Rumors Surfacing of Houston, Portland, NYK Trade

[Waynearchetype]

If they dump Crabbe just to take on Anderson or Gordon and help out a conference rival I'm going to be really mad. Crabbe + Harkless > Gordon or Anderson...

[Blazinaway]

I really didn't buy into the Mike Rice tweet...but combine that with this deal..."Hold onto your shorts!"

there are two 'signs'...the Crabbe trade and the delay of Connaughton's guarantee date.

they could be mirages and it was just a case of Portland wanting to get this deal done, then having the option of cutting Connaughton to drop under the tax threshold....but then, who plays backup SG?

or it could mean another trade is in the works. I sure hope it ain't for Anderson

in a Knick trade we could easily see Courtney Lee coming our way

[Wizenheimer]

If they dump Crabbe just to take on Anderson or Gordon and help out a conference rival I'm going to be really mad. Crabbe + Harkless > Gordon or Anderson...

well yeah, if that's all it is, however, it may be ab incomplete equation

is it still the same flow if it was

Crabbe + Harkless + Meyers + 45M in luxury tax < Ariza + Gordon/Lee?

Blazers screwed up big time last summer and they are trying to crawl out of the swamp. It won't be a clean extraction. The problem is that Turner may still be on the payroll

[DusterBuster]

I really didn't buy into the Mike Rice tweet...but combine that with this deal..."Hold onto your shorts!"

there are two 'signs'...the Crabbe trade and the delay of Connaughton's guarantee date.

they could be mirages and it was just a case of Portland wanting to get this deal done, then having the option of cutting Connaughton to drop under the tax threshold....but then, who plays backup SG?

or it could mean another trade is in the works. I sure hope it ain't for Anderson

in a Knick trade we could easily see Courtney Lee coming our way

Lee would be an upgrade over Crabbe imo. He's older, but he's still a super strong 3pt shooter, probably a more impactful lockerroom presence and he's a better defender.

[Wizenheimer]

I really didn't buy into the Mike Rice tweet...but combine that with this deal..."Hold onto your shorts!"

there are two 'signs'...the Crabbe trade and the delay of Connaughton's guarantee date.

they could be mirages and it was just a case of Portland wanting to get this deal done, then having the option of cutting Connaughton to drop under the tax threshold....but then, who plays backup SG?

or it could mean another trade is in the works. I sure hope it ain't for Anderson

in a Knick trade we could easily see Courtney Lee coming our way

good point

here's a comparison between Lee and Gordon last season:

http://bkref.com/tiny/ymHEC

pretty close except for volume. Both have 3 years left, with Lee costing 1.3M less a year. Gordon is 3 years younger though but with an extensive injury history. Lee is much better a defense

[Wizenheimer]

I'd hate to see Harkless traded but if the Blazers could somehow dump Meyers in the deal and get Ariza + Lee/Gordon back, I suppose it's an overall positive exchange, especially considering the tax savings

[Blazinaway]

I'd hate to see Harkless traded but if the Blazers could somehow dump Meyers in the deal and get Ariza + Lee/Gordon back, I suppose it's an overall positive exchange, especially considering the tax savings

Meyers and Hark for Lee? do Knicks have enough capspace so its legal or would we have too add a bit?

[Wizenheimer]

I'd hate to see Harkless traded but if the Blazers could somehow dump Meyers in the deal and get Ariza + Lee/Gordon back, I suppose it's an overall positive exchange, especially considering the tax savings

Meyers and Hark for Lee? do Knicks have enough capspace so its legal or would we have too add a bit?

I added Ariza

[DusterBuster]

I'd hate to see Harkless traded but if the Blazers could somehow dump Meyers in the deal and get Ariza + Lee/Gordon back, I suppose it's an overall positive exchange, especially considering the tax savings

I like the veteran help the Blazers get there, particularly on the defensive end with Ariza and Lee if that's what it ends up being.

I would consider the Blazers an improved team post-trades with that.

[Blazinaway]

I'd hate to see Harkless traded but if the Blazers could somehow dump Meyers in the deal and get Ariza + Lee/Gordon back, I suppose it's an overall positive exchange, especially considering the tax savings

Meyers and Hark for Lee? do Knicks have enough capspace so its legal or would we have too add a bit?

I added Ariza

cool, we're still thinking 3-way then with HOU on that route

[Goldbum]

What about Meyers/Hark for Lee and Ariza??? Can we make that work... maybe someone wants the nonguaranteed Patty contract?

