Dame Lillard is Not Here for the Kyrie Comp's

[Red_man1]

What's Lillard upset about? I think him and Kyrie are pretty much equal in terms of value? Were people saying Kyrie is better and he's mad? Or were they saying they are the same and he is mad? If the former he has a point, if the latter he's a bit delusional.

I assume he wouldn't be upset if people are saying he's better than Kyrie .

I guess I should add Lillard to the list of players I'd trade Kyrie for if Cleveland.

And where is he gonna take the Blazers exactly? To the lottery? When you consider everything, Lillard is the superior player.

[ItsThatEasy]

It seems like Tom Haberstroh wrote an article where he put Lillard and Kobe as barometers on opposite sides of being able to lead a team to success. Lillard took offense at being labeled a loser and defended himself. His tweet made it seem like this isn't the first time this author or perhaps his colleagues have written about him in a negative light.

That's it folks. Reading is fundamental.

Aren't we at a place where we shouldn't even have to point this out?

NBA players see and hear EVERYTHING said about them. Especially when it comes to media narratives centered around their own abilities. Journalists, NBA commentators, RealGM posters, etc. have all used Dame as a negative barometer in discussions like this before. He's very aware of how many backhanded compliments he receives.

Every stereotype fans have on a player, best believe they've heard it and are aware of it themselves. Monta Ellis knows people view him as a chucker, Javale McGee knows people think he's stupid, and you better believe Kyrie knows how popular he's become for being "clutch".

[Poohdini1]

Love it, Dame is the man

[bmurph128]

I recall the Blazers being jilted by Aldridge and we didn't get jack in return. Damian lead the team to the playoffs without any other all-stars. Last season, who was the other all-star?

At 26 Lillard just won 41 games with CJ as his #2 averaging 23 ppg on 48/42/91, 58 TS%.
At 21 Kyrie won 33 games with Dion as his #2 averaging 15 ppg on 43/36/68.

The person who took the 3rd most shots for Portland this past year was Crabbe who had shooting numbers of 46/44/84, 60 TS%.
The person who took the 3rd most shots for Cleveland in 2014 was TT who shot 47% from the field and had a 52 TS%. Im not sure what hand he was using to shot back then either.

And then Kyrie never had a guy like Nurkic (even though just for 20 games) who averaged 18/12/4. While yes Lillard hasnt played with another all star the past 2 years, having a #2 who averaged 23 points a game while flirting with a 50/40/90 season and a beast like Nurkic for the last quarter of the season is a hell of a lot more than Kyrie ever had while winning 33 games at 21.

And who, besides Aldridge, has Lillard played with who was an all-star?

Wasn't Varejao a lot like Nurkic? Wasn't Jamison a lot like Aldridge? Andrew Bynum? Luol Deng? seems like Kyrie had some decent teammates.

No...oh my goodness no..

I'm not sure that Jamison at his best was ever as good as Aldridge (for the Blazers), but the Cavs didn't have Jamison at his best. Bynum and Deng didn't even play a full season. Bynum barely played any games at all.

Varejao and Nurkic...seriously?? AV was a fan favorite, but he was not nearly as good as Nurkic. And by the time Kyrie had AV, he was getting injured every 5 games.

And while I guess we can say Dame doesn't have an all star playing with him now, he himself hasn't been an all star - obviously both he and CJ are all star talents. Before LeBron Kyrie never played with anyone as good as LMA or CJ. Swap them out and neither team misses a beat.

For anyone who wants to talk East/West, Kyrie's best games seem to come against better competition. He's generally performed better the past two years in the finals than against the East in the playoffs.

[Prokorov]

Dame is right though.

kyrie has a ring. lillard does not and has barely been out of the first round

now if you say lillard doesnt have lebron thats true.... but who did kyrie have pre lebron? anthony bennett and waiters?

[chitownsports4ever]

I dont see how anyone can be upset with Dames response when you read the tweet he was responding to.

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[Ballerhogger]

Um ok.. You think being mentioned more and more would be a good self promotion for him.

[jg77]

Honestly, I'd rather have CJ over Kyrie and Dame. I think they're pretty even as players as of now. Kyrie get's a lot of hate for his pre-LeBron years but he was still young and developing then. I do think it's possible for him to be the lead guy on a playoff team today.

[monopoman]

Dame is right though.

kyrie has a ring. lillard does not and has barely been out of the first round

now if you say lillard doesnt have lebron thats true.... but who did kyrie have pre lebron? anthony bennett and waiters?

Lebron has taken every team in the East he has been on to the Finals so yeah. Having Lebron on a team at least in the East almost guarantees a trip to the finals.

[NBAfan3024]

So what is his record?

[2Mas]

The NBA is so soft. Players are so sensitive nowadays.

They're really no more sensitive than players of any other era. It's just a totally different media era.

Lol Exactly.

