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Re: RE: Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1021 » by Mrcrockpots » Tue Aug 8, 2017 6:06 pm

Misteclipse wrote:
mcscotty wrote:I think Fultz is the top prospect on this team. Him and Saric are the future. OK4, Embiid, and Simmons lack the maturity and mental fortitude to realize their potential and will never be winners in this league.

Lmao. Lakers fans man.

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Hilarious. Lakers fans are the best. They always give me a good laugh.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1022 » by the_process » Tue Aug 8, 2017 7:32 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Tatum admits he would have been the top pick. I know people want to say he says that only because the Celtics said it and what else would you expect them to say. But it seems that Tatum would have gone first. It was very obvious Ainge didn't want Fultz. That's why he was trying to trade down. The Lakers weren't going to take Fultz. BC overpaid for Fultz. He would have been there with the 3rd pick. BC gave up a very valuable asset to a rival . Fultz was not going to get picked by Boston. I'm sure if it. I never liked the trade and stil don't. BC traded up and may have gotten a worse player. If Fultz isn't worse then the trade up didn't warrant what he had to give up.

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“The Celtics were always going to pick me at No. 1,” he said on a podcast Tuesday.

He explained the situation further:

Philly didn’t know that. Philly thought Boston was going to pick Markelle, so Philly traded the pick and gave Boston a pick for next year. So Boston was like, ‘Well, we can still get the player we want, a next year’s pick, and then we get the player we wanted for less money.’ So Boston still got all that they wanted, and Philly had to give up something. But Philly didn’t know that Boston was going to pick me, so that’s why they traded up.


For the record, this is 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt Danny lying to Tatum, but Tatum licking it up anyway like a good lap dog.

I will be so glad when the season starts and the baffling Fultz bashing can end.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1023 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Aug 8, 2017 7:57 pm

the_process wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Tatum admits he would have been the top pick. I know people want to say he says that only because the Celtics said it and what else would you expect them to say. But it seems that Tatum would have gone first. It was very obvious Ainge didn't want Fultz. That's why he was trying to trade down. The Lakers weren't going to take Fultz. BC overpaid for Fultz. He would have been there with the 3rd pick. BC gave up a very valuable asset to a rival . Fultz was not going to get picked by Boston. I'm sure if it. I never liked the trade and stil don't. BC traded up and may have gotten a worse player. If Fultz isn't worse then the trade up didn't warrant what he had to give up.

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“The Celtics were always going to pick me at No. 1,” he said on a podcast Tuesday.

He explained the situation further:

Philly didn’t know that. Philly thought Boston was going to pick Markelle, so Philly traded the pick and gave Boston a pick for next year. So Boston was like, ‘Well, we can still get the player we want, a next year’s pick, and then we get the player we wanted for less money.’ So Boston still got all that they wanted, and Philly had to give up something. But Philly didn’t know that Boston was going to pick me, so that’s why they traded up.


For the record, this is 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt Danny lying to Tatum, but Tatum licking it up anyway like a good lap dog.

I will be so glad when the season starts and the baffling Fultz bashing can end.


Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1024 » by europeanfan » Tue Aug 8, 2017 8:03 pm

These guys take a lot of pride from how high they were drafted, Tatum is wrong (Ainge would have traded with someone else) but it's no big deal, if anything it's another thing that will motivate Markelle : Lonzo and Simmons get all the hype, Tatum says he was the real number 1, Dennis Smith got more money on his shoe deal and no one ever talks about him. Show everyone what's up when the season starts.

The one thing that's true is that Ainge didn't want Fultz and Ball, but it has almost nothing to do with Tatum.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1025 » by europeanfan » Tue Aug 8, 2017 8:12 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.


He was never anything but number 1 at draftexpress and a number of other scouting sites.

And in the few rankings where when he wasn't, Ball was the one overtaking him.

So Ainge was the 0.01% who didn't like the top 2 picks and had to trade down not to look like a dumbass. He would have traded with the Suns for sure, maybe even lower. Anyway you can repeat it as many times as you want it won't make it true.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1026 » by the_process » Tue Aug 8, 2017 8:43 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Tatum admits he would have been the top pick. I know people want to say he says that only because the Celtics said it and what else would you expect them to say. But it seems that Tatum would have gone first. It was very obvious Ainge didn't want Fultz. That's why he was trying to trade down. The Lakers weren't going to take Fultz. BC overpaid for Fultz. He would have been there with the 3rd pick. BC gave up a very valuable asset to a rival . Fultz was not going to get picked by Boston. I'm sure if it. I never liked the trade and stil don't. BC traded up and may have gotten a worse player. If Fultz isn't worse then the trade up didn't warrant what he had to give up.

Read on Twitter




For the record, this is 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt Danny lying to Tatum, but Tatum licking it up anyway like a good lap dog.

I will be so glad when the season starts and the baffling Fultz bashing can end.


Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.


Agreed Ainge didn't really want Fultz, because taking him was tantamount to saying he wasn't re-signing IT. And obviously Hayward didn't want to hear that. Because almost always max level FA's don't want to hear about building around rookies.

However, the Lakers would've taken Fultz ahead of Ball IMO. BC decided it was worth giving up something to make certain he got the guy he wanted. The guy who fit perfectly with the Sixers roster. The guy who was the consensus best player in the draft and has done nothing to dispel that idea.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1027 » by Gsraider » Tue Aug 8, 2017 8:54 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.


