz

[Ror1997]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

over a dozen

Excluding teams who've resigned their own players? We only picked up options on players.

[brook]

POR OUT Crabbe, Harkless, Aminu, Swanigan, 1st Rounder (Lotto protected), 2nd Rounder
POR IN Melo, O'Quinn, Q. Acy

NYK OUT Melo, O'Quinn
NYK IN Lin, Harkless, Aminu, Swanigan, 1st Rounder (Lotto Protected)

BKN OUT Lin, Q. Acy
BKN IN Crabbe, 2nd Rounder

No we need more than just a 2nd rounder for Crabbe and we won't be giving away Lin for that.

You guys need more than a second rounder for a guy on a contract that you orchestrated? You guys would of had him if Portland didn't match. Lin played like 20 games last season, stop acting like he's some coveted piece. Y'all just traded for D'Russ. The entire reason BKN is even included in the trade is cause NY needs a PG. You don't have much negotiation room. Say no and Crabbe get's removed from the equation and the Knicks take on Leonard for additional assets. Simple as that. BKN knows Crabbe wasn't getting enough touches in POR and is underrated. That's why yall offered him what you did.

We don't have much negotations room?
Seriously?
We don't need to trade anyone. We have cap space, Knicks have a big problem with Carmelo.


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[Prokorov]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

over a dozen

Excluding teams who've resigned their own players? We only picked up options on players.

oh... id have to check. id assume there are others.

[Papi_swav]

Let's stop the thread from being further derailed.

So aside from the OPJ offer sheet, the Nets haven't made any signings. Any other nba team do that this off season?

I bet they sign one more guy and find someone that wants Kilpatrick for a lightly protected second rounder. He's the odd man out IMO and we could use another 3-4 on this roster. Hopefully Shabazz for 2yrs/6mill or whatever is needed to maintain max RFA cap room next offseason.

No way does Kilpatrcik bring back anything.

I'd rather cut Goodwin to be honest. I'm not convinced he can play.

Na Goodwin can ball, he can take it to the rim and finish strong, and his defense is already better than Kilpatrick. I rather cut Kil or just leave the roster the way it is.

[ChokeFasncists]

Alt-right?
Question is, what dummies/delinquents are giving your post and'1s?

OTOH, SKil + GWin for unprotected NYK 2018 pick?

[ChokeFasncists]

I'd either package two of the minimum wings for a better thing or stand pat.

It's good to have depth. Most of our guards can play the 3 so it's not that big of a logjam