Eric Bledsoe

NTB · Post #581 » by **NTB** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:20 am

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Fo-Real · Post #582 » by **Fo-Real** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:16 pm

He looked very efficient, have no problems keeping him.

starbosa10 · Post #583 » by **starbosa10** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:10 pm

I'm fine either way. If we get a great deal with him involved then sure, but more than happy to keep him

Dupp · Post #584 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:25 am

So a lot of chatter about Bledsoe. I dunno if we end up with him but in case we do can i have some input on him from you guys?

Last season he got shut down early. Reports were he wasnt even injured but that never made sense to me. What player would agree to that? So if im correct why was he shut down so early?

NTB · Post #585 » by **NTB** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:32 am

Dupp wrote:So a lot of chatter about Bledsoe. I dunno if we end up with him but in case we do can i have some input on him from you guys?

Last season he got shut down early. Reports were he wasnt even injured but that never made sense to me. What player would agree to that? So if im correct why was he shut down so early?

He didn't agree and he actually still complains about that. He wasn't injured.

Saberestar · Post #586 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:38 am

Dupp wrote:So a lot of chatter about Bledsoe. I dunno if we end up with him but in case we do can i have some input on him from you guys?

Last season he got shut down early. Reports were he wasnt even injured but that never made sense to me. What player would agree to that? So if im correct why was he shut down so early?

He wanted to play, but he could not make anything.

We wanted to lose games (even more) to have better options at the lottery.

Post #587 » by **batsmasher** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:22 am

Saberestar wrote:
Dupp wrote:So a lot of chatter about Bledsoe. I dunno if we end up with him but in case we do can i have some input on him from you guys?

Last season he got shut down early. Reports were he wasnt even injured but that never made sense to me. What player would agree to that? So if im correct why was he shut down so early?

He wanted to play, but he could not make anything.

We wanted to lose games (even more) to have better options at the lottery.

Also we wrapped him in cotton wool so a team such as the Cleveland Cavaliers could come along and swoop up a healthy Bled. Too much downside to risking a guy in his prime when there is no need for him to play.

If Bled had done a knee, we'd have an incredibly hard time rehabbing any value.

Post #588 » by **Qwigglez** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:25 am

^Pretty much this!
We shut him down so we can have a higher chance of getting Jackson at No 1. We ended up with the 4th pick and still got Jackson! Bledsoe's a hard worker and has been improving every year. He even goes on FB live and talks to fans. Though he did curse a lot, but it was cool because he recognized a lot of fans who said whats up. To me, that shows humility and that he's a down to (flat) earth kind of person.

sunskerr · Post #589 » by **sunskerr** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:47 am

Eric Bledsoe has helped turn this franchise around. I know that sounds silly to say given that we are always lottery contenders but it's true. We acquired him in the summer of 2013 when we were really, really hurting for talent. McDonough traded for him and he together with Dragic got us winning again. We royally **** up that awesome back court, but make no mistake, the trade for Bledsoe was the turning point from the dark days of Josh Childress, Shannon Brown and Michael Beasley.

Dupp · Post #590 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:56 am

batsmasher wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Dupp wrote:So a lot of chatter about Bledsoe. I dunno if we end up with him but in case we do can i have some input on him from you guys?

Last season he got shut down early. Reports were he wasnt even injured but that never made sense to me. What player would agree to that? So if im correct why was he shut down so early?

He wanted to play, but he could not make anything.

We wanted to lose games (even more) to have better options at the lottery.

Also we wrapped him in cotton wool so a team such as the Cleveland Cavaliers could come along and swoop up a healthy Bled. Too much downside to risking a guy in his prime when there is no need for him to play.

If Bled had done a knee, we'd have an incredibly hard time rehabbing any value.

This is my concern and why i posed the original question. Arent both his knees basically gone anyway? Hoping if we get him we at least get next season out of him.

Moochthemonkey · Post #591 » by **Moochthemonkey** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:16 pm

Dupp wrote:
batsmasher wrote:
Saberestar wrote:He wanted to play, but he could not make anything.

