Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion

[starbosa10]

Nah, dude. You rehab Brandon Knight. You continue to be kind. Hopefully, he can put things back together for himself. That would start by being a productive player off the bench. You just hold and keep playing the long game, because that's the best game in this town.

Booker and Jackson gonna terrorize teams one day. Bender's gonna come off the bench one day and nail four straight threes, ending a game in the second or third quarter. Ulis is going to have that month where he averages 10 APG on a 5:1 A/TO.

BK's injury effects basically nothing from the Suns POV. Worst case scenario was BK being a very unhappy camper. That possibility has basically been eliminated. And that's that.

yup, cutting him or hanging him out to dry after an injury would be a bad look.

[Damkac]

Didn't Nets made that ridiculous offer sheet last year to Crabbe? now eating it anyway.

They actually want him and they have had trouble using their cap space. They have a pretty good group of 1-3s, but they now lack in bigs. I'm glad they took him because I feared they might be one team that could MAYBE offer Warren way too much money.

Portand is lucky that other teams want to help them. First Nuggets, now Nets.

[bwgood77]

If the Lakers win the lottery next year then the BK trade could go down as one of the worst in NBA history.

NBA HISTORY!

Think about that .

Brandon Knight for Luka Doncic? Ayton? Porter? Bamba?

Yeah, that would be a nice pick to have right now.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Knight injury changes nothing for the team.

[Damkac]

If the Lakers win the lottery next year then the BK trade could go down as one of the worst in NBA history.

NBA HISTORY!

Think about that .

Brandon Knight for Luka Doncic? Ayton? Porter? Bamba?

Yeah, that would be a nice pick to have right now.

The best we can do is to stop thinking about this.

[bwgood77]

Didn't Nets made that ridiculous offer sheet last year to Crabbe? now eating it anyway.

They actually want him and they have had trouble using their cap space. They have a pretty good group of 1-3s, but they now lack in bigs. I'm glad they took him because I feared they might be one team that could MAYBE offer Warren way too much money.

Portand is lucky that other teams want to help them. First Nuggets, now Nets.

Well, the Nets made out pretty well in this one. First, they have to overpay players to sign them if they want young guys that are RFAs, which is why they gave him that offer sheet.

BUT, with this trade, since Andrew Nicholson was so terrible, they rid their $6 million a year contract they were paying him for Crabbe, so the net difference is $11 million a year. So this actually works out a lot better for them than had Portland not matched in the first place, unless they otherwise thought Nicholson was worth keeping. Portland obviously didn't.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Allen Crabbe another salary dump, Nets look like they could win 30 games this season - Lin, Russell, Crabbe, Carroll, Mozgov.

[RunDogGun]

I'm not too worried about the Laker pick. One, there is nothing we can do about it now, and I'm betting the NBA isn't going to make the Lakers give up the number one pick. I'm betting it will as far away from the number one pick that it can be, or the league helps the Lakers out by giving them better calls throughout the season, like they did to help the Laker get into the playoffs to screw us out of the lotto pick years ago.

[ATTL]

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Chris Vernon has the most annoying voice in the world.

"The suns need to trade bledsoe, josh Jackson, unprotected Miami pick, and Tyler ulis for kyrie."

Two minutes later
"Carmelo for Irving straight up makes sense for both teams"

[RunDogGun]

Knight injury changes nothing for the team.

Well I little bit actually. The team doesn't have to worry about sitting Brandon, nor worrying about playing the even younger guys a bit further down the bench.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

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Chris Vernon has the most annoying voice in the world.

"The suns need to trade bledsoe, josh Jackson, unprotected Miami pick, and Tyler ulis for kyrie."

Two minutes later
"Carmelo for Irving straight up makes sense for both teams"

Some clowns spend their whole lives thinking they're serious.

[bwgood77]

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Yeah, I noticed ESPN said it was at a miami pro-am game. Found this on instagram

[Walt_Uoob]

That's really sad about BK.

But now I wonder: would Knight's contract now be slightly useful to an over the cap team? Like if Houston traded Anderson for Knight, they'd create some cap space due to the difference in annual salary and be able to add the $6.8m disabled player exception to their total cap space as well?

[AZWildByNature]

I posted this a while ago, but I think it needs to be looked at again.

I know, stretching Knight's contract is not the best option. But if you do the numbers, its only $6,270,536 per season.

Current
Season / Age / Salary
2017-18 / 25 / $13,618,750
2018-19 / 26 / $14,631,250
2019-20 / 27 / $15,643,750

Knight's Contract Stretched (remaining years (3) x 2 + 1 year = 7 years)
Season / Salary
2017-18 / $6,270,536
2018-19 / $6,270,536
2019-20 / $6,270,536
2020-21 / $6,270,536
2021-22 / $6,270,536
2022-23 / $6,270,536
2023-24 / $6,270,536

The best option is obviously to get out of the contract but the Suns will probably need to take on an equal contract (change of scenery for 2 players). Maybe its insured and Sarver gets his Insurance Paid Contract like he did with Okafor

Nicholson was set to make $19.9 million over the next three seasons. That salary will now be spread evenly over the next seven seasons, per the rules of the stretch provision, meaning the Blazers will owe Nicholson $2.84 million annually until 2024. Crabbe was set to make over $56 million over the next three seasons. https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/7/25/16027112/nba-trade-allen-crabbe-to-brooklyn-nets-for-andrew-nicholson-portland-trail-blazers

[AtheJ415]

I posted this a while ago, but I think it needs to be looked at again.

