The Greek National Team thread

greekbuck34 · Post #21 » by **greekbuck34** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:11 pm

In theory we have a good starting lineup with a somewhat decent depth in the bench but that's something usual for Greece NT.
This is the first time that we have Giannis in proper superstar mode though...
It's also nice to have a normal even though mediocre at worst coach and not some Joker like the last 2 tournaments with his stupid progressive experiments.

I expect an above average defense when Bouroussis sits on the bench, good ball movement and Giannis brilliance to give us a medal as long as we won't face Serbia/France/Spain early in the knockouts.

Diggr14 · Post #22 » by **Diggr14** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:33 pm

Just surround Giannis with shooters... saddle up, and win Eurobasket.

yannisk · Post #23 » by **yannisk** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:37 pm

Forwards: Giannis, Printezis, Papapetrou, Papanikolaou, Thanasis
This is the strongest part of the team.

Guards: Matzaris, Sloukas, Calathes, Pappas
Not too bad, but missing the big personalities of the past

Centers: Bourousis, Papagiannis
The weakest position. I don't think Papa is ready and Bourousis is getting old

As usual no great shooters in the team, there are a few that can hit an open 3p. I expect to see lots of small ball with Giannis or some other forward playing center.

Greek · Post #24 » by **Greek** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:49 pm

Diggr14 wrote:Just surround Giannis with shooters... saddle up, and win Eurobasket.

Easy to say that but hard to do it. Dorsey and Mitoglou are deadly shooters from SG/PF but young, will not make the team. Still our next gen won the gold medal at U20 without Papajohn and K. Andeto. Charalampopoulos won the MVP, great great all around F who is slow but can shoot. Koniaris a 6'4 strong combo guard who can also shoot had a great tournament too, so I guess that if not this year, the next 5-6 Giannis will be the leader of an NT that will win a medal

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thomchatt3rton · Post #25 » by **thomchatt3rton** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:03 pm

Greek wrote:
Diggr14 wrote:Just surround Giannis with shooters... saddle up, and win Eurobasket.

Easy to say that but hard to do it. Dorsey and Mitoglou are deadly shooters from SG/PF but young, will not make the team. Still our next gen won the gold medal at U20 without Papajohn and K. Andeto. Charalampopoulos won the MVP, great great all around F who is slow but can shoot. Koniaris a 6'4 strong combo guard who can also shoot had a great tournament too, so I guess that if not this year, the next 5-6 Giannis will be the leader of an NT that will win a medal

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Idk much about it, but I feel like this won't be the year we truly see Giannis Unleashed with the GNT. Not yet.
His game doesnt seem to translate super great to Euro ball (i.e., cant shoot, thrives in transition).
Excited as hell to see him and the whole team play. Go Greece!

Beorn · Post #26 » by **Beorn** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:03 pm

I disagree with GB34 regarding the coach, he's an old guy whose specialization is developing younger players and had only a mediocre career as a club coach (hasn't coached in club level since 2006). Did a very good job with the u20, u18 and Women's teams in the past but the only reason we brought him was that he was cheap

He can't be worse than Katsikaris at any rate!

Post #27 » by **Prez** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:06 pm

no shooting improvement this summer confirmed

Wiscfan92 · Post #28 » by **Wiscfan92** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:10 pm

I wanna watch when they can get all the Antetokounbros playing together

greekbuck34 · Post #29 » by **greekbuck34** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:18 pm

Beorn wrote:I disagree with GB34 regarding the coach, he's an old guy whose specialization is developing younger players and had only a mediocre career as a club coach (hasn't coached in club level since 2006). Did a very good job with the u20, u18 and Women's teams in the past but the only reason we brought him was that he was cheap He can't be worse than Katsikaris at any rate!

That's what I said. He is just a normal mediocre coach which is still more preferable than Katsikaris and his progressive ideas which don't fit at all with our DNA. This time we know what to expect..

Pachinko_ · Post #30 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:47 pm

Prince12 wrote:Australia > Greece

are we talking milfs or basketball?

blazza18 · Post #31 » by **blazza18** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:49 pm

Prez wrote:no shooting improvement this summer confirmed

This shouldn't be green font after the video that was posted yesterday.

Pachinko_ · Post #32 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:10 pm

No Jokic, Gobert or Batum this year, not sure about KP. I kind of just lost half my interest in the tournament

Spain is a full squad with all 4 Hernangomez & Gasol brothers, Rubio, Abrines, Lull and Mirotic. Clearly the team to beat this summer.
Latvia could be good as well if KP joins.

greekbuck34 · Post #33 » by **greekbuck34** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:25 pm

blazza18 wrote:
Prez wrote:no shooting improvement this summer confirmed

This shouldn't be green font after the video that was posted yesterday.

The one where Giannis was shooting FTs from 3 point range on a Philippinize size backboard?

Magic Giannison · Post #34 » by **Magic Giannison** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:20 pm

This is the first time i see anyone comparing Rubio to Sloukas, Sloukas is so much much better scorer and shooter its not funny.
Mantzaris isnt 3 and 3, he is a defensive specialist ,he can make some shots but nowhere near the definition of 3 and d.

Missing Dorsey hurts but i hope this new coah will play a less frustrating system compared to Katsikaris and we will do fin e.

thomchatt3rton · Post #35 » by **thomchatt3rton** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:40 am

How will Giannis be used by the NT this summer? Greek fans who know, what can we expect? What kind of role do you envision? What kind of usage? How do you see him used in the offense? Will they form the offense around his skills or will he be posted up in the corner again in half-court?

Bernman · Post #36 » by **Bernman** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:00 am

Prez wrote:no shooting improvement this summer confirmed

That should only be in half green, because there is some truth to the statement. He's not going to be as focused on improving that skill this way. His summer is split-up, again, as it was in previous summers when he didn't come around in that particular department. From that 3 pt shooting contest video, it looks like he still needs all the work he can get.

Pachinko_ · Post #37 » by **Pachinko_** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:42 am

Bernman wrote:
Prez wrote:no shooting improvement this summer confirmed

That should only be in half green, because there is some truth to the statement. He's not going to be as focused on improving that skill this way. His summer is split-up, again, as it was in previous summers when he didn't come around in that particular department. From that 3 pt shooting contest video, it looks like he still needs all the work he can get.

I don't think he likes doing that, sitting in a gym by himself for months. It looks like he prefers variety and games.

BadWolf · Post #38 » by **BadWolf** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:48 am

Strong group.
Couldn't Thanasis start at center?

Greek · Post #39 » by **Greek** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:38 am

BadWolf wrote:Strong group.
Couldn't Thanasis start at center?

Thanassis future is a small ball PF, or even C, like Pietrus (the brother of the former NBA player), but he still thinks that he is a swingman. PAO coach and NT coach will do wonders for him.

Chuck Diesel · Post #40 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:10 am

The squad is made up of Giannis and guys who got cut from Macedonian National Team tryouts. :wink: