Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks) Updt pg. 30

djsunyc · Post #381 » by **djsunyc** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm

really any team comfortable with no making the playoffs

xStanton27 · Post #382 » by **xStanton27** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm

Kyrie
Waiters
JJ
Olynyk
Whiteside

Fuego

Vince604 · Post #383 » by **Vince604** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm

Apparently he wants to be the focal point, so the Pacers is the best fit for him.

SK21209 · Post #384 » by **SK21209** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm

The only real advantage to trading Kyrie somewhere he wants to go is possibly gaining back some credibility as an organization in the eyes of the players. I do feel like this offseason has demonstrated to players that Cleveland is one of the worst organizations in the league to tether your future to the second LeBron is not there.

WaveTheWheat80 · Post #385 » by **WaveTheWheat80** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm

mademan wrote:Cleveland still has no reason to accept anything less than full value for him. He's under contract for 3 more years at a discounted price. Hood/Rubio packages arent getting it done. Might as well keep him, have another finals run, hope to get lucky for a chip (or not, w/e) and then re-asses next season when Lebron is also a FA

Favors would be an awesome 5 in cleveland. How about Favors/Hood/Rubio/pick for Irving/Thompson?

Teen Girl Squad · Post #386 » by **Teen Girl Squad** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:03 pm

Best (and most plausible) theory I have is that LeGM tried to float Kyrie trades after Love didn't get great offers, Kyrie got upset, then started making demands. Considering Kyrie almost never leaks things to the media, and LeBron always does (especially via Windhorst), this story sounds like LeBron is setting the stage for him to leave with some level of damage control (See, Kyrie demanded a trade first!). Leak the story now so that should he leave, some of the emotional blow is gone.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #387 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:03 pm

Yeah, I still wouldn't expect a Irving trade, but we'll see.

It sounds like the Cavs are at least willing to accommodate the request, though.

bulliedog8 · Post #388 » by **bulliedog8** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:03 pm

A ton of good fits out there.

Bucks
Jazz
Wolves
Nuggets

gino_giode · Post #389 » by **gino_giode** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:04 pm

Goober wrote:I blame Dan Gilbert

I too blame Gilbert for floating Kyrie's name in trade talks in the first place. But I also blame LeBron for his pussy passive aggressive tactics that forces Cavs ownership to be so desperate.

letsgobulls23 · Post #390 » by **letsgobulls23** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:05 pm

WaveTheWheat80 wrote:
letsgobulls23 wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:
Too much for the Jazz. They won't do Favors/Rubio/Hood for Irving. Cavs would have to throw in a sweetener.

Can you please explain why that's too much from the Jazz?

Three starters that are going to account for about 40pts ppg for Utah? WAY too much. If Utah does that trade, they are gutting the team to get worse AND they shorten their window to win.

True but those 3 guys are far from irreplaceable, not to mention Kyrie can average 20+ in his sleep by himself. There's no chance he gets traded to Utah anyways, but Utah would have no business asking for more in that trade.

Dupp · Post #391 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:05 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Dupp wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Sometimes having an owners with a dickish streak comes in handy. I strongly suspect this might be one of those times. Kyrie isn't going anywhere this season unless there's an issue in N.O. or OKC.

The incompetence of letting the griffin thing go on to the trade deadline and then letting him go while he was in the middle of many trade talks is off the charts. Completely moronic to not have it sorted one way or the other by then.

We could have had a great team. We had good deals for Kyrie and now we won't get anything worthwhile everyone's been traded already.

The Pacers jobbed us. They pulled out at the last the minute. They then took less from OKC. It had nothing to do with Griffin & everything to do with not wanting to see PG in a Cavs jersey next to LBJ.

You don't know that though. Grif may have been able to get it over the line if it was that close. And that trade was a love one that came after the Kyrie ones.

I've wanted to trade Kyrie forever. What's out there now though

Post #392 » by **KingDavid** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:06 pm

Why do that if he and pg can walk next off-season AND get better value in trades to make room for them of need be?

gino_giode · Post #393 » by **gino_giode** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:06 pm

Teen Girl Squad wrote:Best (and most plausible) theory I have is that LeGM tried to float Kyrie trades after Love didn't get great offers, Kyrie got upset, then started making demands. Considering Kyrie almost never leaks things to the media, and LeBron always does (especially via Windhorst), this story sounds like LeBron is setting the stage for him to leave with some level of damage control (See, Kyrie demanded a trade first!). Leak the story now so that should he leave, some of the emotional blow is gone.

Good point, Windhorst is LeBrons mouth piece. Cavs fans should protest for Cavs to trade LeBron for whatever they can get. Because now they'll lose both their best players

mademan · Post #394 » by **mademan** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:06 pm

WaveTheWheat80 wrote:
mademan wrote:Cleveland still has no reason to accept anything less than full value for him. He's under contract for 3 more years at a discounted price. Hood/Rubio packages arent getting it done. Might as well keep him, have another finals run, hope to get lucky for a chip (or not, w/e) and then re-asses next season when Lebron is also a FA

Favors would be an awesome 5 in cleveland. How about Favors/Hood/Rubio/pick for Irving/Thompson?

Rubio is never going to the Cavs, first off. No way, no how. He's a terrible fit with Lebron. Favours is never on the court and Hood is an ehh, above average, 3 and kinda D player. Guys who cant shoot and guy who cant stay on the floor is a non starter

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #395 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:06 pm

no one will want to play in cle LOL

tocooks101 · Post #396 » by **tocooks101** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:06 pm

LAKESHOW · Post #397 » by **LAKESHOW** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:07 pm

What are the Celtics waiting for. This is the perfect moment to use those assets

Jonatton Yeah · Post #398 » by **Jonatton Yeah** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:08 pm

They should trade Byerie to the part of the world that's flat.

ORL_on_FIRE · Post #399 » by **ORL_on_FIRE** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:08 pm

The floor is yours in ORL Kyrie!

mademan · Post #400 » by **mademan** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:08 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:What are the Celtics waiting for. This is the perfect moment to use those assets

Thats the Cavs direct compeition. Unless it's a ridiculous overpay, there's no way Cleveland trades him to the (likely) 2nd best team in the East