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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1501 » by machu46 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:16 pm

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It says at home in South Florida. THat's **** up anyway you look at it. In a pickup game, or goofing around and trying dunks, or whatever. Just sucks. The good thing is he got paid, but sucks for him and sucks for the Suns stuck with that contract.

Pretty much why I decided to stop worrying if something happens to Giannis while playing for the NT
Khris got half his ass unstuck by stepping on sweat in practice last year, and now Knight blew a knee while making a sandwich or something. **** it he may as well play basketball.


Knight's injury occurred in a Pro-Am game though.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1502 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:24 pm

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It says at home in South Florida. THat's **** up anyway you look at it. In a pickup game, or goofing around and trying dunks, or whatever. Just sucks. The good thing is he got paid, but sucks for him and sucks for the Suns stuck with that contract.

Pretty much why I decided to stop worrying if something happens to Giannis while playing for the NT
Khris got half his ass unstuck by stepping on sweat in practice last year, and now Knight blew a knee while making a sandwich or something. **** it he may as well play basketball.


Knight's injury occurred in a Pro-Am game though.

I'm not familiar
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1503 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:16 am

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"Rose tried hard to get top Western Conference teams to sign him—the San Antonio Spurs, the L.A. Clippers—but those teams passed," he wrote. "Milwaukee Bucks head coach Jason Kidd had interest, but the Los Angeles Lakers and Cavaliers eventually made offers."

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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1504 » by drat456 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:20 am

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"Rose tried hard to get top Western Conference teams to sign him—the San Antonio Spurs, the L.A. Clippers—but those teams passed," he wrote. "Milwaukee Bucks head coach Jason Kidd had interest, but the Los Angeles Lakers and Cavaliers eventually made offers."



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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1505 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:29 am

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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1506 » by Frank Nova » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:05 am

Bledsoe camp doesn't even want a trade to Cleveland knowing Lebron is gone after this season and Phoenix isn't offering Jackson in a Kyrie trade. I'd say you can probably scratch PHX off the list of suitors for Kyrie.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1507 » by trwi7 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:15 am

He considers the Clippers a top team? Oh right, forgot this is the same guy who said the Knicks were a super team last year.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1508 » by tedbrogen » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:22 am

weezybaby856 wrote:Bledsoe camp doesn't even want a trade to Cleveland knowing Lebron is gone after this season and Phoenix isn't offering Jackson in a Kyrie trade. I'd say you can probably scratch PHX off the list of suitors for Kyrie.


Interesting. Sounds like they won't deal with the Wolves unless they get Wiggins back, so hopefully the Wolves refuse to budge. Then just need Pop to decide he doesn't like Kyrie's attitude and it's down to the Bucks and Knicks, and the Bucks can definitely offer more assets (assuming both Giannis and KP are untouchable in any deals). Seriously, if they want Middleton and Parker as the center pieces, deal. Middleton is a really nice #3 for about two more seasons before he gets max or near max money. Parker is either going to comeback a shell of his former self and be worthless or going to show enough flashes that he gets maxed. Zero interest in maxing either one of them. Flip them while they have value for a guy perceived to be a star and hope that attracts one more star to want to join Giannis and Kyrie. Hope Snell can give you 50-75% of what Middleton did.

Kyrie is a nice fit next to Giannis because he can shoot, can create his own shot so Giannis can rest some on offense, and can takeover down the stretch when Giannis is either gassed or just not hitting free throws. Giannis can be a one man zone on defense to cover up for Kyrie's flaws. Also, Giannis desperately needs to play with quicker guards that can push the pace so he can vulture those easy buckets in the open court.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1509 » by BucksRule18 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:25 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:Bledsoe camp doesn't even want a trade to Cleveland knowing Lebron is gone after this season and Phoenix isn't offering Jackson in a Kyrie trade. I'd say you can probably scratch PHX off the list of suitors for Kyrie.


Phoenix not offering Jackson is definitely the deal breaker, but whether or not Bledsoe's camp thinks the trade is a bad idea, doesn't really matter much. He doesn't have a no-trade clause, so Phoenix can deal him to any team they want.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1510 » by Frank Nova » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:13 pm

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weezybaby856 wrote:Bledsoe camp doesn't even want a trade to Cleveland knowing Lebron is gone after this season and Phoenix isn't offering Jackson in a Kyrie trade. I'd say you can probably scratch PHX off the list of suitors for Kyrie.


