Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 4.0 Team Byke Ollinky Added

Dr_Heat · Post #1701 » by **Dr_Heat** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:59 pm

Could be dragic telling the haters he's staying and to stop hatin cause he's rolling in the streets of Miami for a while

gom · Post #1702 » by **gom** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:26 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Don't believe we can trade them though, gotta keep one every second year if you trade the other. Could only deal them on draft night after making the pick. I'd happily be mistaken though.

2023 pick is the earliest one we can deal. Been confirmed plenty of times already.

And the reason why is called the Stepien Rule:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89

Essentially you cannot trade your consecutive future first round picks. Stepien was GM of the Cavs who traded five consecutive first round picks from the Cavs. The league actually made a rule that his future trades needed league approval. How bad was he?

You decide:

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #1703 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:33 pm

Lmao need to make a Billy King Rule next

Zasterror · Post #1704 » by **Zasterror** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:53 pm

It's pretty silly and unrealistic to think we have a shred of chance getting Kyrie. We don't have to pieces, nor the drafts, plus we are in the same Conference as the Cavs, and Gilbert hates Riley. No way this is getting done.

radikalBaller · Post #1705 » by **radikalBaller** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:21 pm

Honestly, I would prefer we keep our team intact, I think we can make a run at the east with all those teams getting weaker. Cavs is about to be a mess in the locker room, and boston is all hype, I think we can beat anyone in the east, I believe in those guys...

gom · Post #1706 » by **gom** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:24 pm

Zasterror wrote:It's pretty silly and unrealistic to think we have a shred of chance getting Kyrie. We don't have to pieces, nor the drafts, plus we are in the same Conference as the Cavs, and Gilbert hates Riley. No way this is getting done.

I hope you are right because Kyrie isn't worth half of the proposals I've seen here. I admire his skills, but I don't see him as a generational player that we should build around. I greatly prefer to keep our team the way it is, prioritize improving our assets and internal growth, and prepare for a championship in a few years.

Meanwhile, the next big decision we have is what to do with J-Rich's extension. We can offer 4/$42 on Aug 3 (until Oct 15), which would look like this:

Josh Richardson (9/15/93)

2018-2019: $9,375,000 (25 yo start of season)
2019-2020: $10,125,000 (26)
2020-2021: $10,875,000 (27)
2021-2022: $11,625,000 (28)

If we don't resign him this season, he is RFA next season and will make whatever the market dictates. We can match, but likely at a much higher rate.

radikalBaller · Post #1707 » by **radikalBaller** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:26 pm

The addition of an healthy and improved winslow, okaro, bam, olynyk, walton jr, matt williams will prove to be much greater than expected...

RexBoyWonder · Post #1708 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:57 pm

Man **** the Cavs.

More then wanting Kyrie, I just want to see them implode.

Kyrie is a great scorer, not that great of a player. He's not the best player on a championship team. You want him on your team, but u cant gut the team for him, he's not in that special tier that transforms a roster.

Let's see GM Lebron solve this clusterfu@k he created.

J-House · Post #1709 » by **J-House** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:07 pm

I don't think Cleveland will trade Kyrie to us but it's not a big deal because we can just try to get him in FA in a couple of years. He'll be 27 when his contract is up and we'll definitely have a chance to get him seeing as we were 1 of the 4 teams he preferred.

Bishop45 · Post #1710 » by **Bishop45** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:17 pm

Only way we could get Kyrie is to overpay, which I'm not trying to see. Bledsoe, Warren is likely the best Cavs could hope for

Current team would've been a great fit for Kyrie (w/Dragic at least), dn't care where he ends up, just want to see some Woj clouds

ThaFranchize84 · Post #1711 » by **ThaFranchize84** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:25 pm

J-House wrote:I don't think Cleveland will trade Kyrie to us but it's not a big deal because we can just try to get him in FA in a couple of years. He'll be 27 when his contract is up and we'll definitely have a chance to get him seeing as we were 1 of the 4 teams he preferred.

Agree with this 100%. If they don't and he ends up being dealt to a team outside of his preferred 4 teams it could happen. What is our cap situation in 2 summers? I don't know if we will even have space with our signings this offseason.

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Jonathan2323 · Post #1712 » by **Jonathan2323** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:31 pm

Ramona Shelbourne has kyrie coming to the HEAT.

That's her prediction

islandHEAT · Post #1713 » by **islandHEAT** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:05 pm

If CLE wants Hassan for Kyrie, think Pat could pull this off and would NO go for it? (throw in a Winslow if need be)

eddieheatfan · Post #1714 » by **eddieheatfan** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:09 pm

Jonathan2323 wrote:Ramona Shelbourne has kyrie coming to the HEAT.

That's her prediction

source,pls?

Jonathan2323 · Post #1715 » by **Jonathan2323** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:17 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:
Jonathan2323 wrote:Ramona Shelbourne has kyrie coming to the HEAT.

That's her prediction
source,pls?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20153424/blame-cleveland-cavaliers-chaotic-offseason

It's in the article above

Jonathan2323 · Post #1716 » by **Jonathan2323** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:37 pm

Read on Twitter

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #1717 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:46 pm

I think our best chance of acquiring Myrie is to trade for him next summer when he's demanding out of Phoenix. We gotta play the long game with this whale fam

Post #1718 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:54 pm

Read on Twitter

Shaved Johnson

tria · Post #1719 » by **tria** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:09 pm

Jonathan2323 wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:
Jonathan2323 wrote:Ramona Shelbourne has kyrie coming to the HEAT.

That's her prediction
source,pls?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20153424/blame-cleveland-cavaliers-chaotic-offseason

It's in the article above

Each reporter picked one of the most likely options out there. Setting the scene for incoming "as espn reporter <insert name> predicted, irving decided to...". Can't miss if you bet on all.

Post #1720 » by **GameTime_3** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:26 pm

Here is a trade that I think Cleve would be intersted in;

Goran, Richardson, TJ and Ellington along with 5million to buyout Ellington if they like for;

Irving, Shump and Frye.

This would free up about 10million in space but save them about 20 million due to cap hit, while proving them with a Starting PG for next few years, a young Wing in TJ and a role player in Richardson for future.

Heat have to eat some money this year but get Irving and a good 6th man in Shump who already plays Miami HEAT Defense. Frye could then be moved for guard.

Hassan-Kelly O-UD
JJ-Bam
Winslow-McGruder
Waiters-Shump
Irving