We wanted to lose games (even more) to have better options at the lottery.

Also we wrapped him in cotton wool so a team such as the Cleveland Cavaliers could come along and swoop up a healthy Bled. Too much downside to risking a guy in his prime when there is no need for him to play.

If Bled had done a knee, we'd have an incredibly hard time rehabbing any value.

This is my concern and why i posed the original question. Arent both his knees basically gone anyway? Hoping if we get him we at least get next season out of him.

not anymore gone than Wade's knees when Lebron joined him at age 28 (Bledsoe will be 28 in December) in 2010. Bledsoe has literally had a meniscus surgery every other season he's been in the league (so if you follow the trend here he's due for one- I believe one knee still has a repaired meniscus) but even so it hasn't seemed to effect his play on court; last year was his best season.

IMO the safest option for the Cavs here would be to try to mend the situation with Irving before making a trade, atleast wait until the trade deadline and if things are still up in the air with Kyrie and Bledsoe isn't injured then you make the move.

Dupp · Post #592 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:44 pm

Moochthemonkey wrote:IMO the safest option for the Cavs here would be to try to mend the situation with Irving before making a trade, atleast wait until the trade deadline and if things are still up in the air with Kyrie and Bledsoe isn't injured then you make the move.

I'd like that but not sure its gonna be possible. Den is someone to be stubborn though.

Post #593 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:35 pm

Dupp wrote:So a lot of chatter about Bledsoe. I dunno if we end up with him but in case we do can i have some input on him from you guys?

Last season he got shut down early. Reports were he wasnt even injured but that never made sense to me. What player would agree to that? So if im correct why was he shut down so early?

The official story from the front office was that since we were eliminated from the playoff race, they wanted to see our young guys, and let them play and see what we had and what position we might need to address in the draft. With the deep group of point guards I do think they really wanted to get a good look at Ulis with potential future starters, etc. A by product of that, was obviously that we would likely get a better pick and not risk injury to Bledsoe, but of course they didn't state that.

Post #594 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Aug 2, 2017 5:01 am

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Post #595 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:59 pm

Everyone's favorite thing...#NBARank

37. Eric Bledsoe

Last year's rank: 43

2017-18 projected RPM: 2.63

Stats & Info: In four seasons in Phoenix, Bledsoe has averaged more than 18 points, six assists and four rebounds, making him one of nine players to reach those marks over that span. Bledsoe is the only one of that group who has not made an All-Star team. He's coming off a season in which he set career highs in PPG, RPG, APG, player efficiency rating and usage rate while also posting the lowest turnover rate of his career.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank3150/nbarank-players-31-50

Walt_Uoob · Post #596 » by **Walt_Uoob** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:43 pm

The new lotto rules (if they pass) give us even more reason to trade bled imo, if only slightly. The flattened odds starting in 2019 mean most teams' future picks are slightly more valuable now, and the temptation to tank in the last year of the current system is even higher now too. I'd now trade him for two unprotected future picks from pretty much any team.

LukasBMW · Post #597 » by **LukasBMW** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:40 pm

Walt_Uoob wrote:The new lotto rules (if they pass) give us even more reason to trade bled imo, if only slightly. The flattened odds starting in 2019 mean most teams' future picks are slightly more valuable now, and the temptation to tank in the last year of the current system is even higher now too. I'd now trade him for two unprotected future picks from pretty much any team.

Interesting take.

Those Miami picks could be gold.

Wouldn't hurt to grab two more.

Bogyo · Post #598 » by **Bogyo** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:09 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
Walt_Uoob wrote:The new lotto rules (if they pass) give us even more reason to trade bled imo, if only slightly. The flattened odds starting in 2019 mean most teams' future picks are slightly more valuable now, and the temptation to tank in the last year of the current system is even higher now too. I'd now trade him for two unprotected future picks from pretty much any team.

Interesting take.

Those Miami picks could be gold.

