Markelle Fultz Discussion

[76ciology]

Don't make promises you are not willing to keep.

He's a BIG BALLER ok?

Once he buy us all ZO2s he'll change his username from unbreakable99 to BROKEable00

Maybe I'll change my name to BALLable2

F2B faithful to the ball



Need to have that on ink like with our emo rookie. Hahaha

[Unbreakable99]

Is Fultz officially number 20?

[LloydFree]

I'm a big baller. I fell in love with Ball the first time I saw him play. This was before anyone knew who his dad was. There was no dad hype back then. I had an unbiased opinion and knew he was the guy. I'll buy everyone on this site big baller sneakers if he wins ROY. If Fultz has a better rookie season than Ball I'll make a t-shirt that says F2G Fultz > Ball. I don't see that's happening though

That's a tough bet. Damone Stoudemire once beat out Kevin Garnett for rookie of the year. The best talent doesnt always win ROY. Personally I think Simmons will win it because he will have the most impact on the most winning. That is, of the teams that have good rookies. But if the Lakers are better than last year, Ball will have a good case.

True. Simmons should win ROY if he plays like I think he will. I still can't see Fultz having a better rookie year than Ball though. Ball has the keys to the team and will play a lot of minutes. Fultz will be the 4th option in the starting unit and doesn't have the keys. He might impress me and play out of this world. We'll see.

Yeah, it's logical to think the player with the biggest role will win the ROY, but it can work against him too. As a rookie, Fultz is in a better position to succeed, by being a 3rd or 4th option and not a focal point. Lonzo Ball will likely shoot less than 42%, like the typical one-and-done guard. But because he will probably shoot an inordinate amount of 3 pointers, he could easily shoot 37% or less. Between a low FG% and all of the turnovers he has as the primary ball handler, that could easily overshadow the points and assists he's going to pile up. Fultz won't have near the assists, but he'll probably have the PPG, and less turnovers, due to not having the ball other than in shooting situations.

[Chris76]

That's a tough bet. Damone Stoudemire once beat out Kevin Garnett for rookie of the year. The best talent doesnt always win ROY. Personally I think Simmons will win it because he will have the most impact on the most winning. That is, of the teams that have good rookies. But if the Lakers are better than last year, Ball will have a good case.

True. Simmons should win ROY if he plays like I think he will. I still can't see Fultz having a better rookie year than Ball though. Ball has the keys to the team and will play a lot of minutes. Fultz will be the 4th option in the starting unit and doesn't have the keys. He might impress me and play out of this world. We'll see.

Yeah, it's logical to think the player with the biggest role will win the ROY, but it can work against him too. As a rookie, Fultz is in a better position to succeed, by being a 3rd or 4th option and not a focal point. Lonzo Ball will likely shoot less than 42%, like the typical one-and-done guard. But because he will probably shoot an inordinate amount of 3 pointers, he could easily shoot 37% or less. Between a low FG% and all of the turnovers he has as the primary ball handler, that could easily overshadow the points and assists he's going to pile up. Fultz won't have near the assists, but he'll probably have the PPG, and less turnovers, due to not having the ball other than in shooting situations.

Good comparisons. Imagine Embiid setting a pick and Simmons + Fultz attacking, defenders are gonna have difficulty with them. Fultz' shooting looks good when he creates for himself, it's gonna look even better with Simmons setting him up. Fultz seems like the type when he gets hot, he should make several in a row, easily.

It should be interesting the ROY race. Simmons, Fultz, Ball, Isaac, Mitchell, and others should have exciting years. Isaac could average 2.5 blocks.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Was bored so made a couple Fultz GIFs. I think his lack of athleticism is overblown. He's not Josh Jackson, he's certainly not DSJ, but he's more athletic than Lonzo Ball IMO. But man I'm excited to watch him play. His scoring instincts are special and has underrated "sneaky" athleticism. Won't regularly dunk on players, but will drop one every now and again when people don't expect it IMO.

[Mrcrockpots]

Over/under for Fultz this season

Points- 13.5
Assists- 5.5
Rebounds- 4.5
3pt%- 34.5%
TS%- 51.5%
Usage%- 19.5%

[BullyKing]

Over/under for Fultz this season

Points- 13.5
Assists- 5.5
Rebounds- 4.5
3pt%- 34.5%
TS%- 51.5%
Usage%- 19.5%

Given the number of touches already accounted for on this team, think I'm taking the under on everything but 3pt%. Maybe not usage depending on how much Brown staggers the playing time between Fultz and Simmons.

[cksdayoff]

fultz is going to average close to 20 a game by the endmof the season. the guy is use to scoring over 20 a game throughout his life and i think he does it efficiently. people are sleeping on his shooting

[Unbreakable99]

fultz is going to average close to 20 a game by the endmof the season. the guy is use to scoring over 20 a game throughout his life and i think he does it efficiently. people are sleeping on his shooting

I love your optimism and hope you're right but I don't see it. He will be fighting for shots among Simmons Embiid Redick and Covington. I think Fultz takes fewer shots than at least 2 of them.

