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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#41 » by NBAchamps2017 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:20 am

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The Effect wrote:Unless they are trading love, why would they want gordon??
Love is already a max guy and Gordon will likely be a max guy next year, especially if hes playing with lebron

What the cavs needs is a starting PG (elf), a real SG (fouriner) and an offensive center(Vuc), throw in '18 #1 and the OKC pic and i guarantee that would be better than any offer they end up taking



What has Gordon done in his career so far to make you think he will get a max contract?


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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#42 » by NBAchamps2017 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:33 am

I will trade for Irving, Shumpert and Frye.

Let go Vucevic, Fournier, Gordon and DJ Augustin. Cavs might be laughing at this though.

Irving / Payton / Mack
Simmons / Afflalo / Iwundu
TRoss / Shumpert
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#43 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:49 am

swarlesbarkley wrote:I think Evan+Vuc+2018 draft pick for Kyrie+Frye makes a lot of sense for both teams. Evan and Vuc could pop right into the starting line-up for the Cavs giving them some really solid scoring out of their 3rd and 4th options while also giving their bench an improvement with Thompson and JR.

Orlando:
Kyrie/Elf/Mack
Ross/Afflalo/DJ (Mario)
Simmons/Isaac/Mario
Gordon/Frye
Speights/Biyombo (either could start)

Cleveland:
Rose/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
Lebron/Jefferson/Green
Love/Lebron
Vuc/TT


My exact same sentiments. Might throw in Elf if they wanted to throw Shump in there too, but I will desperately try to persuade them to take an unprotected "2019" pick rather than the '18. If OKC 1st is what's holding the trade from getting done, will probably give in and even throw that in.
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#44 » by tiderulz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:41 am

swarlesbarkley wrote:I think Evan+Vuc+2018 draft pick for Kyrie+Frye makes a lot of sense for both teams. Evan and Vuc could pop right into the starting line-up for the Cavs giving them some really solid scoring out of their 3rd and 4th options while also giving their bench an improvement with Thompson and JR.

Orlando:
Kyrie/Elf/Mack
Ross/Afflalo/DJ (Mario)
Simmons/Isaac/Mario
Gordon/Frye
Speights/Biyombo (either could start)

Cleveland:
Rose/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
Lebron/Jefferson/Green
Love/Lebron
Vuc/TT

it makes sense for Orlando. Cleveland would want a prospect to go along with that. Either AG or Isaac.
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#45 » by tiderulz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:44 am

The Effect wrote:
OrlandoMagic wrote:
The Effect wrote:Unless they are trading love, why would they want gordon??
Love is already a max guy and Gordon will likely be a max guy next year, especially if hes playing with lebron

What the cavs needs is a starting PG (elf), a real SG (fouriner) and an offensive center(Vuc), throw in '18 #1 and the OKC pic and i guarantee that would be better than any offer they end up taking



What has Gordon done in his career so far to make you think he will get a max contract?

Any decent young player is going to get the max. You think if i told you on July 26 2016 that Otto Porter would be a max player, you would believe it? Oladipo as a 21m a year player? Or what if i told you that Tim Hardaway jr would be a 17mil guy, would you believe it? Steve Adams is a 25mil a year guy?

If gordon improves even a little, he will get a max deal.

anyone giving him a max deal is going to regret it. Just like Adams in OKC, no way he should have that huge contract. I know some OKC front office people are regretting that deal
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#46 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:04 pm

tiderulz wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:I think Evan+Vuc+2018 draft pick for Kyrie+Frye makes a lot of sense for both teams. Evan and Vuc could pop right into the starting line-up for the Cavs giving them some really solid scoring out of their 3rd and 4th options while also giving their bench an improvement with Thompson and JR.

Orlando:
Kyrie/Elf/Mack
Ross/Afflalo/DJ (Mario)
Simmons/Isaac/Mario
Gordon/Frye
Speights/Biyombo (either could start)

Cleveland:
Rose/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
Lebron/Jefferson/Green
Love/Lebron
Vuc/TT

it makes sense for Orlando. Cleveland would want a prospect to go along with that. Either AG or Isaac.


