Kyrie Irving 'Tired Of Hearing About What LeBron Needs'

[haste10176]

Truth hurts Bitches

Labron I mean Labum is a Cry baby!

I need this, I need that

Labum: I don't believe in super teams don't know what they are? LOL stupd clown

I remember the days where people use to bash Kobe and say he needed Shaq ... Kobe needed Gasol ...

Guess what you whiney turds

Labum needs not 1, but 2 all stars and soon to be 3 allstars beside his name to win - Wade/Bosh, Irving/Love ... Kobe=Shaq, Kobe=Gasol and still won 5 chips and did it in the WEST!

F U Labum

What a chode

What? Shaq was the better player.

Andrew Bynum was an all star, he was just injured afterwards.
Odom could have been an all star, he sacrificed for the team and came off the bench.
MWP was an all star, he could have gone more if he didn't have a temper problem.

Phil >>>>>>>> Lue

What? Bynum only avg 7ppg/5rpg in the title runs. MWP made the all-star once in 2004 by the time he joined the Lakers in 2010 he was a shell of himself. Odom was sacrificing for the team in Miami too, huh? Sacrificed for the Clippers too, right? Odom sacrificed for 14 seasons huh?

Gasol was an absolute gun... Kobe has won two finals MVP LBJ three and LBJ has been the best player in 6 straight finals.. Two of the finals MVP's went to guys defending him... I mean come on man.. Kobe>>>>>LBJ... BTW if Kobe Gasol ran into the Warriors say goodnight.. If Kobe Shaq ran into the warriors id say same thing but closer merely because Shaq was so dominate.. Durant is taller than Kobe and a Better shooter surrounded by other better shooters... This GSW team is an all time great team something Jordan and Kobe never faced.. LBJ has run into dynasty teams Spurs and GSW.. GSW is probably the best team ever.. They have had three seasons of 67+ wins thats the best run ever and its not ending anytime soon.. They have the most all stars in there prime and 2 x MVP players in there prime... If Jordan or Kobe had run into that they would lose.. At the time of Jordans run he had by far the best team his team was great without him.. Kobe same thing had a great team both times and all time coach.. LBJ sat for 90 seconds in game 3 and his team was minus 12??? That was the ball game... Jordan could actually get rest with his team... BTW Jordan and Kobe are both obviously awesome players and Jordan and LBJ are probably 1&2 best players of all time... I rewatched Jordans games though and he was bailed out big time by team mates when he is cold because he keeps shooting but when he misses just like Kobe his team mates clean it up and keep the score ticking over themselves.. If LBJ had the clear best team that Jordan and Kobe had he would clearly be far ahead in championships..

[ChokeFasncists]

Truth hurts Bitches

Labron I mean Labum is a Cry baby!

I need this, I need that

Labum: I don't believe in super teams don't know what they are? LOL stupd clown

I remember the days where people use to bash Kobe and say he needed Shaq ... Kobe needed Gasol ...

Guess what you whiney turds

Labum needs not 1, but 2 all stars and soon to be 3 allstars beside his name to win - Wade/Bosh, Irving/Love ... Kobe=Shaq, Kobe=Gasol and still won 5 chips and did it in the WEST!

F U Labum

What a chode

What? Shaq was the better player.

Andrew Bynum was an all star, he was just injured afterwards.
Odom could have been an all star, he sacrificed for the team and came off the bench.
MWP was an all star, he could have gone more if he didn't have a temper problem.

Phil >>>>>>>> Lue

What? Bynum only avg 7ppg/5rpg in the title runs. MWP made the all-star once in 2004 by the time he joined the Lakers in 2010 he was a shell of himself.

It doesn't matter, they were all stars caliber players. (MWP was only thirty and averaged 17ppg the year before, still one of the best defenders in the league)

Odom was sacrificing for the team in Miami too, huh? Sacrificed for the Clippers too, right? Odom sacrificed for 14 seasons huh?

Guy was averaging 16/10/5 entering his prime. Totally possible could have made an all star team if he didn't come off the bench.

[Dr Huge Pecs]

Truth hurts Bitches

Labron I mean Labum is a Cry baby!

I need this, I need that

Labum: I don't believe in super teams don't know what they are? LOL stupd clown

I remember the days where people use to bash Kobe and say he needed Shaq ... Kobe needed Gasol ...

Guess what you whiney turds

Labum needs not 1, but 2 all stars and soon to be 3 allstars beside his name to win - Wade/Bosh, Irving/Love ... Kobe=Shaq, Kobe=Gasol and still won 5 chips and did it in the WEST!

F U Labum

What a chode

What? Shaq was the better player.

Andrew Bynum was an all star, he was just injured afterwards.
Odom could have been an all star, he sacrificed for the team and came off the bench.
MWP was an all star, he could have gone more if he didn't have a temper problem.

Phil >>>>>>>> Lue

the truth everyone already knew is starting to come out directly from the nba and mainstream press... and for those who don't know, not only is he a delusional narcissist, lebron has been gifted games and even championships his entire career... and he needed to hide out in the east on pre-built super teams to get to his 3-5 finals record (imo really 1-7), for which the league was more than happy to accomodate.

fun eating lebron

[Pickled Prunes]

What Lebron needs you to do is shut up and play ball!

...or get traded... whichever is best for him in the short term.

In terms of the cavs whats wrong with that.. Cavs had not won a championship and LBJ brought it home for them... Most other teams will not win one... They would not have won one without LBJ.. LBJ is your best chance of winning one more try everything to make it happen..

Ask me that same question after they trade Kyrie, fail to make the finals and Lebron walks next summer. Then they're left with Love, a bloated TT contract and a handful of broken dreams. They trade Love for assets to rebuild, TT is their highest paid player and they spent another half-decade in the lottery... because what LBJ wants has nothing to do with whats best for the Cavs.

[SlimShady83]

I didn't even once say anything about who was better then who ... Or who you think is better

Basically saying Labron is Labum/chode/cry baby

And needs 2 allstars to win it all and needs to be in the crappy east. Kobe only had Shaq/Gasol etc

Then you all saying Lebron is better then Kobe. Kobe had better team etc

Not even once did I say Kobe was better then Labum or vise versa and here y'all start having a go saying Labron did this, did that is way better

LMAO Stupid clowns.

[haste10176]

I didn't even once say anything about who was better then who ... Or who you think is better

Basically saying Labron is Labum/chode/cry baby

And needs 2 allstars to win it all and needs to be in the crappy east. Kobe only had Shaq/Gasol etc

Then you all saying Lebron is better then Kobe. Kobe had better team etc

Not even once did I say Kobe was better then Labum or vise versa and here y'all start having a go saying Labron did this, did that is way better

LMAO Stupid clowns.

Umm yeahso saying he needs to all stars and Kobe only needs shaq/gasol is not trying to make a comparison.. Whatever mate your so full of s**t...

[haste10176]

What Lebron needs you to do is shut up and play ball!

...or get traded... whichever is best for him in the short term.

In terms of the cavs whats wrong with that.. Cavs had not won a championship and LBJ brought it home for them... Most other teams will not win one... They would not have won one without LBJ.. LBJ is your best chance of winning one more try everything to make it happen..

Ask me that same question after they trade Kyrie, fail to make the finals and Lebron walks next summer. Then they're left with Love, a bloated TT contract and a handful of broken dreams. They trade Love for assets to rebuild, TT is their highest paid player and they spent another half-decade in the lottery... because what LBJ wants has nothing to do with whats best for the Cavs.

They won a championship.. When Kyrie was on his own they kept getting lottery picks... and when LBJ does not play Kyrie is 4-13 when love is also playing.. The wolves last year with some really great young talent could not even make play offs so getting a few good young players does not make a championship contender... There will be another Kyrie for the cavs eventually but there will never be another Lebron... Cleveland is not exactly a great market or destination for players so it is unlikely they ever win another title post Lebron.. Pau Gasol is on 16mill a year so not to worried about TT's 17-18mill a year post LBJ and Kyrie and even love cause you will be rebuilding with young players from the draft and you got to hit the cap ceiling and post LBJ TT will have 2 years left on the contract.. Will they be in the lottery for another half a decade probably but so what they got a championship.. If LBJ had not come were they going to spend another 3-5 years in the lottery waiting for wiggins to develop... Cause Kyrie was not getting them to the play offs let alone to be a contender.. and who says Kyrie does not leave after being on a losing team so long anyway... If I am the cavs sure I would rather have kept Kyrie but if this was a trade off for a championship and three straight finals appearances its a no brainier the same as the trade love for wiggins..

[haste10176]

Truth hurts Bitches

Labron I mean Labum is a Cry baby!

I need this, I need that

Labum: I don't believe in super teams don't know what they are? LOL stupd clown

I remember the days where people use to bash Kobe and say he needed Shaq ... Kobe needed Gasol ...

Guess what you whiney turds

Labum needs not 1, but 2 all stars and soon to be 3 allstars beside his name to win - Wade/Bosh, Irving/Love ... Kobe=Shaq, Kobe=Gasol and still won 5 chips and did it in the WEST!

F U Labum

What a chode

What? Shaq was the better player.

Andrew Bynum was an all star, he was just injured afterwards.
Odom could have been an all star, he sacrificed for the team and came off the bench.
MWP was an all star, he could have gone more if he didn't have a temper problem.

Phil >>>>>>>> Lue

the truth everyone already knew is starting to come out directly from the nba and mainstream press... and for those who don't know, not only is he a delusional narcissist, lebron has been gifted games and even championships his entire career... and he needed to hide out in the east on pre-built super teams to get to his 3-5 finals record (imo really 1-7), for which the league was more than happy to accomodate.

fun eating lebron

Hang on 1 and 7 thats stupid talk in that game 6 against the spurs LBJ was smashing it and then he missed a three bosh rebounded and Ray Allen a man LBJ recruited to be on his team and hit 3's hit a 3... and in Game 7 LBJ was a beast that dominated the spurs... I distinctly remember Draymond there in game 6 and 7 of the 2016 finals and had a monster game 7 and they lost.. Whether he was suspended or not LBJ and Kyrie were firing so Cavs most likely win anyway and if you keep going for ppls nuts you get suspended to be honest he should have been gone against the Thunder and then GSW would not even have been in the finals in which case the cavs would have crushed the thunder... As far as pre built super teams well no thats what Durant went to an already assembled super team.. Lebron went to an 8th seed and a lottery team and brought in players he never had played with before to assemble a team.. Thats not pre-built thats total assembly... You might want to rethink that one... Then there is the fact the last 6 years he has been the best player in the finals every time and his team just has not been good enough.. There is one series that LBJ is wholly and totally responsible for and that is the 2011 dallas series which was totally his fault for losing since then every year he has been the best player in the finals.. In the 2014 lose to the spurs Wade was so bad it was a joke LBJ was still great.. In 2015 lose to the warriors LBJ lost Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving and still took it too 6 games once again the best player in finals.. in 2007 come on man that was the worst team to ever make the finals all due to Lebron you going to count him against that did MJ ever drag a crap team to finals maybe to a first round play off lose.. He never hid out on the east he was drafted by the cavs who happen to be in the east and are a terribly run organization.. BTW MJ was going to leave the bulls unless they got him help they got him Pippen and much much more.. The Cavs on the first run got LBJ nothing to work with it was terrible.. He went to Miami and did pretty well should have won 2011 but once again this was a wholly assembled team not pre-built unlike GSW so took time to adjust.. Wade and Bosh were both broken and he choose to come home to the Cavs to win them a ring he did that.. Rumors say he is going to Los Angeles next so that says to me the guy is not at all scared of the West...I love how MJ's losing seasons are not counted against him but LBJ's losing finals are.. How does that make sense is it not better to get to the finals than lose in the first round???

[axeman23]

Kyrie is correct the Cavs are his team, he was there first and won allstar game mvp the year before and he also outplayed the league mvp as well and hit the game winner in his face. Something Lebron was not able to do for them.

