Gotta be, they're all from Queens, Tommy doesn't know his dad, both of them big time in the game. Connie upset she never gave dude a child, but he isn't too upset by it because.....his son is Tommy. Makes sense.
Oan, the prosecutors are some of the dumbest cats I've ever seen. Sandaval actually believed he could plant a gun at Truth and be the only one to review the video? He must not know both sides are allowed to view the footage. Surprised his sloppy ass didn't delete it. Angie knows now, the night of Gregs murder, Ghost never went near the bar.
Lakeisha gonna crack now since her shop got closed. She gonna sing like Kelly Price.
Thugger HBC wrote:I must say....the latter episodes always seem to be on point. This one didn't disappoint.
Big episode spoilers
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dude, I jumped off my couch when the judge dismissed the case, everything happened so damn fast...
I almost hope they do kill that kid tariq, I'm beyond sick of him...
I wanna give him an old fashioned ass whooping. You know, like the ones when you get hit from across the room and have this stunned, dumb look on your face because you don't know what just happened? He needs a few of them.
Thugger HBC wrote:I must say....the latter episodes always seem to be on point. This one didn't disappoint.
Big episode spoilers
Spoiler:
dude, I jumped off my couch when the judge dismissed the case, everything happened so damn fast...
I almost hope they do kill that kid tariq, I'm beyond sick of him...
I wanna give him an old fashioned ass whooping. You know, like the ones when you get hit from across the room and have this stunned, dumb look on you face because you don't know what just happened? He needs a few of them.
Lawwwd! Everytime he treats his sister the way he does, I wanna put my arm through the screen and choke him out.
NYKat wrote:...And just like that Im over this show, it took one quick episode for it to jump the shark...
That sh*t was beyond corny... There's only so much suspension of disbelief I can take...
Smh #disappointed #lazywriting
Why? All they did was close up storylines that really had little relevance to the show, but things we may have wondered about. other than
Spoiler:
tommy stopping in Cleveland to visit Holly uncle house and actually finding him there to kill him
I saw nothing out of norm.
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they started to push it with the body count and quick easy clean ups but I let it ride for awhile...
But now all in one episode you kill Julio, the Serbian guy in the ditch, Holly's uncle, the dude in the safe house, junebug... In addition, to the white national security federal agent, and the charlie murphy killing, all the quick clean up bodies are getting corny...
Tommy getting drunk with the Serbs (how can you be that stupid and be a boss?) and then easily getting out of it off that lady's word was too neat and easy... And his one-liners are starting to get cartoon-ish..
...Then the way Kanaan just pops up on Ghost and all of a sudden after he was assumed dead for a year and theyre all of a sudden just best friends again (give me a **** break!)... This guy killed his own son but all if a sudden he gets a heart for dumbass Tariq and forgets all the beef he had with Ghost, who he spent the last 3 seasons obsessed with revenge over
I can suspend disbelief a little bit but this bull is over the top it's become a cartoon
NYKat wrote:...And just like that Im over this show, it took one quick episode for it to jump the shark...
That sh*t was beyond corny... There's only so much suspension of disbelief I can take...
Smh #disappointed #lazywriting
Why? All they did was close up storylines that really had little relevance to the show, but things we may have wondered about. other than
Spoiler:
tommy stopping in Cleveland to visit Holly uncle house and actually finding him there to kill him
I saw nothing out of norm.
Spoiler:
they started to push it with the body count and quick easy clean ups but I let it ride for awhile...
But now all in one episode you kill Julio, the Serbian guy in the ditch, Holly's uncle, the dude in the safe house, junebug... In addition, to the white national security federal agent, and the charlie murphy killing, all the quick clean up bodies are getting corny...
Tommy getting drunk with the Serbs (how can you be that stupid and be a boss?) and then easily getting out of it off that lady's word was too neat and easy... And his one-liners are starting to get cartoon-ish..