The only thing that was obvious was that unlike Hinkie, who kept taking centers because he thought they were the BPA's when Philly picked, Ainge did not want to add to the logjam at guard he already had. It is not remotely obvious that he did not think Fultz was a better overall prospect than Ball, Jackson or Tatum. It is also not remotely obvious that LA wouldn't have taken Fultz at #2 unless you just want to cherry pick the reports that you believe.

Since you are so sure of things, I'm equally sure that Ainge was NEVER going to keep the #1 pick and use it on someone other than Fultz. For example, if BC wasn't really budging, in the end Ainge may have settled on another #1 from Philly. He might have made a deal with Phoenix. He could have extracted something small perhaps from LA. Whatever the case, it would have been incredibly simple for him to move back at any point. If you think he was playing poker however, and would have taken Tatum at #1, I'm just as sure as you are that he wouldn't have.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1028 » by eyeatoma » Tue Aug 8, 2017 9:04 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Tatum admits he would have been the top pick. I know people want to say he says that only because the Celtics said it and what else would you expect them to say. But it seems that Tatum would have gone first. It was very obvious Ainge didn't want Fultz. That's why he was trying to trade down. The Lakers weren't going to take Fultz. BC overpaid for Fultz. He would have been there with the 3rd pick. BC gave up a very valuable asset to a rival . Fultz was not going to get picked by Boston. I'm sure if it. I never liked the trade and stil don't. BC traded up and may have gotten a worse player. If Fultz isn't worse then the trade up didn't warrant what he had to give up.

Read on Twitter




For the record, this is 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt Danny lying to Tatum, but Tatum licking it up anyway like a good lap dog.

I will be so glad when the season starts and the baffling Fultz bashing can end.


Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.


Congratulations captain obvious... All you've been able to prove is that Ainge continues his terrible record of evaluating draft talent....
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1029 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Aug 8, 2017 9:16 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
the_process wrote:
For the record, this is 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt Danny lying to Tatum, but Tatum licking it up anyway like a good lap dog.

I will be so glad when the season starts and the baffling Fultz bashing can end.


Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.


Congratulations captain obvious... All you've been able to prove is that Ainge continues his terrible record of evaluating draft talent....


That's not my point. I agree Ainge is a horrible drafter. My point is that if BC would have stayed where he was he would have landed Fultz. Phoenix would not have traded up to 1. They weren't going to give up a lot. Ainge wasn't going to move down lower than 4. BC had Ainge right where he wanted him. He should have called his bluff and forced Ainge's hand and made him take someone at 1. He should have dared Ainge to draft Tatum first. We were in a great spot at 3 and could have had Fultz if Tatum and Ball go 1 and 2 or any other combo we could have gotten Jackson or someone else. Bottom line is BC got scared and caved in and gave up a valuable pick to an arch rival.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1030 » by LongLiveHinkie » Tue Aug 8, 2017 9:46 pm

If Ainge didn't take Fultz at one, and we didn't trade up, he would have traded it to someone else at 1 or the Lakers would have taken him at 2.

Woj and Marc Spears reported that around the time we made the deal.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1031 » by eyeatoma » Tue Aug 8, 2017 9:54 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
Yes Ainge lies but it was VERY obvious he did NOT want to draft Fultz. DID NOT. He wanted out of the top spot. If he had no takers he wasn't going to take Fultz. Fultz was going to be there at 3. I'm sure of it.


Congratulations captain obvious... All you've been able to prove is that Ainge continues his terrible record of evaluating draft talent....


That's not my point. I agree Ainge is a horrible drafter. My point is that if BC would have stayed where he was he would have landed Fultz. Phoenix would not have traded up to 1. They weren't going to give up a lot. Ainge wasn't going to move down lower than 4. BC had Ainge right where he wanted him. He should have called his bluff and forced Ainge's hand and made him take someone at 1. He should have dared Ainge to draft Tatum first. We were in a great spot at 3 and could have had Fultz if Tatum and Ball go 1 and 2 or any other combo we could have gotten Jackson or someone else. Bottom line is BC got scared and caved in and gave up a valuable pick to an arch rival.


There's no guarantee that the Lakers would have selected Ball... Just as someone said before, and what has been reported numerous times, the Lakers loved Fultz... Why take that risk? If you know who you want, go get him... There was no one in the next draft that would have plugged in at guard, who would have been as a perfect a fit as Fultz... It's a big man draft... We don't need them..
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1032 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:24 pm

Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1033 » by Sixerscan » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:34 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

Or what
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1034 » by Att » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:39 pm

Or BC **** up big time. Which he did.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1035 » by LongLiveHinkie » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:39 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

Or what


A year full of repetitive hyperbolic Lonzo Ball hot takes.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1036 » by LloydFree » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:48 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

:lol: I don't think your demand will be met.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1037 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:55 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

:lol: I don't think your demand will be met.


I could never envision a world where I hate on my own teams number 1 overall pick before he even plays a game :crazy:
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1038 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:59 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

Or what


Or I'll make a very angry post about it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1039 » by the_process » Tue Aug 8, 2017 11:59 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

Or what


Or I'll make a very angry post about it.


This had me laughing pretty good. Well played.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1040 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Aug 9, 2017 12:21 am

Sixerscan wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz better ball out. I demand he become the best player in the draft.

Or what


If not he will spam the Fultz thread on realgm.

Wait wut?

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