So he kicked ass in a glorified game of hot-dogging "buddy-ball", how'd he go in the playoffs before Lebron arrived? Oh, thats right: he DIDN'T...

[ChokeFasncists]

Truth hurts Bitches

Labron I mean Labum is a Cry baby!

I need this, I need that

Labum: I don't believe in super teams don't know what they are? LOL stupd clown

I remember the days where people use to bash Kobe and say he needed Shaq ... Kobe needed Gasol ...

Guess what you whiney turds

Labum needs not 1, but 2 all stars and soon to be 3 allstars beside his name to win - Wade/Bosh, Irving/Love ... Kobe=Shaq, Kobe=Gasol and still won 5 chips and did it in the WEST!

F U Labum

What a chode

What? Shaq was the better player.

Andrew Bynum was an all star, he was just injured afterwards.
Odom could have been an all star, he sacrificed for the team and came off the bench.
MWP was an all star, he could have gone more if he didn't have a temper problem.

Phil >>>>>>>> Lue

the truth everyone already knew is starting to come out directly from the nba and mainstream press... and for those who don't know, not only is he a delusional narcissist, lebron has been gifted games and even championships his entire career... and he needed to hide out in the east on pre-built super teams to get to his 3-5 finals record (imo really 1-7), for which the league was more than happy to accomodate.

I don't think those Heat chips were gifted. I don't think the Cavs one was gifted to him per se, it was more for Cleveland.

Just cuz KD did that cheap thing, doesn't mean LBJ isn't a great player.

[SVG]

Since he's acting like such an attention wh***, I shall no longer refer to him as Kyrie, because Kylie seems like a more suitable name for him now.

[Hoopzilla]

I love how MJ's losing seasons are not counted against him but LBJ's losing finals are.. How does that make sense is it not better to get to the finals than lose in the first round???

If you are serious with this comment you obviously have no clue about the history of basketball. Why is Jordan losing in the first round not held against him? Because the Bulls lost to legendary teams, save his rookie season when he lost to the Bucks, you can hold that against him if you want, sure. It is a lot easier to deal with a loss in the first round when the team you lose to wins the title. or barely loses in the Finals, which is what happened to the teams that beat the Bulls each year.

Aside from that loss to the Bucks, they lost to either the Boston Celtics and the Detroit Pistons. Out of the next five years (1986-1990), the Pistons and Celtics won three titles and lost in the FInals once each during that time. The Lakers, Pistons and Celtics were the three best teams in the league at that point, Jordan happened to run up against them every year. Lebron never faced any legendary teams during his career until he got swept by the Spurs in 2014, although most would argue that was not a legendary team as the stars were all pretty old by that point. Jordan lost to all-time great teams that won multiple titles during the times Jordan was learning to win. Have you ever asked yourself how many straight Finals Jordan would have gone to if he jumped teams every few years to stack the deck in his favour? What if he went to Utah and joined Malone and Stockton? What if he stayed in the East and teamed up with Barkley and brought Ewing with him? Jordan would have won a lot more if he sunk to the pathetic levels that Lebron does. No one holds the losses against Jordan because he lost to legendary teams and he didn't jump from team to team trying to create Super Teams and stack the deck, he kept working until he overcame his foes, he never joined them like Lebron. I can't believe this needed to be said on this board, truly sad.

Read up a bit on the history of the game and the most obvious points won't escape you in the future, it is really simple if you look.

[Biff]

To be fair, he has a point. Lebron & Wade seemed to be on more equal terms than Kyrie & Lebron, despite Kyrie being very instrumental to the Cavs success.

Wade won a championship without Lebron. Cavs were 33-49 the year before Lebron arrived and the Cavs were a better team with him off the court than with him on it. Ortg of 105 on vs 103.4 off but D rating was 110.1 on vs 104.2 off. So the Cavs were +4.3 when he wasn't playing. Kyrie is massively overrated. He's a score first PG that doesn't make those around him better and is an atrocious defender.

So he wasn't instrumental in their title-run, is what you're saying?

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Sure he played a role but so did Tristan Thompson. Kyrie did exactly what he is good at, score the ball. It doesn't change the fact that he's massively overrated and not worth multiple draft picks and another team's star player. This guy isn't going to make anyone a contender.