Phoenix not offering Jackson is definitely the deal breaker, but whether or not Bledsoe's camp thinks the trade is a bad idea, doesn't really matter much. He doesn't have a no-trade clause, so Phoenix can deal him to any team they want.


Yeah obviously Bledsoe doesn't have a lot of leverage to dictate a specific trade but it certainly hurts his value if Cleveland already knows they're gonna 1. Lose Lebron and 2 trade Kyrie for someone that's just a bandaid until he's a free agent and leaves as well. Cleveland essentially has no incentive to even talk with Phoenix if both pieces they want in return for Kyrie are basically off the table short term and long term.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1511 » by BucksRule18 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:37 pm

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weezybaby856 wrote:Bledsoe camp doesn't even want a trade to Cleveland knowing Lebron is gone after this season and Phoenix isn't offering Jackson in a Kyrie trade. I'd say you can probably scratch PHX off the list of suitors for Kyrie.


Phoenix not offering Jackson is definitely the deal breaker, but whether or not Bledsoe's camp thinks the trade is a bad idea, doesn't really matter much. He doesn't have a no-trade clause, so Phoenix can deal him to any team they want.


Yeah obviously Bledsoe doesn't have a lot of leverage to dictate a specific trade but it certainly hurts his value if Cleveland already knows they're gonna 1. Lose Lebron and 2 trade Kyrie for someone that's just a bandaid until he's a free agent and leaves as well. Cleveland essentially has no incentive to even talk with Phoenix if both pieces they want in return for Kyrie are basically off the table short term and long term.


True, but if Cleveland will be in a rebuilding mode after next season anyway, Bledsoe could be the perfect fit for them now. If healthy he can help Lebron compete for a championship next year, and then Cleveland can trade him during the next off season as an expiring contract, and perhaps get some assets in return. I'm not sure they want someone like Bledsoe long term anyway, especially if they begin the rebuild with a younger team. This whole point is moot though since Cleveland won't be getting Jackson in return.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1512 » by Prince12 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:03 am

So the warriors keep Javale again on a cheap one year deal. They just keep doing it. Only lose Clark and add Young and Casspi. Good luck league.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1513 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:06 am

With Javale to Golden State for the min that puts their roster at 15 and us back in the driving seat to bring back Beasley for 4/$40!
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1514 » by blazza18 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:20 am

Speights was had for the cheap this week too. Those were fun discussions during the season.
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1515 » by VooDoo7 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:58 am

Well of course it was Kidd who wanted Rose. Has this **** ever wanted anyone that wasn't washed up/sucked?
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1516 » by Plossum » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:25 am

Who'd have ever thought a team with Javale and Nick Young on the roster would be the overwhelming favourite to win the NBA?
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1517 » by blazza18 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:45 am

Plossum wrote:Who'd have ever thought a team with Javale and Nick Young on the roster would be the overwhelming favourite to win the NBA?


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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1518 » by Fotis St » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:16 am

Plossum wrote:Who'd have ever thought a team with Javale and Nick Young on the roster would be the overwhelming favourite to win the NBA?


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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1519 » by gaspar » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:03 am

weezybaby856 wrote:
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weezybaby856 wrote:Bledsoe camp doesn't even want a trade to Cleveland knowing Lebron is gone after this season and Phoenix isn't offering Jackson in a Kyrie trade. I'd say you can probably scratch PHX off the list of suitors for Kyrie.


Phoenix not offering Jackson is definitely the deal breaker, but whether or not Bledsoe's camp thinks the trade is a bad idea, doesn't really matter much. He doesn't have a no-trade clause, so Phoenix can deal him to any team they want.


Yeah obviously Bledsoe doesn't have a lot of leverage to dictate a specific trade but it certainly hurts his value if Cleveland already knows they're gonna 1. Lose Lebron and 2 trade Kyrie for someone that's just a bandaid until he's a free agent and leaves as well. Cleveland essentially has no incentive to even talk with Phoenix if both pieces they want in return for Kyrie are basically off the table short term and long term.

The Cavs won't find a better replacement for Kyrie than Bledsoe and the Suns still have A LOT to offer without including Jackson or Booker:
- draft picks (the Suns have MIA 2018 and 2021 1sts and all of their picks)
- young players: Chriss, Warren, Bender, Ulis
- productive vets: Dudley and Chandler
- cap space to take some bad contracts from Cleveland
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Re: ATL - Rose to Cavs - pg 70 

Post#1520 » by Prince12 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:01 pm

Jennings did not see his career going this way when he was going to show the Knicks how big a mistake they made.
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