Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks) Updt pg. 30

[NBAFan93]

I kept tryin to tell people that the Cavs arent trading Kyrie for f'n Carmelo Anthony. They are goign to get a HAUL

Let the bidding war begin #toldyouso

no hauls to be had... that market has dried up

I had to double check to make sure we were in the same article! Dearon Fox as the centerpiece of a deal with more to add (perhaps Cauley stein) would be a haul, sir.

The Hornets are rumored to be willign to trade Kemba (why wouldnt they?), and an espn article is out on Butler and Towns lobbying for Kyrie (for gee i wonder who...Wiggins)

So, no, you are wrong sir. 'Dried up" Please.

Kemba for Kyrie would be an easy yes for me if I was CLE - did they really offer that? I'd definitely rather have him than Wiggins.

[RightToCensor]

Kings have little chance at retaining Irving. The Cavs would be getting a great young player to jump start the soon-to-be needed rebuild.

[Bobalob]

I kept tryin to tell people that the Cavs arent trading Kyrie for f'n Carmelo Anthony. They are goign to get a HAUL Let the bidding war begin #toldyouso

Just like Butler, George, and Boogie were going to get huge hauls.

I can play too! Just like Deron Williams, Carmelo Anthony, and Kevin Love were going to get huge hauls.

Kevin Love got the #1 pick in return what do you MEAN?!

If the Cavs trade Kyrie for Fultz Cleveland would be dancing in the streets

Melo was being traded to the only team he would re-sign with, so try again

[NBAFan93]

Kemba + Lamb + 2019 top 5 protected 1st for Kyrie

I would without the pick, makes it an overpay for a star trying to leave. Kemba is on a great contract for this season and next

Yeah - if Cavs can get Kemba for Kyrie they should do it. Kemba and LeBron together - wow that would be a great duo. The other stuff would just be gravy.

[Edrees]

The funny thing is Kyrie is doing exactly what people wanted Kevin Durant to do. Why isn't he being celebrated as a hero? He wants a more difficult road to the finals to prove how good he is. He's the opposite of kevin durant, so everyone who trashed KD'd decision, welcome to your new favorite player.

[FlatearthZorro]

Time of Possession / Touches Per Game
2016-17 Isaiah 6.7min /84.7 touches in 33.8min
2015-16 Isaiah 6.2min / 85.3 touches in 32.2min
2013-14 Isaiah 8.0min / 85.1 touches in 34.7min

2016-17 Kyrie 6.4min / 79.0 touches in 35.1min

Again the least ball dominant 30 ppg scorers in NBA hisotry. 30 PPG - get it?

Now you're beginning to annoy me with your ignorance. Having your shamrock green headband fall over your eyes is only cute until you hit the Boston city limits.

1) Isaiah did not average 30ppg. He did not come particularly close to it. He averaged 28.9ppg.
2) gunning up a crapload of shots is not, contrary to belief, actually a sign that you are unselfish, nor does it matter in the least bit for how ball dominant you are.
3) any number of 29pt+ scorers from the past have played less ball dominant games. You may have heard of some of them. Guys like Kareem, or Mailman, or Durant. Dribbling into your offense is problematic when you've got a legendary teammate who does the same.

28.9 points, 6 assists, .463 from the field, .380 from 3, ~.910 from FT. The only ignorant person here is you. Thomas was the sole star on a team where he got trippled at times just to get the ball out of his hands. I was saying that Thomas put up absurd stats as he was the only player with over 17 points a game on our team and the focal point of our offense, he didn't have a top 10 player on his team, which would take a ton of pressure off of him. It's pretty easy, seems like we aren't speaking the same language. I need to dig up the comparasions bu this season was legendary good and the fact he basically did it on his own while being focused on nightly basis is just ridiculous. To add to that he's super durable, which was also one of my points. He's missed a lot less time. Anyhow I ain't no homer, I don't want Irving, I do not see him as a winning player without LeBron maybe I'm wrong but he's a huge injury risk with not that big a reward and the C's would have to surrender a lot more than IT to get him.

[ChilledAlex]

I kept tryin to tell people that the Cavs arent trading Kyrie for f'n Carmelo Anthony. They are goign to get a HAUL

Let the bidding war begin #toldyouso

I pray to god Knicks FO aint that stupid to get Irving.
Melo=Irving straight up - yeah, anything more of value - gtfo!

[RCM88x]

The funny thing is Kyrie is doing exactly what people wanted Kevin Durant to do. Why isn't he being celebrated as a hero? He wants a more difficult road to the finals to prove how good he is. He's the opposite of kevin durant, so everyone who trashed KD'd decision, welcome to your new favorite player.

The difference here is that KD could certainly have been the best player on a championship team, while that is definitely not the case with Kyrie.