2017 - Dame sends out a little tweet saying don't disrespect me.

1992 - Jordan prints the article out, hangs it in the gym. Curses it out every morning & yells at it all day as he uses it as motivation to prove so & so wrong.


& We're sensitive lol

[monopoman]

The NBA is so soft. Players are so sensitive nowadays.

They're really no more sensitive than players of any other era. It's just a totally different media era.

Lol Exactly.

2017 - Dame sends out a little tweet saying don't disrespect me.

1992 - Jordan prints the article out, hangs it in the gym. Curses it out every morning & yells at it all day as he uses it as motivation to prove so & so wrong.


& We're sensitive lol

Yep, the first thing a player needs to be one of the best players on earth is a chip on his shoulder. Talent/Athleticism is obviously required to make that jump but plenty of players with both of those never get into the conversation of best player in the NBA for a number of reasons.

Jordan had a driving need to be one of the greatest players of all time and that helped him.

[2Mas]

They're really no more sensitive than players of any other era. It's just a totally different media era.

Lol Exactly.

2017 - Dame sends out a little tweet saying don't disrespect me.

1992 - Jordan prints the article out, hangs it in the gym. Curses it out every morning & yells at it all day as he uses it as motivation to prove so & so wrong.


& We're sensitive lol

Yep, the first thing a player needs to be one of the best players on earth is a chip on his shoulder. Talent/Athleticism is obviously required to make that jump but plenty of players with both of those never get into the conversation of best player in the NBA for a number of reasons.

Jordan had a driving need to be one of the greatest players of all time and that helped him.

Lol my dude. I think your missing the point.

I'm implying that doing what Jordan did makes him more sensitive. Lillard taking 30 secs out of his day to tweet is not as sensitive as Jordan donig the example i said before lol. Kinda joking, but there is truth in that.

[Kurosawa0]

It would be interesting to see Lillard on the Cavs in Kyrie's spot, but I think Kyrie's finishing at the basket is what separates the two.

[Mr Burns]

Lillard really has become one of the saltiest players in the league over the years.

1) Lillard came into the league at 22 years of age, Kyrie entered the league as a 19 year old

2) By the time Kyrie turned 22 years old LeBron joined the team already

3) Kyries first year in the league was a lock out year where he only played 51 games and he was injured his second year playing only 59 games.

4) Lillard already had an all-star big man on his team his first year in the league and had a much better roster than anything Kyrie has ever come close to while being "the man"

How can you even talk about Kyries shortcomings as "the man" on a team when he hardly even got the chance to prove himself. I'm not even that big a fan of Kyrie but its hilarious how everyone just writes him off and credits all his success to LeBron. People are going to be in for a rude awakening when he leaves the Cavs and flourishes on another team.

[Deivork]

Eh, slight overreaction from Lillard.

Because Lillard knows that deep down Irving is way better than him. When Irving was playing without LeBron during his first seasons, Lillard was still in college.

i take lillard over kyrie

[monopoman]

Lol Exactly.

2017 - Dame sends out a little tweet saying don't disrespect me.

1992 - Jordan prints the article out, hangs it in the gym. Curses it out every morning & yells at it all day as he uses it as motivation to prove so & so wrong.


& We're sensitive lol

Yep, the first thing a player needs to be one of the best players on earth is a chip on his shoulder. Talent/Athleticism is obviously required to make that jump but plenty of players with both of those never get into the conversation of best player in the NBA for a number of reasons.

Jordan had a driving need to be one of the greatest players of all time and that helped him.

Lol my dude. I think your missing the point.

I'm implying that doing what Jordan did makes him more sensitive. Lillard taking 30 secs out of his day to tweet is not as sensitive as Jordan donig the example i said before lol. Kinda joking, but there is truth in that.

No I get it but I was just also pointing out that players are given **** now for "wanting to be the best" or "getting pissed when someone disrespects them" and those are traits of the best players of all time.

Obviously MJ had a much more intense reaction to a article than Dame did, but I am saying either reaction is fine and those are the traits of great players.

[britblazerdude]

Lillard is a weird dude who seems to have literally no sense of humor. It's what got him to the NBA but it doesn't come across well to the national media. Y'all are too sensitive for ripping this man's sensitivity.

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[flintsky21]

Ironically, Lebron sat out when Kyrie dropped 55 on Dame's ass a couple years ago.

[monopoman]

Ironically, Lebron sat out when Kyrie dropped 55 on Dame's ass a couple years ago.

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Anyways lately it seems whichever team is at home wins the game when the Cavs face the Blazers. Since 2013-2014 season both teams have won on their home court in every game where they face off. Even in that same season where Kyrie dropped 55 on Dame in the Cavs game where they faced Portland in Portland dame had 27 while Kyrie scored 9.

Whatever I hope we see Kyrie on his own team, because I think he has been a bit overrated at times due to playing with Lebron.