Bill Simmons: NYK and OKC talking Melo trade?

Knickerbocker91 · Post #61 » by **Knickerbocker91** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:19 pm

nedleeds wrote:Adams is so much better and more valuable than Melo it's not even close. Also if OKC gets fleeced Melo just vetoes the deal. Kanter and trash for Melo and Lee is a great deal, Kanter can get moved at the deadline. Or Kanter is young enough he might opt out. 34 year old Melo isn't opting out of $30+ Million.

Well someone isn't playing with a full deck here. :lol:

Effigy · Post #62 » by **Effigy** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:29 pm

MaxRider wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
I also read Michael Jordan is recruiting him as well. Melo is Jordan spokesman.

Lol relax. Your vendetta is obvious because you want him on the Rockets so bad.

I'm just commenting on objective reports. I have no horse in this race.

Tell you the truth I don't know if I really want Melo. There are too many Melo things we heard this past few weeks.
IDK if this is Knicks smoke screen trying to jack up Melo value or those team really want him.
I just feel there shouldn't be any discussion unless Melo say he's willing to waive his NTC for that team.

If all you're giving up is Ryan Anderson and some throw ins, then yes, you most certainly do want Melo. If nothing else you get out of Anderson's hideous contract early,

MaxRider · Post #63 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:34 pm

JXL wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Lol relax. Your vendetta is obvious because you want him on the Rockets so bad.

I'm just commenting on objective reports. I have no horse in this race.

Tell you the truth I don't know if I really want Melo. There are too many Melo things we heard this past few weeks.
IDK if this is Knicks smoke screen trying to jack up Melo value or those team really want him.
I just feel there shouldn't be any discussion unless Melo say he's willing to waive his NTC for that team.

And he did, for Houston. He wants to go to Houston.

i was talking about OKC and Portland

MaxRider · Post #64 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:35 pm

Effigy wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Lol relax. Your vendetta is obvious because you want him on the Rockets so bad.

I'm just commenting on objective reports. I have no horse in this race.

Tell you the truth I don't know if I really want Melo. There are too many Melo things we heard this past few weeks.
IDK if this is Knicks smoke screen trying to jack up Melo value or those team really want him.
I just feel there shouldn't be any discussion unless Melo say he's willing to waive his NTC for that team.

If all you're giving up is Ryan Anderson and some throw ins, then yes, you most certainly do want Melo. If nothing else you get out of Anderson's hideous contract early,

Anderson is a better shooter. Just afraid Melo wants to do iso and take the ball away from CP3 and Harden. His relationship with MDA isn't that good before.

Post #65 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:41 pm

Melo, OQuinn for Kanter, Singler, Ferguson, McDermott, Grant, 2018 CHI 2nd

OptionZero · Post #66 » by **OptionZero** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:42 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:
BudenFerry wrote:
TheGameWinner wrote:
Lol - Kanter, similar to JV, is a dead contract. No need for big man like that on that type of salary. He doesn't fit with Krystaps.

Will likely be Adams if this deal happens.

OKC is not letting go of Adams and the Knicks won't get a piece as good as Adams in a Melo deal.

I don't want OKC to get rid of Adams for a Melo rental. Same goes for Kanter. If they can do this w/o giving up those two guys I'd be all for it.

Wait, an OKC fan that desperately wants to keep Kanter?

I have seen it all

BowlRips · Post #67 » by **BowlRips** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:46 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Melo, OQuinn for Kanter, Singler, Ferguson, McDermott, Grant, 2018 CHI 2nd

call the league office you have a deal

NBAFan93 · Post #68 » by **NBAFan93** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:55 pm

OptionZero wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
BudenFerry wrote:

OKC is not letting go of Adams and the Knicks won't get a piece as good as Adams in a Melo deal.

I don't want OKC to get rid of Adams for a Melo rental. Same goes for Kanter. If they can do this w/o giving up those two guys I'd be all for it.

Wait, an OKC fan that desperately wants to keep Kanter?