Wouldn't hurt to grab two more.

Very good take, actually. Although I don't think that after this lottery change we'll get 2 (lightly protected) picks for Bled (and his knees, and the wonderful opportunity to "negotiate" with Rich Paul next offseason).

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #599 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:57 pm

Walt_Uoob wrote:The new lotto rules (if they pass) give us even more reason to trade bled imo, if only slightly. The flattened odds starting in 2019 mean most teams' future picks are slightly more valuable now, and the temptation to tank in the last year of the current system is even higher now too. I'd now trade him for two unprotected future picks from pretty much any team.

I think that featuring Book and Bled is going to keep JJ from playing too big a role right off the bat, and we're likely to start Chriss and Chandler ahead of Williams and Bender,. Looking at the lineup, I think we're likely to struggle even with Bled. I think the sooner JJ becomes one our featured guys, the sooner we'll be a pretty good team. I just think that is less likely to happen with Bledsoe around.

I think there are probably only two teams that strongly want Bledsoe as of today: the Clippers and the Nuggets. The question there will be, Who wants to go to the second round the most? Because unless the Grizz are trading Mike Conley, we have the prime trade deadline target. And even again, I'm sure LAC will give Pat Beverley the chance to prove he's a top-15 starter in this league, and if he's successful before the deadline and the chemistry is stable, the Clips will just stay where they are. If we're down to the Nuggets as suitors - well, certainly it looks like we'd have been better off taking trading Bled for Mudiay and the BPA at #13 last year, doesn't it? I'd certainly trade Bledsoe for Donovan Mitchell right now, and if I'm the Jazz, I'd certainly be laughing at that offer! Hindsight is certainly closer to 20/20, but would you trade Bledsoe for only one lightly protected Nugs' first? I probably wouldn't. But that's probably what McD turned down.

This is all to say that I'm ambivalent. I think we have enough talent right now to begin our ascension, but it would be a whole lot easier if we were able to add a top tier big man via the draft (especially if there will be several of them in the NBA in a few years' time). But maybe we'll get a great player anyways, because butterflies flap their wings. And heck, if the market for Bled isn't that insane, maybe we are able to re-sign him at a reasonable salary (especially if LAC isn't that interested!).

This has been a circular post. I think Ryan McD has a well-diversified collection of players and assets, and we can continue to lay back and watch things unfold. I'm open to keeping Bledsoe and attempting to re-sign him, and I'm open to trading him as well but at a reasonable price. I think our bright future is about as well-secured at it can get in this business right now, and we'll all just have to continue to be patient.

GO SUNS!!!

jcsunsfan · Post #600 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:06 am

cosmofizzo wrote:
Walt_Uoob wrote:The new lotto rules (if they pass) give us even more reason to trade bled imo, if only slightly. The flattened odds starting in 2019 mean most teams' future picks are slightly more valuable now, and the temptation to tank in the last year of the current system is even higher now too. I'd now trade him for two unprotected future picks from pretty much any team.

I think that featuring Book and Bled is going to keep JJ from playing too big a role right off the bat, and we're likely to start Chriss and Chandler ahead of Williams and Bender,. Looking at the lineup, I think we're likely to struggle even with Bled. I think the sooner JJ becomes one our featured guys, the sooner we'll be a pretty good team. I just think that is less likely to happen with Bledsoe around.

GO SUNS!!!

I don't think this is the case (your first sentence about keeping JJ's role limited right off the bat). JJ adds something that complements the games of Bledsoe and Book better than TJ's does. JJ is hands down a better defender than TJ, Book, and probably Bledsoe. He is probably also the better rebounder of the bunch. TJ has a remarkable ability to score in the midrange, but unless he steps up his defense and rebounding, JJ is going to take over pretty quickly. The fact that you have a poor defender on the court in Booker raises the possiblity of JJ playing, and I don't think Bledsoe impacts that decision at all.

Its kind of odd. I am disagreeing with you and agreeing with you at tyhe same time.