Moar Melo Thread - Update PG 17 - THE Mike Rice says NY/Por/Hou back on

MaseInYourFace · Post #61 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:09 pm

nedleeds wrote:
camillepd wrote:
Big Chan wrote:I would take Kanter, Abrines, Mcdermott, and a first for Melo.

I wouldn't. They need to give up Adams instead of Kanter and add the young SG Ferguson.

HHAAAAHHHHAAAAA it's unreal what some of you guys still think $29 million a year, 33 year old Melo with one of 3 NTCs is worth in trades. He's negative value.

Ferguson wasn't a high pick and I love Adams but he's honestly a slightly overpaid role player.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #62 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:11 pm

mpharris36 wrote:maybe even a team like Brooklyn would even take Kanter for a low price...he's young offensive minded seems to fit in that offense and they have cap space.

yeah I'm thinking BK would be way more inclined to take on Kanter than they would any of Portland's chit contracts. Probably wouldn't need a 1st to do it tbh. Maybe a heavily protected one.

Post #63 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:11 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:

Can we stop the Melo to Cleveland nonsense. There is NO indication he will go there. People just love to keep wishing on a star. James is way to Fickle. He left wade and bosh behind. He damn sure would leave Melo Behind. Melo is not dumb, he wants houston cause its more certainty. Even the OKC rumors make more sense...

TBH, with all of the LeBron rumors I don't know why LAL hasn't been talked about more.

What is LAL willing to give up. They seamed not to want to bet the farm on PG, so not sure what they would do. If LAL is smart they stay the course with the youth. Like WE should be doing. **** Kyrie Irving and what it takes to get him. If aint a straight up trade for Melo which it won't be....Irving can Kick Rocks all the way to Japan.

Agreed on Irving. We're just not in position.

Here's my Melo idea.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zl5nc26

That's the baseline anyway. If they're assembling some banana boat pieces they might as well call it a day with Randle.

Post #64 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:13 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:maybe even a team like Brooklyn would even take Kanter for a low price...he's young offensive minded seems to fit in that offense and they have cap space.

yeah I'm thinking BK would be way more inclined to take on Kanter than they would any of Portland's chit contracts. Probably wouldn't need a 1st to do it tbh. Maybe a heavily protected one.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc4bq5pc

this works...send 2018 CHI 2nd round and Kanter to Brooklyn

We take back bookers expiring, ferguson, and abrines.

Post #65 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:15 pm

of the teams Melo might go to the Thunder would be the best for me

not in terms of what we get back
I haven't looked into that enough yet

but the thunder would be a good team to see him on

Cavs would be annoying ring chasing
Houston would be too many unlikable players in one place and a terrible system

but Melo, George and Westbrook with Adams? Thats fun to watch

Id be happy for him
and the fanbase there doesn't suck

god shammgod · Post #66 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:16 pm

he's negative value and yet very good teams want to trade for him. sounds like he's not to me.

Post #67 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:18 pm

god shammgod wrote:he's negative value and yet very good teams want to trade for him. sounds like he's not to me.

Agreed. The narrative on him is gonna change as soon as he's moved too. If we're taking bad salary back we need good pieces forward.

newyorker4ever · Post #68 » by **newyorker4ever** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:18 pm

god shammgod wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I don't want Kanter. Ewww

i'm saying. that's a tough one. i don't know that i can do it.

Sham you gotta know that whoever we trade Melo to we're gonna have to take on one bigger contract just to make the money work for Melo?? That's why we hear names like R.Anderson and B.Knight and i'd take Kanter over either one of those two.

Post #69 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:20 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:maybe even a team like Brooklyn would even take Kanter for a low price...he's young offensive minded seems to fit in that offense and they have cap space.

yeah I'm thinking BK would be way more inclined to take on Kanter than they would any of Portland's chit contracts. Probably wouldn't need a 1st to do it tbh. Maybe a heavily protected one.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc4bq5pc

this works...send 2018 CHI 2nd round and Kanter to Brooklyn

We take back bookers expiring, ferguson, and abrines.

Ha. That would be glorious. Are you thinking the Nets are having sellers remorse on Lopez?

SelbyCobra · Post #70 » by **SelbyCobra** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:20 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:Give me Kanter, T.Ferguson and Jerami Grant

nedleeds · Post #71 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:21 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
camillepd wrote:I wouldn't. They need to give up Adams instead of Kanter and add the young SG Ferguson.