I have seen it all

lol - it's more for non-basketball reasons - but I don't think he's a bad player, he's just overpaid - plus he's only 25 years old...

OptionZero · Post #69 » by **OptionZero** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:57 pm

I can't help you man.

Thundestruck · Post #70 » by **Thundestruck** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:01 pm

OptionZero wrote:I can't help you man.

I don't desperately want to keep Kanter but he is really good against almost every team in the league but a couple. I would trade him for Carmelo in heartbeat but Kanter is really valuable to the Thunder.

OptionZero · Post #71 » by **OptionZero** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:22 pm

When you factor in his contract, its hard to say he's valuable to anyone. He's been a net negative.

Post #72 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:31 pm

cpower wrote:OKC turning from the top defensive team to avg offense and avg defense. LOL

How would trading Kanter and McDermott/Abrines for melo make okc worse defensively?

SCHeat · Post #73 » by **SCHeat** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:43 pm

Kanter and pieces for Melo makes a lot of sense for both sides. That OKC team would actually have a really good chance to push GSW

JordansBulls · Post #74 » by **JordansBulls** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:52 pm

BasketballFan7 wrote:Westbrook
Roberson
George
Anthony
Adams

Nasty starting lineup!

The type of lineup that would put fear into the Warriors.

3Diamantidis · Post #75 » by **3Diamantidis** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:08 pm

Knickerbocker91 wrote:
Best2EverDoIt wrote:I would love to see him in OKC only if we can pull off a robbery like we did with the Pacers. I dont want to lose our whole bench for 1 player. Abrines and Mcdermott need to stay.

You can take Courtney Lee too!

And this is one of the reasons why the knicks suck every year.
Lee is fine. He always was fine. A good 2 way player who can be decisive on a good team.
But you want him gone. Because you think he is the problem(or one of the problems).
Build around porzingis. Support him with hernangomez and ntilikina as your future big 3. And keep lee as the veteran who will teach these guys one thing or two.
But it's the knicks. Always givin up the wrong players, always being impatient. Oh well.

ISayshowmee · Post #76 » by **ISayshowmee** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:17 pm

Knicks using OKC now to get more from Rockets.

Commodor · Post #77 » by **Commodor** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:25 pm

JordansBulls wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:Westbrook
Roberson
George
Anthony
Adams

Nasty starting lineup!

The type of lineup that would put fear into the Warriors.

So when the dubs go small... Adams stays in? Or does Anthony's legendary post defense strike fear in us?

RunOKC · Post #78 » by **RunOKC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:32 pm

Mixed feelings on this

I would think you pull the trigger for Kanter/McD/Chi 2nd or something similar if you're Presti. Would miss Kanter a lil for a few reasons, but gotta do what you gotta do I guess.

Moose · Post #79 » by **Moose** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:38 pm

3Diamantidis wrote:
Knickerbocker91 wrote:
Best2EverDoIt wrote:I would love to see him in OKC only if we can pull off a robbery like we did with the Pacers. I dont want to lose our whole bench for 1 player. Abrines and Mcdermott need to stay.

You can take Courtney Lee too!

And this is one of the reasons why the knicks suck every year.
Lee is fine. He always was fine. A good 2 way player who can be decisive on a good team.
But you want him gone. Because you think he is the problem(or one of the problems).
Build around porzingis. Support him with hernangomez and ntilikina as your future big 3. And keep lee as the veteran who will teach these guys one thing or two.
But it's the knicks. Always givin up the wrong players, always being impatient. Oh well.

That isn't why he wants to trade lee. He wants to trade lee for more assets because the knicks aren't going to win anything for a few years at the very least and he is on the wrong side of 30.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #80 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:38 pm

I'm going to laugh so hard if Melo goes to OKC, then next year LeBron somehow joins up with Russ, PG13, Melo, and LeBron, and beats GS to bring a ring to OKC, not only a slap in the face to KD, but bringing a title for OKC.

I would hate LeBron to leave my Cavs again, but if this happened it would make it a lot more tolerable for me lol.