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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#61 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:56 am

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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#62 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:37 am

I wonder what position Kenny has him penciled in at?
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#63 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:40 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I wonder what position Kenny has him penciled in at?

Interesting question.

I doubt it at the 1, probably not the 3. 2 I guess?

OTOH, he could be either a ball-handler or a wing in the Brad Stevens system. That's nice.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#64 » by Ror1997 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:12 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:PHO
13-14 46%FG 14%3pt
14-15 40%FG 30%3pt
15-16 42%FG 23%3pt

BRK
16-17 56%FG :eek2: 30%3pt

Wow, did he just get more mature or it's got something to do with Kenny?


He played 3 years with Phoenix and took 790 shots. He played 12 games in Brooklyn and took 61. The reason for the inflated FG% is obvious.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#65 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:57 pm

Archie has such a low arc on his shot and doesn't shoot it until he's almost on the way down of his jump. A somewhat unorthodox form...
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#66 » by Karate Diop » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:48 pm

I love his ability to get to the rim, but when teams catch-on / game plan for it... Can he do anything else? Regardless Archie is probably the one reclamation project I'm most excited about.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#67 » by Ror1997 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:20 pm

Karate Diop wrote:I love his ability to get to the rim, but when teams catch-on / game plan for it... Can he do anything else? Regardless Archie is probably the one reclamation project I'm most excited about.


Pass to the wide open man on the perimeter.

If they double team Archie driving to the rim, more than likely your guy in the corner becomes wide open as a result. When they rush over to cover him, you pass to the guy at the top of the arc. We saw it a million times last year. The nets do a good job of getting wide open 3's.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#68 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:58 am

Ror1997 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:PHO
13-14 46%FG 14%3pt
14-15 40%FG 30%3pt
15-16 42%FG 23%3pt

BRK
16-17 56%FG :eek2: 30%3pt

Wow, did he just get more mature or it's got something to do with Kenny?


He played 3 years with Phoenix and took 790 shots. He played 12 games in Brooklyn and took 61. The reason for the inflated FG% is obvious.

That can't be the only reason tho
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#69 » by Ror1997 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:40 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:PHO
13-14 46%FG 14%3pt
14-15 40%FG 30%3pt
15-16 42%FG 23%3pt

BRK
16-17 56%FG :eek2: 30%3pt

Wow, did he just get more mature or it's got something to do with Kenny?


He played 3 years with Phoenix and took 790 shots. He played 12 games in Brooklyn and took 61. The reason for the inflated FG% is obvious.

That can't be the only reason tho


He took 61 shots. He played 12 games. Its called a Small Sample size, and for good reason. You cannot make any accurate assertion of a player based on the stats he posted in 12 games.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#70 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:53 am

Ror1997 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:
He played 3 years with Phoenix and took 790 shots. He played 12 games in Brooklyn and took 61. The reason for the inflated FG% is obvious.

That can't be the only reason tho


He took 61 shots. He played 12 games. Its called a Small Sample size, and for good reason. You cannot make any accurate assertion of a player based on the stats he posted in 12 games.

Sure, but there's still gotta be more to it.

Things like this don't happen very often and it's not easy to do.

Likewise, DVD was:

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Markinson! :D
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#71 » by kamaze » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:08 am

Kenny wanted to see what he can do with his point guard skills he had been working on but A rchie didn't show much in SL. Didn't show good court vision or an improved jump shot imo Milton Doyle looked better.

It'll be interesting to see what they do.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#72 » by Ror1997 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:08 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:That can't be the only reason tho


He took 61 shots. He played 12 games. Its called a Small Sample size, and for good reason. You cannot make any accurate assertion of a player based on the stats he posted in 12 games.

Sure, but there's still gotta be more to it.

Things like this don't happen very often and it's not easy to do.

Likewise, DVD was:

DET
14-15 30%FG 19%3pt
15-16 35%FG 10%3pt

BRK
16-17 44%FG 38%3pt :eek2:

Markinson! :D




1- Dinwiddie shot 39% from 3 in college

2- his 19% on 65 shots, and 10% on 10 shots (really dude...10 shots?) Are both, you guessed it. Small sample sizes.

3- at 101 shots, I do consider that a good sample size to judge a players 3P%. However, over 3 years in the DLeague, dinwiddie shot 38% on 99 3PA. 2 less than he shot in Brooklyn. The same exact %, on 2 less shots, all before he ever even practiced with Kenny Atkinson.