[Clay Davis]

Wade won a championship without Lebron. Cavs were 33-49 the year before Lebron arrived and the Cavs were a better team with him off the court than with him on it. Ortg of 105 on vs 103.4 off but D rating was 110.1 on vs 104.2 off. So the Cavs were +4.3 when he wasn't playing. Kyrie is massively overrated. He's a score first PG that doesn't make those around him better and is an atrocious defender.

So he wasn't instrumental in their title-run, is what you're saying?

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Sure he played a role but so did Tristan Thompson. Kyrie did exactly what he is good at, score the ball. It doesn't change the fact that he's massively overrated and not worth multiple draft picks and another team's star player. This guy isn't going to make anyone a contender.

Not many players could own Golden State the way he did in 2016. Do you think if you replaced him with Demar Derozan that team would still win?

[Biff]

So he wasn't instrumental in their title-run, is what you're saying?

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Sure he played a role but so did Tristan Thompson. Kyrie did exactly what he is good at, score the ball. It doesn't change the fact that he's massively overrated and not worth multiple draft picks and another team's star player. This guy isn't going to make anyone a contender.

Not many players could own Golden State the way he did in 2016. Do you think if you replaced him with Demar Derozan that team would still win?

I'm not a Demar Derozan fan either so that doesn't matter to me but probably not. Derozan is another scorer that doesn't play defense. The Raptors defense is +5.6 with Derozan sitting. Kyrie is probably better than Derozan but I wouldn't be trading away 2 way players for either of them.

[Clay Davis]

Sure he played a role but so did Tristan Thompson. Kyrie did exactly what he is good at, score the ball. It doesn't change the fact that he's massively overrated and not worth multiple draft picks and another team's star player. This guy isn't going to make anyone a contender.

Not many players could own Golden State the way he did in 2016. Do you think if you replaced him with Demar Derozan that team would still win?

I'm not a Demar Derozan fan either so that doesn't matter to me but probably not. Derozan is another scorer that doesn't play defense. The Raptors defense is +5.6 with Derozan sitting. Kyrie is probably better than Derozan but I wouldn't be trading away 2 way players for either of them.

Me neither. But you got to admit, Lebron chose to defer to Kyrie in 2016 in clutch situations -- notably game 7 -- and it paid off. Golden State needed an assassin like that, who can just kill it in iso situations, and now that they have it they look unbeatable. I like Lebron as a player and as a person, but I don't like how, as a teammate, he has such gravity in the sense that he's acting like he's God's gift to the city of Cleveland and the team that calls it home. At the end of the day, he's just another man in a jersey.

[johnnyballgame]

He was the best one on one player in the game, averaged 20 ppg, was an all star, and a three point contest winner. All before he ever stepped on a court with Lebron. He is now three years older with more experience. He will be okay...

Are you sure? He impregnated a gold digger beauty queen, he tried to get out of paying child support (say what you will about the woman, that's his own child), his new girlfriend was sleeping with another man and pictures of dude in his woman's bed made the web, now he's taking advice from the 'pastor' who 'mentors' Bieber. He doesn't seem like he's planned a lot of things out too far ahead. Like doing a bunch of stupid stuff to lower your trade value when you want to be traded. The reports say teams were calling and investigating his character.... that's initially because he's already not looking like a team guy in just demanding a trade (malcontent?)
The latest articles... like this one.. are basically saying he's jealous of LeBron. Jealousy is a pretty childish emotion.

Yes, I am absolutely sure. Every single fact in my above post is 100% correct. Notice how you had absolutely nothing to refute and just went personal and took guesses about Kyrie`s motivation to leave... He quietly went to management , behind closed doors and asked for a trade, so they could get the most value for him in return. Lebron got salty and leaked the trade request, further hurting the Cavs position, but sure, blame Kyre for not being a team player. What do you call a guy who walked away, gave them nothing when he left, came back, gutted the roster, forced management to overpay his friends, refuse to waive his no trade clause (making sure the team will get nothing when he walks away, again), leaks reports of trade requests because he is upset and will leave again next year for greener pastures once again leaving them with absolutely nothing... Oh yeah, you call him the cherry picking pogo stick known as Lebron James. But please, go on and tell me how terrible Kyrie is and look even more stupid...

