trex_8063 wrote:Well the time is upon us to do another Top 100 of All-Time project.
PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS OP TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AND GUIDELINES Links to prior lists:
Doctor MJ's spreadsheet with information back to 2006 and some 2003RealGM Top 100 List 2008RealGM Top 100 List 2011Poster Pre-Lists from before 2014 projectRealGM Top 100 List 2014Poster Pre-Lists from before 2017 project 2017 List 1.
Michael Jordan2.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar3.
Lebron James4.
Bill Russell5.
Tim Duncan6.
Wilt Chamberlain7.
Magic Johnson8.
Shaquille O'Neal9.
Hakeem Olajuwon10.
Larry Bird11.
Kobe Bryant12.
Kevin Garnett13.
Oscar Robertson14.
Karl Malone15.
Jerry West16.
Julius Erving17.
Dirk Nowitzki18.
David RobinsonAnyone and everyone is free to participate in the discussion during the course of this project. However, the voter pool will be pre-approved by a panel of moderators. Tenured posters in good standing will be allowed into the voter pool immediately.
Newer/less-known posters or posters with questionable records may be asked to participate in the discussion WITHOUT being allowed a counted vote for a few threads, to demonstrate capable knowledge, genuine intent, and ability to converse in a respectful manner. If they pass this “trial period”, they will then be made eligible voters.
Pending details of user record and history, the “trial period” may be longer and more arduous for some than it is for others.
But here’s the important part:
YOU MUST STATE YOUR DESIRE TO VOTE IN THE PROJECT IN THIS THREAD (though this is not required to participate in the project discussion).
This top 100 list is to comprise the greatest in
all of BAA/NBA/ABA history (EDIT: where Mikan is concerned, you may also consider NBL as far back as '47). I am not going to stipulate a specific criteria that we all must follow. Everyone is free to be guided by their own values as to their ranking. However, the one thing I
do ask [given this is to be an ALL-TIME list]
is that you consider ALL players from all eras of BAA/NBA/ABA history.
I know there are a few individuals who only rank players post-merger or some other relatively arbitrary cut-off. For the purposes of this project, that is simply inadequate. I ask that you familiarize yourself [to the best of your ability] with players from all eras (going back as far as the BAA), and from the ABA as well, so that you can make educated speculations on the appropriate rank of players in an “all-time” sense.
If you do not feel up to that task, I would ask that you be up front about this and refrain from voting in the project (though please still participate in the discussion).
Given we are not forcing a specific set of criteria on posters, please be aware as we move thru this project that the criteria of other posters will often differ from your own. As such, there isn’t always a “right and wrong” in much of this…...just differing value systems. Please hold that in mind and
be respectful to one and other. If you’re going to participate, I would like it if you would take a little time [if you haven’t already done so] to outline your criteria in this thread:
Official Criteria Thread That way, anyone you are debating with/against can at least get an idea of where you’re coming from.
The project is likely to start at the end of June and will take ~8 months to finish. It’s a long process, and I hope those participating stick with it to the end (imo, it’s a lot of the later positions that get interesting, as there’s so much less separating each individual place once we’re past ~#50).
While the resulting list is always a big curiosity for me, too, it’s the discussion that I hope we can make vibrant, textured, and useful for future reference.
EDIT: For voting procedure, we're going to experiment with something new, a Ranked Choice Vote (RCV). The procedure is pretty simple: basically you'd state who your top pick is (
with supporting arguments), then also stipulate who your second pick would be
(you will not be required to do a write-up or provide arguments for your secondary pick, though other posters may ask you your reasoning)). If no single player has the majority (>50%) of first place votes, then the player with the LEAST number of first place votes is eliminated.....and every voter who voted for that eliminated player has their second choice votes added to the total (the first place total) of the surviving candidates. If that doesn't result in somebody having a majority, the player with the next least number of first place votes is eliminated, and again second choice votes are transferred. Lather, rinse, repeat until a majority is reached (or until only two candidates remain: whoever has the most between the two of them).
Here's the graphic that fpliii provided:
fpliii wrote:
This is a somewhat experimental procedure relative to prior projects. Hopefully it goes well. However, if there are issues, we can go back to the same single-vote procedure from the 2014 project, which is as follows:
1) We vote for one position/rank at a time, starting at #1 and proceeding to #100.
2) Each eligible voter can cast their vote for ONE player.
Votes MUST be accompanied by some arguments that demonstrate you have given serious consideration to your choice (i.e. something like “won six MVP’s” or “highest ppg of all-time” or similar is not adequate; your vote will not be counted if adequate justification is not provided).
3) You may change your vote if you feel compelled to do so.
If you do wish to change your vote, please edit your original vote post and otherwise just give me a heads-up post that you’ve changed your vote.4) The vote for each thread/position will be open for ~48 hours. At the end of that 48-hour period if one player has a majority of the total vote, that player will be awarded the rank being voted on. If no single player has a majority of the vote, we will enter a 24-hour run-off vote between the top 2 vote recipients (or rarely the top 3, in event of a tie).
If your original vote was cast for one of the players in the run-off, you do NOT need to repeat your vote once we go into run-off (your original vote will simply be counted). i.e. only vote in the run-off if you original vote was NOT for one of the two run-off contestants (or if you wish to change your original vote).
5) We (the panel of moderators) will be watching closely for any evidence of collusion or “manipulation” of the vote. If we become suspicious an individual is participating in this manner, he or she may be removed from the voter panel, pending further investigation and/or trial period. EDIT: those guilty of any other general misbehavior may also be removed from the voter panel.
I think that’s about it. Again, if you want to vote, please make your request here. Any questions, concerns, etc you may have, now is the time to ask as well.
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