Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion #5: A Serving of Irving?

[BucksPackers]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

No! I don't want any injured players...Amare and Bledsoe gave me enough of that.

You are trading an injury guy for a younger more upside injury guy though lol.

[8on]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

I'm not entirely off the LMA train. There's, like, a 27% chance Cavs would consider this. Parker and Henson isn't a bad return for those two assets.

[Puff]

Ray Ray has details about potential/discussed trades. It helps this board better understand what is going on behind the scenes.

If you want bombshells then follow Woj. Otherwise just take it as a rumor.

I am not being a dick about anything. You are being a dick.

I just don't see ray ray as some super hero, like some of you do.

I enjoy his posts but in no way shape or form do I think he has more info than what we get from many other sources.

Just answer my question.

What trade has he predicted correctly in recent memory?

Oh, you can't.

Let's just move on.

To some of us, Rays posts are comforting. Dont know if he is legit, but some of us really like when he chimes in on what he says he has heard. Its annoying to hear people complain about it. In his posts he gives info and also tells of fluid situations, never "hey, this is what is about to happen", just this is the subject of conversation with the team. Things evolve and some dont, not keeping score, but I appreciate his posts and hate reading people attacking anyone over this dumb ****.

We constantly question the validity of information that comes to this board, even if it is from credentialed sports writers. That is what we do. Usually if someone boasts about some information that has not been published, we ask for a link.

I am not attacking anyone. That is not my intention at all.

However, I do not appreciate your personal attack on me.

To repeat, I enjoy Ray Ray's posts. I just do not think he is the super insider that some people believe.

If he is, give me a link.

[gaspar]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

This is horrendous. We don't need Jabari, we have JJ, Chriss, Warren and Bender. Oh, and he's injured and has an expiring contract this season. Henson wouldn't even crack the Suns rotation and he has a really bad long term contract. Just awful.

[Waylay13]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

I think I am missing something Bledsoe is the Suns best player and started right up to the All star break when he was benched to let the young guys develop and he is a point guard who averaged 20, 6 and 5. yet you believe that we are being helped by getting back Parker who is small forward which we have two really good places at in Warren and Jackson.

[BucksPackers]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

This is horrendous. We don't need Jabari, we have JJ, Chriss, Warren and Bender. Oh, and he's injured and has an expiring contract this season. Henson wouldn't even crack the Suns rotation and he has a really bad long term contract. Just awful.

Parker healthy is better than all those u just named lol. Booker- Jackson- Parker is a great core to build from. And no one call Josh Jackson "JJ" that is already Joe Johnson lol.

[BucksPackers]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

I think I am missing something Bledsoe is the Suns best player and started right up to the All star break when he was benched to let the young guys develop and he is a point guard who averaged 20, 6 and 5. yet you believe that we are being helped by getting back Parker who is small forward which we have two really good places at in Warren and Jackson.

Bledsoe isn't a part of your future. Parker is 22 and has all star talent. You guys are 5 years from competing in the West Parker would fit that time table more than Bledsoe. All ur giving up is a guy your not moving forward with.

[gaspar]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

This is horrendous. We don't need Jabari, we have JJ, Chriss, Warren and Bender. Oh, and he's injured and has an expiring contract this season. Henson wouldn't even crack the Suns rotation and he has a really bad long term contract. Just awful.

Parker healthy is better than all those u just named lol. Booker- Jackson- Parker is a great core to build from.

Parker most likely will never be healthy again and even when healthy, he wasn't anything special.

[Kerrsed]

Well with the latest news, Irvings price just dropped. If its true that he's not willing to commit to an extension, then Cav's wont be getting **** in return.

But with that being said, something tells me that he is doing this for his and our benefit. He doesnt want to be traded to a team that will be gutted of talent to acquire him, so him and his agent know that if they put that info out there (Wont re-sign) they know that his asking price to the Cav's will be a lot lower and he wont be stuck on a team that just traded all their talent away for him. Look, he wants to leave Cleveland, thats a fact. Every few days he does something new to reiterate that fact. He knows (Just like we all know) that Cleveland is trying to trade him, but teams are really hesitant because word is that they are asking for way damn too much in return, so the process has been delayed. His agent pulls a stunt like this, makes his value dip more so the Cav's will have to give in on what teams are actually offering instead of holding out and playing hardball.

Still, 2 years of Irving is still 2 years, and i would take that over 2 years of Bledsoe and having the opportunity to give him a max contract later on. I just dont see paying Bledsoe all that money, so you get what you can when his value is the highest, and right now its at its highest.

Cleveland wants Bledsoe/JJ/Our 1st.

With Irvings camp saying he wont commit to resigning, that drops his value down to possibly what we have been offering (Bledsoe/Chriss or Warren)/MIA 1st.