You have nothing intelligent or fact based to respond with, so you try and get personal about him and make assertions based on reports in the media, really smart. Who do you think carries more weight in the narrative for articles that try and make them look better, Kyrie or Lebron? Lebron uses social media to call out his teammates, whine about the roster, cry to his momma, etc... If you base your assertions on articles and not cold hard facts, you are just buying what they are selling. Grow up and read between the lines and make your own decisions, it is pretty easy to see if you aren`t ignorant to the obvious.

So you can see the future and are positive he'll be okay but unlike me you're posting facts. I see. Your ranting about me speculating why he wants to leave is a non-fact. Can you see something in my post that says he wants to leave because? I simply oquestioned whether you're sure he's okay, because a lot of the facts I pointed out allude to a troubled person. That's a fact.
Sometimes even very successful people have deep rooted struggles because inside despite being your hero, they're just people.

Also, you posted some other non-facts. Like LeBron didn't leave the Cavs with nothing. He was traded to Miami for two first round picks, two second round picks and swap rights on another first. I wouldn't call that nothing. Its more than that maximum value you claim Kyrie was getting them by quietly asking for a trade at the worst possible point of the off season after all. Fact. You can say LeBron left regardless, but facts are facts. One first was used to take Ja e Crowder, right in front of Draymond Green and Khris oMiddleton, but its LeBron's fault the Cavs didn't draft well after he left, right.
I bet he had the GMs arm twisted real good when he 'forced' the Cavs to sign these current players too.

Talk about needing to grow up. You should realize the NBA is a business. You mention nothing about how he forced Gilbert to rake in all that revenue that is purely and solely a DIRECT result of LeBron being there. And you forgot how he forced all his team mates to accept that Championship ring and trophy. What about how LeBron forces his teammates to do more TV time, more playoff games, more playoff game checks and more off court opportunities.
Some more childish non-facts you posted:
You think LeBron controls all social media. You're guessing LeBron leaked the request. You talk like LeBron getting his coworkers more money is a bad thing or that other players would think LeBron is bad because he got some teammates signed to long expensive contracts. LeBron stick the team with bad players on bad contracts... is not the players perspective. I hate to spoil it for you son, but every player isn't trying to win the title. Apparently it don't matter to Kyrie.

And if you want to talk about ignorant. Realize that at work, you don't always pick and choose where you work or with who you work. Realize that as a man you sign a contract and you honor said contract. Every time LeBron changed teams he had earned free agency.

Poor Kyrie. LeBron hurt his feelings by being all better than him and stuff.

[Biff]

Not many players could own Golden State the way he did in 2016. Do you think if you replaced him with Demar Derozan that team would still win?

I'm not a Demar Derozan fan either so that doesn't matter to me but probably not. Derozan is another scorer that doesn't play defense. The Raptors defense is +5.6 with Derozan sitting. Kyrie is probably better than Derozan but I wouldn't be trading away 2 way players for either of them.

Me neither. But you got to admit, Lebron chose to defer to Kyrie in 2016 in clutch situations -- notably game 7 -- and it paid off. Golden State needed an assassin like that, who can just kill it in iso situations, and now that they have it they look unbeatable. I like Lebron as a player and as a person, but I don't like how, as a teammate, he has such gravity in the sense that he's acting like he's God's gift to the city of Cleveland and the team that calls it home. At the end of the day, he's just another man in a jersey.

Kyrie played his role very well during that stretch. And though he played better defense than usual on Curry, Curry was also significantly hampered by knee and ankle issues. Just go look at Curry's On/Off from the 2016 playoffs, they were nothing close to what they have been in any of the recent years. The Warriors were actually -2.7 with Curry playing in last year's playoffs. He was +22.2 in the regular season (and +17.5 in 16-17 and +20.6 in the 2017 playoffs). Clearly something was wrong and made it much easier for the Cavs to defend him.