I know, stretching Knight's contract is not the best option. But if you do the numbers, its only $6,270,536 per season.

Current
Season / Age / Salary
2017-18 / 25 / $13,618,750
2018-19 / 26 / $14,631,250
2019-20 / 27 / $15,643,750

Knight's Contract Stretched (remaining years (3) x 2 + 1 year = 7 years)
Season / Salary
2017-18 / $6,270,536
2018-19 / $6,270,536
2019-20 / $6,270,536
2020-21 / $6,270,536
2021-22 / $6,270,536
2022-23 / $6,270,536
2023-24 / $6,270,536

The best option is obviously to get out of the contract but the Suns will probably need to take on an equal contract (change of scenery for 2 players). Maybe its insured and Sarver gets his Insurance Paid Contract like he did with Okafor

Nicholson was set to make $19.9 million over the next three seasons. That salary will now be spread evenly over the next seven seasons, per the rules of the stretch provision, meaning the Blazers will owe Nicholson $2.84 million annually until 2024. Crabbe was set to make over $56 million over the next three seasons. https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/7/25/16027112/nba-trade-allen-crabbe-to-brooklyn-nets-for-andrew-nicholson-portland-trail-blazers

Why? Why even stretch Knight? We don't have players waiting in the wings who we would go after in FA if he was off the books. There is just no point in it. All it does is lengthen the time of the mistake. I don't want 5% of our cap space gone for the next 6 years. To me that just compounds the Knight error. At best this would be an option next year and only if somebody actually stated they wanted to sign here but we needed the space.

[ATTL]

I posted this a while ago, but I think it needs to be looked at again.

I know, stretching Knight's contract is not the best option. But if you do the numbers, its only $6,270,536 per season.

Current
Season / Age / Salary
2017-18 / 25 / $13,618,750
2018-19 / 26 / $14,631,250
2019-20 / 27 / $15,643,750

Knight's Contract Stretched (remaining years (3) x 2 + 1 year = 7 years)
Season / Salary
2017-18 / $6,270,536
2018-19 / $6,270,536
2019-20 / $6,270,536
2020-21 / $6,270,536
2021-22 / $6,270,536
2022-23 / $6,270,536
2023-24 / $6,270,536

The best option is obviously to get out of the contract but the Suns will probably need to take on an equal contract (change of scenery for 2 players). Maybe its insured and Sarver gets his Insurance Paid Contract like he did with Okafor

Nicholson was set to make $19.9 million over the next three seasons. That salary will now be spread evenly over the next seven seasons, per the rules of the stretch provision, meaning the Blazers will owe Nicholson $2.84 million annually until 2024. Crabbe was set to make over $56 million over the next three seasons. https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/7/25/16027112/nba-trade-allen-crabbe-to-brooklyn-nets-for-andrew-nicholson-portland-trail-blazers

I'll consider stretching him after this season. We aren't using that extra cap space this summer anyways. He can't whine about not getting minutes if he's rehabbing.

[AtheJ415]

That's really sad about BK.

But now I wonder: would Knight's contract now be slightly useful to an over the cap team? Like if Houston traded Anderson for Knight, they'd create some cap space due to the difference in annual salary and be able to add the $6.8m disabled player exception to their total cap space as well?

Why would we want Anderson? If we are trading Knight, we should be trading for a shorter contract, or a lesser one--not one of the same duration that is even larger.

[jcsunsfan]

Nah, dude. You rehab Brandon Knight. You continue to be kind. Hopefully, he can put things back together for himself. That would start by being a productive player off the bench. You just hold and keep playing the long game, because that's the best game in this town.

Booker and Jackson gonna terrorize teams one day. Bender's gonna come off the bench one day and nail four straight threes, ending a game in the second or third quarter. Ulis is going to have that month where he averages 10 APG on a 5:1 A/TO.

BK's injury effects basically nothing from the Suns POV. Worst case scenario was BK being a very unhappy camper. That possibility has basically been eliminated. And that's that.

yup, cutting him or hanging him out to dry after an injury would be a bad look.

There is no point in doing so for the team. But there is nothing wrong with doing it with regard to BK. When you waive an NBA player, you still have to pay him his full contract. He get's paid but then he has no team obligations. He can play wherever he wants and he gets two paychecks, one from the Suns and one from wherever he pays. Its not a bad look at all. Players benefit from being cut. This isn't the NFL.

[jcsunsfan]

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Chris Vernon has the most annoying voice in the world.

"The suns need to trade bledsoe, josh Jackson, unprotected Miami pick, and Tyler ulis for kyrie."

Two minutes later
"Carmelo for Irving straight up makes sense for both teams"

Wow. Melo has like negative trade value almost everywhere in the league. Bledsoe, Warren or Chriss and a pick. Final offer.

[Saberestar]

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