HHAAAAHHHHAAAAA it's unreal what some of you guys still think $29 million a year, 33 year old Melo with one of 3 NTCs is worth in trades. He's negative value.

Ferguson wasn't a high pick and I love Adams but he's honestly a slightly overpaid role player.

Adams is a young, athletic, elite rim protecting, pick and roll center that you can keep in the game because he shoots 60% from the line. He's overpaid a bit but who isn't? KD, LeFlop, Curry and Kawhi.

newyorker4ever · Post #72 » by **newyorker4ever** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:maybe even a team like Brooklyn would even take Kanter for a low price...he's young offensive minded seems to fit in that offense and they have cap space.

KANter is not a bad player though. The only real bad part of his game is his man defense but he has plenty of offense and is a good rebounder.

god shammgod · Post #73 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:23 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:I don't want Kanter. Ewww

i'm saying. that's a tough one. i don't know that i can do it.

Sham you gotta know that whoever we trade Melo to we're gonna have to take on one bigger contract just to make the money work for Melo?? That's why we hear names like R.Anderson and B.Knight and i'd take Kanter over either one of those two.

i understand salaries have to match. but in all of these cases we have to take back players those teams would have to pay to get rid of normally. you need to be compensated for that as well as whatever you would get for melo.

Dave4585 · Post #74 » by **Dave4585** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:24 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:maybe even a team like Brooklyn would even take Kanter for a low price...he's young offensive minded seems to fit in that offense and they have cap space.

KANter is not a bad player though. The only real bad part of his game is his man defense but he has plenty of offense and is a good rebounder.

We have a younger and cheaper Kanter named Willy.

Post #75 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:24 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
camillepd wrote:I wouldn't. They need to give up Adams instead of Kanter and add the young SG Ferguson.

HHAAAAHHHHAAAAA it's unreal what some of you guys still think $29 million a year, 33 year old Melo with one of 3 NTCs is worth in trades. He's negative value.

Ferguson wasn't a high pick and I love Adams but he's honestly a slightly overpaid role player.

Ferguson is probably the best young asset they have

if I remember properly he's a solid defender

they really don't have much to offer

perhaps we can land a pick

MaseInYourFace · Post #76 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:24 pm

nedleeds wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:
nedleeds wrote:HHAAAAHHHHAAAAA it's unreal what some of you guys still think $29 million a year, 33 year old Melo with one of 3 NTCs is worth in trades. He's negative value.

Ferguson wasn't a high pick and I love Adams but he's honestly a slightly overpaid role player.

Adams is a young, athletic, elite rim protecting, pick and roll center that you can keep in the game because he shoots 60% from the line. He's overpaid a bit but who isn't? KD, LeFlop, Curry and Kawhi.

His salary for the next four years is going way up. At that price he's not a great value hence that isn't the impossible deal you are making it out to be. Also in what world is Adams on the same level as those guys?

PeoplesChamp · Post #77 » by **PeoplesChamp** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:28 pm

Thanks Bill Simmons....

god shammgod · Post #78 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:29 pm

Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:he's negative value and yet very good teams want to trade for him. sounds like he's not to me.

Agreed. The narrative on him is gonna change as soon as he's moved too. If we're taking bad salary back we need good pieces forward.

3 western conference playoff teams want him. 2 think he's the final piece to be a contender. meanwhile derek rose playing for the minimum. some of you tried to act like they were the same. shame (rings bell) shame.

nedleeds · Post #79 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:30 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:
Ferguson wasn't a high pick and I love Adams but he's honestly a slightly overpaid role player.

Adams is a young, athletic, elite rim protecting, pick and roll center that you can keep in the game because he shoots 60% from the line. He's overpaid a bit but who isn't? KD, LeFlop, Curry and Kawhi.

His salary for the next four years is going way up. At that price he's not a great value hence that isn't the impossible deal you are making it out to be. Also in what world is Adams on the same level as those guys?

ISN'T. I'm saying those 4 dudes are about the only players who aren't overpaid. And rookie scale dudes. Maybe Thomas and Crowder who have awful agents.

Post #80 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:30 pm

Dave4585 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:maybe even a team like Brooklyn would even take Kanter for a low price...he's young offensive minded seems to fit in that offense and they have cap space.

KANter is not a bad player though. The only real bad part of his game is his man defense but he has plenty of offense and is a good rebounder.

We have a younger and cheaper Kanter named Willy.

Kanter is miles ahead of WIlly on scoring and on offensive rebounding honestly

I love Willy but Kanter is one of the most efficient scoring bigs in the league

he could be a star if he could defend a chair