So actually, Dinwiddie was a good 3 point shooter before he joined Brooklyn. His reputation of being a poor 3 point shooter is because of a small sample size in Detroit. Which further proves my point that you can't make any firm judgment of a player based off of a small sample size.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#73 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:57 am

Ror1997 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:
He took 61 shots. He played 12 games. Its called a Small Sample size, and for good reason. You cannot make any accurate assertion of a player based on the stats he posted in 12 games.

Sure, but there's still gotta be more to it.

Things like this don't happen very often and it's not easy to do.

Likewise, DVD was:

DET
14-15 30%FG 19%3pt
15-16 35%FG 10%3pt

BRK
16-17 44%FG 38%3pt :eek2:

Markinson! :D




1- Dinwiddie shot 39% from 3 in college

2- his 19% on 65 shots, and 10% on 10 shots (really dude...10 shots?) Are both, you guessed it. Small sample sizes.

3- at 101 shots, I do consider that a good sample size to judge a players 3P%. However, over 3 years in the DLeague, dinwiddie shot 38% on 99 3PA. 2 less than he shot in Brooklyn. The same exact %, on 2 less shots, all before he ever even practiced with Kenny Atkinson.

So actually, Dinwiddie was a good 3 point shooter before he joined Brooklyn. His reputation of being a poor 3 point shooter is because of a small sample size in Detroit. Which further proves my point that you can't make any firm judgment of a player based off of a small sample size.

You're right, one shouldn't/can't make judgement on a player based on small sample size, something I didn't do.

But it doesn't mean there is nothing that can be deduced from it.

For one, if what you just said is true, then was Dvd wrongly waived and then all the other GMs wrongly didn't pick him up? Was Marks particularly shrewd? Or just lucky cuz we're starved of legit talent?

OTOH, we saw that he was wildly inconsistent when he first got here. So that means Kenny probably had something to do with it as well.

Markinson!

Same thing with GWin?
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#74 » by Ror1997 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:27 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:Sure, but there's still gotta be more to it.

Things like this don't happen very often and it's not easy to do.

Likewise, DVD was:

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14-15 30%FG 19%3pt
15-16 35%FG 10%3pt

BRK
16-17 44%FG 38%3pt :eek2:

Markinson! :D




1- Dinwiddie shot 39% from 3 in college

2- his 19% on 65 shots, and 10% on 10 shots (really dude...10 shots?) Are both, you guessed it. Small sample sizes.

3- at 101 shots, I do consider that a good sample size to judge a players 3P%. However, over 3 years in the DLeague, dinwiddie shot 38% on 99 3PA. 2 less than he shot in Brooklyn. The same exact %, on 2 less shots, all before he ever even practiced with Kenny Atkinson.

So actually, Dinwiddie was a good 3 point shooter before he joined Brooklyn. His reputation of being a poor 3 point shooter is because of a small sample size in Detroit. Which further proves my point that you can't make any firm judgment of a player based off of a small sample size.

You're right, one shouldn't/can't make judgement on a player based on small sample size, something I didn't do.

But it doesn't mean there is nothing that can be deduced from it.

For one, if what you just said is true, then was Dvd wrongly waived and then all the other GMs wrongly didn't pick him up? Was Marks particularly shrewd? Or just lucky cuz we're starved of legit talent?

OTOH, we saw that he was wildly inconsistent when he first got here. So that means Kenny probably had something to do with it as well.

Markinson!

Same thing with GWin?


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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#75 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Aug 1, 2017 4:27 am

Good bye Goodwin!

Hope a team signs you.

Or maybe we can sign you with a minimum deal later?
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Post#76 » by kamaze » Tue Aug 1, 2017 5:55 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:Good bye Goodwin!

Hope a team signs you.

Or maybe we can sign you with a minimum deal later?


Good luck with your career Archie..He didn't shoot good enough Doyle looked better in SL + they signed "Billy" to a 2 way deal.

Marks is making moves.
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Re: Shams: Nets signing Archie Goodwin (10day contract) 

Post#77 » by Karate Diop » Tue Aug 1, 2017 12:19 pm

I would have rather kept Goodwin over Harris, but I think Harris is that guy that your coach loves way too much that all fans cringe over...
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Post#78 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 1, 2017 12:59 pm

Harris isn't that bad. Archie's problem was that we have a log jam at guard and he is the only one that can't really shoot. I wish we could have kept him but I understand.
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