[Goldbum]

I'd take Either Gordon or Lee, if that scenario ends up happening.

[Wizenheimer]

well, the assumption that another shoe is going to drop could be flawed

but there sure have been lots of rumors of PDX/NYK/HOU being involved in trade discussions. Enough to think smoke = fire

maybe it was Meyers that was the rumored player nobody wanted; maybe it was Anderson; I doubt it was Crabbe. And I can't see how the Blazers can trade Harkless without getting a SF back, although I suppose they'd still have Aminu

but by gawd if NY is getting Harkless and Houston is getting Melo I sure hope the Blazers are extracting their ponds of flesh out of the trade. No Anderson for chrissakes....Meyers out, and decent player(s) coming back

[Blazinaway]

Not sure what BOS is doing but that have way too many SF types like Crowder and they signed Hayward and drafted the other SF at #3. I'd love to get Crowder here and they need bigs badly - Ed Davis and/or Vonleh come to mind. Perhaps in a NY trade we could also have Oquinn routed to Bos as well and get Crowder here. He's be a great get

[Norm2953]

I can imagine the joy on this board if Crabbe and Meyers were traded this off season with
Trevor Ariza's expiring contract and either Lee/Gordon coming back. Portland badly
needs some defenders on the perimeter.

[Blazinaway]

well, the assumption that another shoe is going to drop could be flawed

but there sure have been lots of rumors of PDX/NYK/HOU being involved in trade discussions. Enough to think smoke = fire

maybe it was Meyers that was the rumored player nobody wanted; maybe it was Anderson; I doubt it was Crabbe. And I can't see how the Blazers can trade Harkless without getting a SF back, although I suppose they'd still have Aminu

but by gawd if NY is getting Harkless and Houston is getting Melo I sure hope the Blazers are extracting their ponds of flesh out of the trade. No Anderson for chrissakes....Meyers out, and decent player(s) coming back

as I said in my previous post I'd love to get Crowder - Bos needs bigs and has way too many SF types, gotta believe their might be a trade there

[Wizenheimer]

I can imagine the joy on this board if Crabbe and Meyers were traded this off season with
Trevor Ariza's expiring contract and either Lee/Gordon coming back. Portland badly
needs some defenders on the perimeter.

Gordon isn't much of a defender. Ariza is, but so is Harkless and it's kind of hard to see how Portland fits into a NY/Hou trade without sending Harkless

[Wizenheimer]

well, the assumption that another shoe is going to drop could be flawed

but there sure have been lots of rumors of PDX/NYK/HOU being involved in trade discussions. Enough to think smoke = fire

maybe it was Meyers that was the rumored player nobody wanted; maybe it was Anderson; I doubt it was Crabbe. And I can't see how the Blazers can trade Harkless without getting a SF back, although I suppose they'd still have Aminu

but by gawd if NY is getting Harkless and Houston is getting Melo I sure hope the Blazers are extracting their ponds of flesh out of the trade. No Anderson for chrissakes....Meyers out, and decent player(s) coming back

as I said in my previous post I'd love to get Crowder - Bos needs bigs and has way too many SF types, gotta believe their might be a trade there

there is no better way to completely monkey-wrench a trade then by getting Danny Ainge involved

[Blazinaway]

well, the assumption that another shoe is going to drop could be flawed

but there sure have been lots of rumors of PDX/NYK/HOU being involved in trade discussions. Enough to think smoke = fire

maybe it was Meyers that was the rumored player nobody wanted; maybe it was Anderson; I doubt it was Crabbe. And I can't see how the Blazers can trade Harkless without getting a SF back, although I suppose they'd still have Aminu

but by gawd if NY is getting Harkless and Houston is getting Melo I sure hope the Blazers are extracting their ponds of flesh out of the trade. No Anderson for chrissakes....Meyers out, and decent player(s) coming back

as I said in my previous post I'd love to get Crowder - Bos needs bigs and has way too many SF types, gotta believe their might be a trade there

there is no better way to completely monkey-wrench a trade then by getting Danny Ainge involved

LOL! good point! maybe since he's missed on so many he's now feeling the pressure to use some of those assets and get something done

[B0naf1d3]

Crabbe + Harkless+ Meyers for TPE(12.9M) + Ariza + Lee would be a solid return, in terms of the rumored NY/HOU/POR deal combined with the Nets deal.