Kyrie Trade Discussion Continued

RichieRichPaul · Post #941 » by **RichieRichPaul** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:41 pm

GatorbaitDD wrote:I think Bledsoe + Chriss + protected 1st for Kyrie & Shump is a good deal for everyone.

Chriss isn't that valuable imo

Jackson because his draft status and he's an unknown is equal value

Hindenburg · Post #942 » by **Hindenburg** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:45 pm

BasketballFan7 · Post #943 » by **BasketballFan7** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:46 pm

RichieRichPaul wrote:
GatorbaitDD wrote:I think Bledsoe + Chriss + protected 1st for Kyrie & Shump is a good deal for everyone.

Chriss isn't that valuable imo

Jackson because his draft status and he's an unknown is equal value

Chriss seems interesting. I know he was wretched defensively, but he has the toolbox. Super athlete who can block shots, dunk the ball, and he shows promise from 3. At 6`10, that is a lot of upside. And he plays with an attitude.

Bender, I am not sure. He had a lot of hype pre-draft.

Post #944 » by **The Duke** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:12 pm

If Suns now, I think:

Irving for Bledsoe + Bender + lotto protected 1st rounder.

Cavs still make the Finals.

RichieRichPaul · Post #945 » by **RichieRichPaul** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:22 pm

The Duke wrote:If Suns now, I think:

Irving for Bledsoe + Bender + lotto protected 1st rounder.

Cavs still make the Finals.

Cavs laugh hard at that offer.

DowJones · Post #946 » by **DowJones** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:38 pm

The Duke wrote:If Suns now, I think:

Irving for Bledsoe + Bender + lotto protected 1st rounder.

Cavs still make the Finals.

It depends on the protection. Top-3 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019 is the most I do but if it is protected at all I want Miami's 2018 pick as well. That is fair value.

Cavaliers2 · Post #947 » by **Cavaliers2** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:50 pm

I like Chriss I think he can be good...but I really would rather have Jackson I feel like the cavs would bury Chriss on their bench and he would never develop. He seems like a guy that needs to get big minutes and the cavs would not play him that much

Saberestar · Post #948 » by **Saberestar** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:58 pm

https://streamable.com/wnzw9

House of the Rising Sun.

BasketballFan7 · Post #949 » by **BasketballFan7** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:59 pm

Cavaliers2 wrote:I like Chriss I think he can be good...but I really would rather have Jackson I feel like the cavs would bury Chriss on their bench and he would never develop. He seems like a guy that needs to get big minutes and the cavs would not play him that much

I tend to agree, but who is going to play for Cleveland with Frye seemingly on the way out?

BasketballFan7 · Post #950 » by **BasketballFan7** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:00 pm

Saberestar wrote:https://streamable.com/wnzw9

House of the Rising Sun.

Welp

NatiboyB · Post #951 » by **NatiboyB** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:09 pm

The Duke wrote:If Suns now, I think:

Irving for Bledsoe + Bender + lotto protected 1st rounder.

Cavs still make the Finals.

Just toss TJ Warren in there and you can even keep the lotto protected 1st...

Cavaliers2 · Post #952 » by **Cavaliers2** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:10 pm

BasketballFan7 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:https://streamable.com/wnzw9

House of the Rising Sun.

Welp

What's he saying in the video?

Saberestar · Post #953 » by **Saberestar** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:15 pm

Cavaliers2 wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:https://streamable.com/wnzw9

House of the Rising Sun.

Welp

What's he saying in the video?

I don't understand him.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #954 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:20 pm

So I heard that Jackson could not be included until Aug 2nd correct?

I wonder IF that could be an indication as to why this deal is not done if it's starting to creep more and more and more towards there being a deal from CLE and PHX.

Honestly I think PHX would be silly to not do the deal if Cavs insist on Jackson. Yes he has some good potential, but Kyrie is already a proven all-star who is only 25 and may not even have peaked yet. Kyrie isn't a leader to me, but his game offensively is extraordinary.

It's a lot riskier to count on a rookie being great than it is to take the sure thing, Kyrie is proven. I was hesitant at first to let Wiggins go for Love bc of the what if factor, but the more I thought about it, Love was a beast, an all-star, Wiggins was unproven.I do not regret that trade one single bit.

Fo-Real · Post #955 » by **Fo-Real** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:20 pm

Cavaliers2 wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:https://streamable.com/wnzw9

House of the Rising Sun.

Welp

What's he saying in the video?

I think he said something like it's a beautiful day?

InWestWeTrust · Post #956 » by **InWestWeTrust** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:25 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Cavaliers2 wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:Welp

What's he saying in the video?

I don't understand him.

The song is "House of the Rising Sun"

He says "Great rising" or whatever.

He is rising and the theory would be that he is going to be a Sun

DNP-Old · Post #957 » by **DNP-Old** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:29 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Cavaliers2 wrote:
BasketballFan7 wrote:Welp

What's he saying in the video?

"Great rising, beautiful world. I love you so much"

Amsterdam · Post #958 » by **Amsterdam** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:33 pm

NoBias wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
Euroballer wrote:
Lebron at this point is in the running for top 10 all time.

And now he can't close-in on Bill Russell's 11.

He's top 5.

I meant Bill Russell's 11 Championships.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #959 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:41 pm

Bledsoe, Jackson, Miami's 1st for Kyrie and I will drive Kyrie to the airport myself.

I really don't get Suns reluctance, Kyrie is a proven all-star, top 5 pg in the league most likely. Jackson is a 4th overall pick.

Kyrie wants to be the lead dog, there is no accounts that Kyrie would necessarily want to leave PHX in 2 years at all. Suns would be silly not to do this in my opinion.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #960 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:56 pm

I can see Thibs popping up at the last minute to offer Wiggins.

Will Kyrie be traded by the beginning of the season?