Irving is trying to force Clevelands hand into accepting our offer by doing this.

Thank you Irving, thank you for trying to keep our team intact for your arrival!

[Sunzgunz]

(Edited) Here's a trade rumor New Yorker' s were going back and forth on Reddit:

Phx out:
Eric Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler,

Phx in:
Frank ntilikina, channing frye

Houston out:
Ryan Anderson, Trevor ariza

Houston in:
Carmelo anthony, Richard jefferson

New York out:
Carmelo anthony, Frank Ntilikina, 1st round pick

New York in:
Kyrie irving, Ryan Anderson

Cleveland out:
Kyrie irving, Richard jefferson, channing frye

Cleveland in:
Eric Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler, Trevor ariza, 2018 1st round pick pick/knicks

*I thought it looked decent initially (albeit just a rumor) but good Call on Ryan Anderson, he was on the wrong team, lol. I typed it by memory and put him in the wrong spot! ...sorry! ...I didn't bother with the math, but someone said it works.

[BucksPackers]

This is horrendous. We don't need Jabari, we have JJ, Chriss, Warren and Bender. Oh, and he's injured and has an expiring contract this season. Henson wouldn't even crack the Suns rotation and he has a really bad long term contract. Just awful.

Parker healthy is better than all those u just named lol. Booker- Jackson- Parker is a great core to build from.

Parker most likely will never be healthy again and even when healthy, he wasn't anything special.

Parker was 20-6-3 before he got hurt at 21 years old lol................

[gaspar]

Bucks fan here.

Would you consider this package....

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9n2fzfd

Milwaukee gets: Frye, Love, D Murray
Milwaukee gives: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe

Lineup: Brog, Mids, Giannis, Love, Thon

Cavs get: LA, Monroe, Bledsoe, lotto protect 2018 first from the spurs and suns 2018 heat first round pick
Cavs give: Love, Frye, Kyrie

Lineup: Bledsoe, JR, Bron, LA, Monroe/TT

Suns get: Parker, Henson
Suns give: Bledsoe, 2018 heat pick

Lineup: Doesn't change but add Parker to their young core

Spurs get: Kyrie, Delly
Spurs give: LA, Murray and 2018 first lotto protected

Lineup: Kyrie, Green, Gay,Kahwi, Pau

This would help out all teams............

I think I am missing something Bledsoe is the Suns best player and started right up to the All star break when he was benched to let the young guys develop and he is a point guard who averaged 20, 6 and 5. yet you believe that we are being helped by getting back Parker who is small forward which we have two really good places at in Warren and Jackson.

Bledsoe isn't a part of your future. Parker is 22 and has all star talent. You guys are 5 years from competing in the West Parker would fit that time table more than Bledsoe. All ur giving up is a guy your not moving forward with.

No one would trade Heat's pick for a guy on an expiring contract who could miss whole next season. And on top of that, we have to swap Bledsoe for Henson? No, thanks.

[gaspar]

Parker healthy is better than all those u just named lol. Booker- Jackson- Parker is a great core to build from.

Parker most likely will never be healthy again and even when healthy, he wasn't anything special.

Parker was 20-6-3 before he got hurt at 21 years old lol................

If he's so great, you should just keep him.

[BucksPackers]

Parker most likely will never be healthy again and even when healthy, he wasn't anything special.

Parker was 20-6-3 before he got hurt at 21 years old lol................

If he's so great, you should just keep him.

Ya you keep Bledsoe too lol......... You guys are going to do great out West.

[gaspar]

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Is this some cryptic message? Is Reed packing his bags?

[thamadkant]

I said it earlier but...

Suns was willing to trade Bledsoe and Pick 4 for Irving before the draft. As they were thinking only Tatum or Fox would be there.

But since Jackson dropped. He's off the table.

Its like that Curry and Amare deal.



Now Irving doesn't want to commit in writing and verbally so Cavs don't gut the team that trade for him... Example: Knicks and Nuggets with Melo.

He's smart and he wants Cavs to trade him for minimum...

Great.

[TOO]

Parker was 20-6-3 before he got hurt at 21 years old lol................

If he's so great, you should just keep him.

Ya you keep Bledsoe too lol......... You guys are going to do great out West.

To be fair, everyone in both conferences is just lining up to lose to the Warriors at some point.

[matt131]

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Is this some cryptic message? Is Reed packing his bags?

lol what in the world does that even mean haha


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[AZWildByNature]

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lol what in the world does that even mean haha


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His Twitter Account does not mention the Suns... Very Interesting...

[jcsunsfan]

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Is this some cryptic message? Is Reed packing his bags?

Colorado vacation?