ImageImageImage

Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion

Moderators: bwgood77, lilfishi22, Qwigglez

User avatar
Kerrsed
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 29,876
And1: 16,578
Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Location: Land of the Internet Memes
Contact:
     

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1401 » by Kerrsed » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:07 am

TASTIC wrote:I'd be hitting FA bargains right now.

Throw a 2yr offer at Ian Clark - championship experience, legit 3pt shooter and still young enough at 26yr.

If they want another vet voice to mop up minutes someone like Randy Foye could be useful, or another young-ish guy like Demetrius Jackson or a defence first guy like Ndour.

Of course they can always sign my unicorn KJ McDaniels ;)

There are some solid names still out there:

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2017


We could snag Kendall Marshall. He did great in the Summer League.

Image
Its #DUMPSTERFIRE SEASON! #TeamTRAINWRECK -KERRSED- The Mod, The Myth, The Legend
Image
User avatar
sunsbum
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,539
And1: 5,396
Joined: May 16, 2007
Location: Portland
     

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1402 » by sunsbum » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:13 am

yea i dont think a bledsoe trade has anything to do with bk
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 98,145
And1: 61,002
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1403 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:14 am

Burt must not have meant 5:45 Pacific Time either. He must be in Hawaii.

Read on Twitter
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,787
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1404 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:14 am

Marshall and Fox and really anyone playing PG in the NBA is Ball's kryptonite.
Image
User avatar
LukasBMW
Suns Forum SlamDRUNK Contributor
Posts: 4,827
And1: 4,291
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Location: Phoenix AZ & San Diego CA
 

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1405 » by LukasBMW » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:26 am

nymets1 wrote:SInce Brandon Knight is going to be out for quite a while now, I would think you guys have to keep Eric Bledsoe so I think you have to pull Bledsoe from trade talks.


If we trade Bledsoe, we are either getting a young and upcoming PG back in the trade that better fits our timeline and we will roll with a very young backourt OR we are getting Irving back.

The Knight injury should not effect the Bledsoe situation.
Image
Phystic
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,000
And1: 2,752
Joined: Jul 06, 2009
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1406 » by Phystic » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:34 am

phrazbit wrote:I want some people to be honest with themselves here.

Take Bledsoe and (probably) Jackson off the team, put Kyrie on. Does that team compete? Is that team even a playoff team? Even if you really really like Kyrie the answer to the first question is heeeeeeell no, the answer to the 2nd is; probably not.

If you trade for him... that is you're team. The idea that he is going to lure another star is really far fetched for a lot of reasons. Chief of them being a superstar isn't going to be eager to join a 35 win team being led by a guy who shots 20 times per game and just forced his way off a title contender because his top 5 usage rate wasn't enough for his liking.

Also, I say probably Jackson because I doubt Cleveland has any interest at all in Warren. Cleveland will not be keen on dropping 15 mil (over 30 mil with their lux tax) to keep him next summer.



I don't think other players necessarily view this as him not getting the fame or usage he wants. I think most players realize Lebron is priming the team to bail and Irving wanting out before the dumpster is set on fire seems completely fair. I don't think these stars that are all demanding trades are going to look down on Irving for demanding a trade.

And I also don't think it's fair to simply say we won't compete right away if we get him so what's the point. By that logic we never should have traded for Bledsoe in the first place. And the Suns don't appear to have any interest in trading Jackson. Otherwise the trade would already be complete I feel. I think its a matter of would you rather resign Bledsoe and Warren to large contracts and hope our current youth turns into stars(while also having to find a way to pay them all), or would you rather consolidate a few pieces to get an upgrade at PG. Despite what people are saying in this thread, Irving IS an upgrade over Bledsoe. Talentwise at least. Despite his short comings he's still the better player. Now arguing that he doesn't fit our team make-up is completely fair and valid.

I personally would probably rather not get Irving but try to facilitate (while sending Bledsoe to Cleveland) a trade that nets us a young PG that fits our rosters timeline.
Sunzgunz
Sophomore
Posts: 210
And1: 125
Joined: May 13, 2017

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1407 » by Sunzgunz » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:34 am

bwgood77 wrote:Burt must not have meant 5:45 Pacific Time either. He must be in Hawaii.

Read on Twitter


That's what we get for trusting a guy whose initials are B.S.! :)
User avatar
Joel Embust
Head Coach
Posts: 6,801
And1: 3,056
Joined: Feb 11, 2005
         

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1408 » by Joel Embust » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:07 am

Davon "Ready" Reed.

4 year college player, impressive summer league, ideal skillset as a 3 and D guard off the bench. If he can impress in camp + preseason, he'll be the primary backup to Devin Booker from start to finish.
Image
carey
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,192
And1: 1,941
Joined: Feb 12, 2009
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
     

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1409 » by carey » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:19 am

Shank wrote:Kendall looks like a terrorist


How do we down vote something? We need a -1.
User avatar
TOO
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,259
And1: 1,311
Joined: Jul 02, 2013

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1410 » by TOO » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:56 am

Shank wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:We could snag Kendall Marshall. He did great in the Summer League.