The expectation for a Kyrie lead team the 7-8th seed while for KD it's a Finals appearance. That's a big difference in these sort of comparisons and conversations.

[jbk1234]

So long as LBJ is on the Cavs roster, this will not happen. The window for Kyrie to the Celtics trade was next summer, if LBJ left, and when IT insisted on a true max contract. Kyrie just closed that window.

[NBAFan93]

The funny thing is Kyrie is doing exactly what people wanted Kevin Durant to do. Why isn't he being celebrated as a hero? He wants a more difficult road to the finals to prove how good he is. He's the opposite of kevin durant, so he should be everyones favorite player now.

I still like him and think he's courageous - as long as the Cavs get a good return for him and are able to contend just as well next season as they would have had he stayed, it's all good w/ me. I find it kind of heartbreaking that he's been unhappy all this time, but if that's how he feels, oh well, I can see his point - and it's not like LeBron is pledging his commitment Cleveland either and he's even more critical to their future.

I think people who are hating on him for the most part are die hard LeBron fans who think everyone should consider themselves lucky to be carried to success by LeBron. Like the type of fans who will follow LeBron no matter what team he goes to even if he leaves Cleveland high and dry for Hollywood next year. I could be wrong though.

[Louie_Ruckuz]

Man Kyrie is getting a ton of hate and mostly from the Cavs fans because he doesn't wanna play with Lebron anymore lol

Kyrie is awesome and I respect him for trying to win as the man. Whether you like it or not, that's what he wants to do.

[memgrizzlies000]

You'd be the man in Memphis Kyrie...

[BasketballFan7]

Report says that the Cavs want a blue chip young player as the centerpiece. Wiggins makes the most sense. Maybe Devin Booker.

[Coachcavplaya23]

I kept tryin to tell people that the Cavs arent trading Kyrie for f'n Carmelo Anthony. They are goign to get a HAUL

Let the bidding war begin #toldyouso

no hauls to be had... that market has dried up, that and the fact the Cavs have zero leverage

They have an all star locked up for 2 years on a good contract. They have leverage. Kyrie will prob resign given he wants to be main guy.

[Coachcavplaya23]

Report says that the Cavs want a blue chip young player as the centerpiece. Wiggins makes the most sense. Maybe Devin Booker.

They would want to team him up with Booker. Would Bledsoe and Jackson work. They add some defense in Jackson and could start a rebuild too with him.

[DowJones]

Boston would have to sen too much in the deal along with IT to make the salaries work, and Irving would just be a minor upgrade. Plus, IT wants to be in Boston and Kyrie doesn't.

Kyrie to Phoenix for Bledsoe and a prospect (Alex Len?) probably makes the most sense. Bledsoe is a pretty good player when healthy, and the Cavs would still be the odds on favorite to win the East next year.

Kyrie is also 3 years younger and he is bigger than IT which means he should last longer. That's huge for a Boston team that wants to be a contender 6 years from now. Kyrie fits with Boston's young core AND would help them win more right now.

The problem is Boston wouldn't pay the price. It would need to be IT/Crowder plus Brown or the Laker pick. I would personally go as low as IT/Crowder/Semi/Memphis19 first/Boston18 first...but I doubt Cleveland does.

[reggielewis]

LBJ loves IT. He was one of the first players to say "Boston has a superstar in Isiah Thomas" and on many occasions has spoken in great admiration for his play. If the King wants IT than Clev will get him lol. I would imagine though that wither Kyrie goes to Phoenix or Denver.

[poeman]

Report says that the Cavs want a blue chip young player as the centerpiece. Wiggins makes the most sense. Maybe Devin Booker.

They would want to team him up with Booker. Would Bledsoe and Jackson work. They add some defense in Jackson and could start a rebuild too with him.

I can see a trade of Jackson and Bledsoe happening and its better then what my knicks will offer but I dont know if Kyrie would commit beyond the 2 years. You want to build a future with him and Booker there. Kyrie could be like no thanks and bolt.

[Bobalob]

I kept tryin to tell people that the Cavs arent trading Kyrie for f'n Carmelo Anthony. They are goign to get a HAUL

Let the bidding war begin #toldyouso

I pray to god Knicks FO aint that stupid to get Irving.
Melo=Irving straight up - yeah, anything more of value - gtfo!

My man....WHAT value?

The only other value is Ntikilina. You'd hold onto Ntilikina rather than have Kyrie? Really? really?

Melo and Ntilikina for KyrIe would be a steal for NY and a bad recoup for Cleveland.

[NBAFan93]

This moment from last season has always stuck out in my mind as a sign that all was not well between LBJ and Kyrie. If looks could kill Kyrie would have been dead - Kyrie handled it pretty professionally though IMO.

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