[LloydFree]

Over/under for Fultz this season

Points- 13.5
Assists- 5.5
Rebounds- 4.5
3pt%- 34.5%
TS%- 51.5%
Usage%- 19.5%

I think Fultz can get close to most of that, except he won't average nearly that many assists. I'd take a slight under on everything else except 3pt%.

[Mrcrockpots]

Points- 13.5 - I'm going under. However, like another poster said, I'm hoping for stretches of 20ppg over a month or two.

Assists- 5.5 - Under. I don't see him handling the ball as much. I'm going under as long as Simmons is the primary ball handler.

Rebounds- 4.5 - Under. Simmons, Embiid and Saric will destroy the glass this year.

3pt%- 34.5% - Hopefully over. Fultz should have a ton of open looks at 3, and his jump shot is crazy wet.

TS%- 51.5% - Also hoping for the over, for the same reasons as 3pt%. Fultz should have a ton of open 3s, and/or wide open mid range game after a pump fake.

Usage%- 19.5%- Definitely under. I foresee Embiid and Simmons dominating the ball.

[cksdayoff]

fultz is going to average close to 20 a game by the endmof the season. the guy is use to scoring over 20 a game throughout his life and i think he does it efficiently. people are sleeping on his shooting

I love your optimism and hope you're right but I don't see it. He will be fighting for shots among Simmons Embiid Redick and Covington. I think Fultz takes fewer shots than at least 2 of them.

we took this guy #1 overall to come in and score, he'll be starting. there is no one on the roster more talented than fultz in the backcourt. his game is advanced for any age and he'll get the green light to score. I think 18 ppg is a realistic number

[mrfantast1c]

fultz is going to average close to 20 a game by the endmof the season. the guy is use to scoring over 20 a game throughout his life and i think he does it efficiently. people are sleeping on his shooting

I love your optimism and hope you're right but I don't see it. He will be fighting for shots among Simmons Embiid Redick and Covington. I think Fultz takes fewer shots than at least 2 of them.

IMO if they're really going to play him off the ball, he will easily hit the over on the points. He should average about 3 or 4 shots a quarter

[eagereyez]

Fultz is a true rookie who will be the 3rd or 4th option. 12-14 ppg seems about right. I doubt he averages 20 ppg for any large stretch of the season. He isn't going to be better than Redick and Redick has never averaged more than 16 ppg. I'm looking for Fultz to have good shooting splits and some much improved defensive awareness.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I used to think guys numbers would drop, but there are plenty of points to go around. For example, Embiid might get less touches because he was our primary scoring option last year, but with more minutes he'll get more points, and with better guys on the court, the touches he does get will be in better scoring positions, so his game will probably be even more efficient. So I actually expect his ppg to go up.

Unless you're a super ball dominant player who averages like 28ppg, I don't think players on this team will need to sacrifice many points. Fultz certainly could average in the upper teens scoring-wise. Might be a little slow to start as this team builds chemistry(they started slow last year at 0-8) but as they get comfortable with each other, this team will move the ball really well. Embiid, Simmons, Fultz are all really good passers. Guys will get open looks, easy baskets. I'll take the high end on Fultz's ppg. Simmons is the guy who may not score as much right out of the gate as he continues to get comfortable with his jumper. I expect most of his points through January to be 10 feet and in.

[Unbreakable99]

Is Fultz officially #20?

[eagereyez]

18 FGA - Embiid
17 FGA - Simmons
12 FGA - Redick
11 FGA - Fultz
10 FGA - Covington

That's my prediction for how the shots will be spread among the starters.

[Cheatergriffin]

18 FGA - Embiid
17 FGA - Simmons
12 FGA - Redick
11 FGA - Fultz
10 FGA - Covington

That's my prediction for how the shots will be spread among the starters.

I know bens gonna have ball in his hands alot but id be beyond shocked if he took 17 shots a game. I see ben more with 10-11fga and fultz 14-16fga.

[eagereyez]

18 FGA - Embiid
17 FGA - Simmons
12 FGA - Redick
11 FGA - Fultz
10 FGA - Covington

That's my prediction for how the shots will be spread among the starters.

I know bens gonna have ball in his hands alot but id be beyond shocked if he took 17 shots a game. I see ben more with 10-11fga and fultz 14-16fga.

CP3 has only averaged less than 12 FGA once in his entire career. Simmons will at least average more than 12. He is a beast at drawing fouls, which means he will attack the basket, hence Brown having him focus on his FTs. He is more of an attacking PG like Westbrook or Lebron than a floor general like CP3 or Kidd. I'd be very surprised if Fultz took more FGA than Simmons.

Here are some comparisons of guys at age 21:

17.6 FGA - Rose
16.8 FGA - Griffin
14.1 FGA - Westbrook
13.5 FGA - Wall

So a range of 14-18 FGA seems about right. I think I'll meet in the middle and change my prediction to 16 FGA.

[LloydFree]

18 FGA - Embiid
17 FGA - Simmons
12 FGA - Redick
11 FGA - Fultz
10 FGA - Covington

That's my prediction for how the shots will be spread among the starters.

My prediction is Bayless will get a lot more time than people think and will get as many minutes and shots as Fultz in his rookie season. Brown's​ not going to sit there and lose games, with multiple rookies playing 30 minutes per game this year.