Image


Kendall looks like a terrorist


Shame people still think like this.
Shank
Ballboy
Posts: 33
And1: 37
Joined: Jul 25, 2017
     

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1411 » by Shank » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:57 am

carey wrote:
Shank wrote:Kendall looks like a terrorist


How do we down vote something? We need a -1.


keep dreaming
DirtyDez
Suns Forum College Scout
Posts: 17,177
And1: 6,908
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: the Arizona desert

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1412 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:02 am

Two talks are likely dead according to Gambo but 3-way talks with Kyrie going elsewhere once rookie are trade eligible may heat up. It will be interesting to see if Denver is willing to give up Jamal Murray for Irving since they're been making some win-now moves.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 98,145
And1: 61,002
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1413 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:05 am

Shank wrote:
carey wrote:
Shank wrote:Kendall looks like a terrorist


How do we down vote something? We need a -1.


keep dreaming


Lets get back on topic and please don't make accusations/statements regarding things like terrorism based on someone's appearance or ethnicity.
DowJones
RealGM
Posts: 16,514
And1: 7,547
Joined: Feb 22, 2008

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1414 » by DowJones » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:07 am

Cleveland fan here---I am not thrilled with the idea of Bledsoe to Cleveland but it doesn't seem like you guys really want Irving and you are more interested in being part of a larger deal. What type of value are you looking for him? Would you be ok with a late first and salary filler for him or do you have your eyes on whatever the main piece is in a Kyrie deal?
DowJones
RealGM
Posts: 16,514
And1: 7,547
Joined: Feb 22, 2008

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1415 » by DowJones » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:09 am

DirtyDez wrote:Two talks are likely dead according to Gambo but 3-way talks with Kyrie going elsewhere once rookie are trade eligible may heat up. It will be interesting to see if Denver is willing to give up Jamal Murray for Irving since they're been making some win-now moves.


This is what Cleveland may have in mind. Maybe Murray/Chandler/Bledsoe to Cleveland with a Denver first/Shumpert to Phoenix?
JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1416 » by JMac1 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:09 am

Funny......Bledsoe Booker JJ James and Tyson......

Better than anything in LA. If Booker takes the next step and JJ plays very well, could happen. Bledsoe likes it here.
carey
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,192
And1: 1,941
Joined: Feb 12, 2009
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
     

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1417 » by carey » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:11 am

DowJones wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Two talks are likely dead according to Gambo but 3-way talks with Kyrie going elsewhere once rookie are trade eligible may heat up. It will be interesting to see if Denver is willing to give up Jamal Murray for Irving since they're been making some win-now moves.


This is what Cleveland may have in mind. Maybe Murray/Chandler/Bledsoe to Cleveland with a Denver first/Shumpert to Phoenix?


Bledsoe is a 20/5/6 guy. We're not taking crap salary and a late first, mate.
Shank
Ballboy
Posts: 33
And1: 37
Joined: Jul 25, 2017
     

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1418 » by Shank » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:20 am

carey wrote:
DowJones wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Two talks are likely dead according to Gambo but 3-way talks with Kyrie going elsewhere once rookie are trade eligible may heat up. It will be interesting to see if Denver is willing to give up Jamal Murray for Irving since they're been making some win-now moves.


This is what Cleveland may have in mind. Maybe Murray/Chandler/Bledsoe to Cleveland with a Denver first/Shumpert to Phoenix?


Bledsoe is a 20/5/6 guy. We're not taking crap salary and a late first, mate.


Attaboy mate. Anyway I can +1 this post more than once?
JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1419 » by JMac1 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:22 am

DowJones wrote:Cleveland fan here---I am not thrilled with the idea of Bledsoe to Cleveland but it doesn't seem like you guys really want Irving and you are more interested in being part of a larger deal. What type of value are you looking for him? Would you be ok with a late first and salary filler for him or do you have your eyes on whatever the main piece is in a Kyrie deal?



We really want Irving?! Where did you get that idea. If we can get a good deal, of course, anyone would.
DirtyDez
Suns Forum College Scout
Posts: 17,177
And1: 6,908
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: the Arizona desert

Re: Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 

Post#1420 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:23 am

DowJones wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Two talks are likely dead according to Gambo but 3-way talks with Kyrie going elsewhere once rookie are trade eligible may heat up. It will be interesting to see if Denver is willing to give up Jamal Murray for Irving since they're been making some win-now moves.


This is what Cleveland may have in mind. Maybe Murray/Chandler/Bledsoe to Cleveland with a Denver first/Shumpert to Phoenix?


Just talking Denver/Cleveland straight up. In terms of 3-ways probably Ntilikina or Brogdon to Phoenix since those two could be landing spots for KYrie.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.

Return to Phoenix Suns