...Then the way Kanaan just pops up on Ghost and all of a sudden after he was assumed dead for a year and theyre all of a sudden just best friends again (give me a **** break!)... This guy killed his own son but all if a sudden he gets a heart for dumbass Tariq and forgets all the beef he had with Ghost, who he spent the last 3 seasons obsessed with revenge over
I can suspend disbelief a little bit but this bull is over the top it's become a cartoon
I have to agree with the Kanaan part. I was like....
Chicago was questioning everything anyway. What Tommy said while drunk confirms that. He began to think the other dude was lying and homegirl confirmed it.
NYKat wrote:...And just like that Im over this show, it took one quick episode for it to jump the shark...
That sh*t was beyond corny... There's only so much suspension of disbelief I can take...
Smh #disappointed #lazywriting
Why? All they did was close up storylines that really had little relevance to the show, but things we may have wondered about. other than
Spoiler:
tommy stopping in Cleveland to visit Holly uncle house and actually finding him there to kill him
I saw nothing out of norm.
Spoiler:
they started to push it with the body count and quick easy clean ups but I let it ride for awhile...
But now all in one episode you kill Julio, the Serbian guy in the ditch, Holly's uncle, the dude in the safe house, junebug... In addition, to the white national security federal agent, and the charlie murphy killing, all the quick clean up bodies are getting corny...
Tommy getting drunk with the Serbs (how can you be that stupid and be a boss?) and then easily getting out of it off that lady's word was too neat and easy... And his one-liners are starting to get cartoon-ish..
...Then the way Kanaan just pops up on Ghost and all of a sudden after he was assumed dead for a year and theyre all of a sudden just best friends again (give me a **** break!)... This guy killed his own son but all if a sudden he gets a heart for dumbass Tariq and forgets all the beef he had with Ghost, who he spent the last 3 seasons obsessed with revenge over
I can suspend disbelief a little bit but this bull is over the top it's become a cartoon
I agree the killings are getting ridiculous now, thus my earlier comment about the fukkery, and of course
Spoiler:
Kanan getting a conscience and eventually killing jukebox
but outside of that the scripts need to move forward.
Tommy should never drink, he's even a cokehead to make it worse. So nothing about him is surprising.
Tariq hanging with an old ass man was beyond silly and got old real quick. They had to end that. The part of Kanan and Ghost is actually rather deep. Tommy Ghost and Kanan were basically brothers on the come up. Kanan wanted to keep doing the streetcorner stuff. As dumb as Tommy acts at times he was smart enough to have a legal business to flush his money through. kanan still thinks like a corner cat. Even though Ghost set Kanan up, he admitted he couldn't kill him. Plus he raised Kanan's son and gave him opportunities for a legal way of living. Kanan was more mad that Shawn respected a man that sent his own dad to prison, almost to the effect that Shawn had forgotten everything that happened.. As Kanan said "niqqa you were in the car".
Of course, the Kanan and Ghost dynamic isn't done.
Thugger HBC wrote:Why? All they did was close up storylines that really had little relevance to the show, but things we may have wondered about. other than
Spoiler:
tommy stopping in Cleveland to visit Holly uncle house and actually finding him there to kill him
I saw nothing out of norm.
Spoiler:
they started to push it with the body count and quick easy clean ups but I let it ride for awhile...
But now all in one episode you kill Julio, the Serbian guy in the ditch, Holly's uncle, the dude in the safe house, junebug... In addition, to the white national security federal agent, and the charlie murphy killing, all the quick clean up bodies are getting corny...
Tommy getting drunk with the Serbs (how can you be that stupid and be a boss?) and then easily getting out of it off that lady's word was too neat and easy... And his one-liners are starting to get cartoon-ish..
...Then the way Kanaan just pops up on Ghost and all of a sudden after he was assumed dead for a year and theyre all of a sudden just best friends again (give me a **** break!)... This guy killed his own son but all if a sudden he gets a heart for dumbass Tariq and forgets all the beef he had with Ghost, who he spent the last 3 seasons obsessed with revenge over
I can suspend disbelief a little bit but this bull is over the top it's become a cartoon
I agree the killings are getting ridiculous now, thus my earlier comment about the fukkery, and of course
Spoiler:
Kanan getting a conscience and eventually killing jukebox
but outside of that the scripts need to move forward.