Throw in Hezonja and an unprotected pick and call it a day!
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#47 » by tiderulz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:28 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:I think Evan+Vuc+2018 draft pick for Kyrie+Frye makes a lot of sense for both teams. Evan and Vuc could pop right into the starting line-up for the Cavs giving them some really solid scoring out of their 3rd and 4th options while also giving their bench an improvement with Thompson and JR.

Orlando:
Kyrie/Elf/Mack
Ross/Afflalo/DJ (Mario)
Simmons/Isaac/Mario
Gordon/Frye
Speights/Biyombo (either could start)

Cleveland:
Rose/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
Lebron/Jefferson/Green
Love/Lebron
Vuc/TT

it makes sense for Orlando. Cleveland would want a prospect to go along with that. Either AG or Isaac.


Throw in Hezonja and an unprotected pick and call it a day!

we arent going to be able to get a star for trash. Hezonja is behind 15 players right now. Cleveland sees that too, so adding Hezonja isnt going to move the needle.
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#48 » by Skybox » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:33 pm

If FO sees star quality in Isaac, I could see Gordon being included to get a scorer...primarily because of his upcoming $$$. So far I'm impressed with their financial discipline. Gordon's people are going to want big bucks. Gordon's a bigger name (due to his highlights) than he is a contributor...I'm a big fan of AG and am optimistic about his continued development, but it's far from a sure thing and I'd say his demanding to get paid on potential is more likely than his reaching it. If there is no big trade to be had, I hold on tight to AG and pay him.
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#49 » by Nemesis21 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:41 pm

swarlesbarkley wrote:I think Evan+Vuc+2018 draft pick for Kyrie+Frye makes a lot of sense for both teams. Evan and Vuc could pop right into the starting line-up for the Cavs giving them some really solid scoring out of their 3rd and 4th options while also giving their bench an improvement with Thompson and JR.

Orlando:
Kyrie/Elf/Mack
Ross/Afflalo/DJ (Mario)
Simmons/Isaac/Mario
Gordon/Frye
Speights/Biyombo (either could start)

Cleveland:
Rose/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
Lebron/Jefferson/Green
Love/Lebron
Vuc/TT



I would love to get Kyrie, while keeping Gordon and Isaac. But they probably would want Payton included, Rose and Calderon arent' going to be around much longer. They very likely want a PG coming back, which I'm ok with. I'd do that trade plus Payton.
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#50 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:18 am

Nemesis21 wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:I think Evan+Vuc+2018 draft pick for Kyrie+Frye makes a lot of sense for both teams. Evan and Vuc could pop right into the starting line-up for the Cavs giving them some really solid scoring out of their 3rd and 4th options while also giving their bench an improvement with Thompson and JR.

Orlando:
Kyrie/Elf/Mack
Ross/Afflalo/DJ (Mario)
Simmons/Isaac/Mario
Gordon/Frye
Speights/Biyombo (either could start)

Cleveland:
Rose/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
Lebron/Jefferson/Green
Love/Lebron
Vuc/TT



I would love to get Kyrie, while keeping Gordon and Isaac. But they probably would want Payton included, Rose and Calderon arent' going to be around much longer. They very likely want a PG coming back, which I'm ok with. I'd do that trade plus Payton.


My exact thoughts! If we can nab Irving without using Gordon/Isaac I'll be freakin ecstatic.

Now for comparison sake does a Bledsoe + Warren + pick beat our offer?
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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#51 » by NickAndersonsBack25 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:44 am

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OrlandoMagic wrote:
The Effect wrote:Unless they are trading love, why would they want gordon??
Love is already a max guy and Gordon will likely be a max guy next year, especially if hes playing with lebron

What the cavs needs is a starting PG (elf), a real SG (fouriner) and an offensive center(Vuc), throw in '18 #1 and the OKC pic and i guarantee that would be better than any offer they end up taking



What has Gordon done in his career so far to make you think he will get a max contract?


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Re: Gearing up for a trade? 

Post#52 » by NBAchamps2017 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:19 am

Rose / DJ Augustin / Calderon
JR Smith / Fournier / Korver
LBJ / Green / Jefferson
Love / Gordon / Williams
Vucevic / Tristan

VS

Irving / Payton / Mack
Simmons / Afflalo / Iwundu
TRoss / Shumpert
Speights / Isaac / Frye
Bismack / Birch

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