Tommy should never drink, he's even a cokehead to make it worse. So nothing about him is surprising.
Tariq hanging with an old ass man was beyond silly and got old real quick. They had to end that. The part of Kanan and Ghost is actually rather deep. Tommy Ghost and Kanan were basically brothers on the come up. Kanan wanted to keep doing the streetcorner stuff. As dumb as Tommy acts at times he was smart enough to have a legal business to flush his money through. kanan still thinks like a corner cat. Even though Ghost set Kanan up, he admitted he couldn't kill him. Plus he raised Kanan's son and gave him opportunities for a legal way of living. Kanan was more mad that Shawn respected a man that sent his own dad to prison, almost to the effect that Shawn had forgotten everything that happened.. As Kanan said "niqqa you were in the car".
Of course, the Kanan and Ghost dynamic isn't done.
Yeah, the whole storyline feels rushed...
...like they tried to cram storylines that took seasons to develop and resolve them quickly into 2 episodes.
The season started off moving at steady pace and they then a thousand things happen in 2 episodes, it feels like lazy writing to me.
His outburst comes after Sunday’s episode, which–spoiler alert
Spoiler:
showed the death of characters played by Anika Noni Rose and J.R. Ramirez.
“New Man” was intended to be two separate episodes, but creator Courtney Kemp explained to Entertainment Weekly that the network refused to give them a 12-episode rollout for Season 4.
“Unfortunately, Starz would not give us the extra episode,” Kemp said. “I asked them for 12 episodes for Season 4, and they would not do it. So because they would not do it, we had to make it one episode.”
The past two seasons have featured 10 episodes, but with viewership at an all-time high, it seems as though the team wanted to expand Ghost’s (Omari Hardwick) very complicated storyline. Kemp also said that due to their 10-episode limit, the writers were forced to cut a few story elements.
At least that kind of explains why the episode was so crappy...
But you would think Starz would give creative freedom to its most successful show ever
His outburst comes after Sunday’s episode, which–spoiler alert
Spoiler:
showed the death of characters played by Anika Noni Rose and J.R. Ramirez.
“New Man” was intended to be two separate episodes, but creator Courtney Kemp explained to Entertainment Weekly that the network refused to give them a 12-episode rollout for Season 4.
“Unfortunately, Starz would not give us the extra episode,” Kemp said. “I asked them for 12 episodes for Season 4, and they would not do it. So because they would not do it, we had to make it one episode.”
The past two seasons have featured 10 episodes, but with viewership at an all-time high, it seems as though the team wanted to expand Ghost’s (Omari Hardwick) very complicated storyline. Kemp also said that due to their 10-episode limit, the writers were forced to cut a few story elements.
At least that kind of explains why the episode was so crappy...
But you would think Starz would give creative freedom to its most successful show ever
His outburst comes after Sunday’s episode, which–spoiler alert
Spoiler:
showed the death of characters played by Anika Noni Rose and J.R. Ramirez.
“New Man” was intended to be two separate episodes, but creator Courtney Kemp explained to Entertainment Weekly that the network refused to give them a 12-episode rollout for Season 4.
“Unfortunately, Starz would not give us the extra episode,” Kemp said. “I asked them for 12 episodes for Season 4, and they would not do it. So because they would not do it, we had to make it one episode.”
The past two seasons have featured 10 episodes, but with viewership at an all-time high, it seems as though the team wanted to expand Ghost’s (Omari Hardwick) very complicated storyline. Kemp also said that due to their 10-episode limit, the writers were forced to cut a few story elements.
At least that kind of explains why the episode was so crappy...
But you would think Starz would give creative freedom to its most successful show ever
No I wouldn't. You shouldn't either...
An extra episode would be 11 episodes. Someone's math isn't up to par....
Surprised his sloppy ass didn't delete it. Angie knows now, the night of Gregs murder, Ghost never went near the bar.
