Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion #5: A Serving of Irving?

matt131 · Post #1781 » by **matt131** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:27 pm

Fo-Real · Post #1782 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:34 pm

carey wrote:What's up guys? Are we still talking about Kyrie?

That new car smell/ strike while the iron is hot feel is GONE. They gave us too much time to consider the drawbacks instead of getting us while we were on fire for Kyrie. I hope we dont.

In2ition · Post #1783 » by **In2ition** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:41 pm

Bledsoe and Dudley for Irving and then these new unis are :rockon:

NTB · Post #1784 » by **NTB** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:16 pm

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bwoolf2 · Post #1785 » by **bwoolf2** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:23 pm

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Make it a 4 team trade.

Irving to NY

Melo to Houston

Bledsoe, Lee, Ryan Anderson, Miami 1st, NY 1st to CLE

Ntkilia and Frye to PHX

Saberestar · Post #1786 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:26 pm

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Sunzgunz · Post #1787 » by **Sunzgunz** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:26 pm

New report says kyrie went a couple days without talking to any teammates during playoffs. Now it's not a Superstar Bron/Kyrie thing, if true, its a kyrie/Everybody thing. Could appear Bron is completely justified in saying get rid of him!

Also

Knicks reengaged trade talks with Houston, Melo says he still has no desire to be any part of cavs organization, ala Jimmy butler.

I THINK THE KYRIE THING HAPPENS SOON!!! I'm not saying necessarily to Phx, but somewhere, I don't think the Cav's can afford to drag this out much longer!

TOO · Post #1788 » by **TOO** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:28 pm

I find the Ntilikina obsession around here is troubling. Ho hum.

NTB · Post #1789 » by **NTB** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:37 pm

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Sunzgunz · Post #1790 » by **Sunzgunz** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:48 pm

bwoolf2 wrote:
matt131 wrote:

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Make it a 4 team trade.

Irving to NY

Melo to Houston

Bledsoe, Lee, Ryan Anderson, Miami 1st, NY 1st to CLE

Ntkilia and Frye to PHX

I wouldn't be surprised if something likes this happens, but we better not give up Bledsoe AND our Miami 1st round pick for Ntilikina. If anything, Cleveland's sends us their pick w/ Ntilikina if we are sending them Bledsoe.

bwoolf2 · Post #1791 » by **bwoolf2** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:49 pm

TOO wrote:I find the Ntilikina obsession around here is troubling. Ho hum.

I think he is a better fit next to Booker than Irving, and I really dont want to give up a ton of assets for Irving, who has showed himself to be selfish player that doesnt like to play D. He is a great scorer I just dont like the fit, I actually think the best team for him, is the one he is on...

thamadkant · Post #1792 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:50 pm

bwoolf2 wrote:
TOO wrote:I find the Ntilikina obsession around here is troubling. Ho hum.

I think he is a better fit next to Booker than Irving, and I really dont want to give up a ton of assets for Irving, who has showed himself to be selfish player that doesnt like to play D. He is a great scorer I just dont like the fit, I actually think the best team for him, is the one he is on...

Irving would be perfect in Jazz.... surrounded by 4 players with defensive mentality... it'll be like a modern version of 76ers Iverson days except the defenders who can shoot 3 can play multiple positions.

Post #1793 » by **ATTL** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:32 pm

bwoolf2 wrote:
matt131 wrote:

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Make it a 4 team trade.

Irving to NY

Melo to Houston

Bledsoe, Lee, Ryan Anderson, Miami 1st, NY 1st to CLE

Ntkilia and Frye to PHX

I dont see the suns trading a Miami first without getting kyrie back.

JJ13 · Post #1794 » by **JJ13** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:32 pm

Why on earth would we trade Bledsoe, a 21-5-6 defensive PG, AND the Miami pick for the 4th (??) PG in the draft and Channing Frye? And don't say "because youth"! Bledsoe's value is a lot higher than French-Frye...give us the NY pick and I'm in though.

And don't forget Channing and Sarver don't like each other -- look it up, Sarver ripped Channing for leaving followed by Frye ripping Sarver. Frye ain't coming back.

TeamTragic · Post #1795 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:46 pm

JJ13 wrote:Why on earth would we trade Bledsoe, a 21-5-6 defensive PG, AND the Miami pick for the 4th (??) PG in the draft and Channing Frye? And don't say "because youth"! Bledsoe's value is a lot higher than French-Frye...give us the NY pick and I'm in though.

And don't forget Channing and Sarver don't like each other -- look it up, Sarver ripped Channing for leaving followed by Frye ripping Sarver. Frye ain't coming back.

We need at least one pick back. I would prefer two picks. Can we waive Frye?

AtheJ415 · Post #1796 » by **AtheJ415** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:06 am

GoranTragic wrote:
JJ13 wrote:Why on earth would we trade Bledsoe, a 21-5-6 defensive PG, AND the Miami pick for the 4th (??) PG in the draft and Channing Frye? And don't say "because youth"! Bledsoe's value is a lot higher than French-Frye...give us the NY pick and I'm in though.

And don't forget Channing and Sarver don't like each other -- look it up, Sarver ripped Channing for leaving followed by Frye ripping Sarver. Frye ain't coming back.

We need at least one pick back. I would prefer two picks. Can we waive Frye?

We could waive Frye. He's expiring anyways, but we might be able to get a 2nd rounder from a contender for him near the deadline due to his shooting.

I would trade Bled for Frank even though I think it's uneven for us just because youth is the better fit. I would not be including picks as well though. I think the most fair is Bled for Frank and NYK 1st, but would accept Bled for Frank straight up (that is, assuming there is no way to get Irving for Bled plus some other minor assets).

DirtyDez · Post #1797 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:15 am

Sunzgunz wrote:New report says kyrie went a couple days without talking to any teammates during playoffs. Now it's not a Superstar Bron/Kyrie thing, if true, its a kyrie/Everybody thing. Could appear Bron is completely justified in saying get rid of him!

Also

Knicks reengaged trade talks with Houston, Melo says he still has no desire to be any part of cavs organization, ala Jimmy butler.

I THINK THE KYRIE THING HAPPENS SOON!!! I'm not saying necessarily to Phx, but somewhere, I don't think the Cav's can afford to drag this out much longer!

I just listened to the podcast. Definitely seems like James Jones leaked that info to McMenamin. He basically admitted it without admitting it.

Not sure what to make of it. Considering the Suns made an offer (albeit a lowball offer) seems that not worried about chemistry issues. I also think Irving and Jones have been in communication indirectly or thru "back channels".

McMenamin also says they could go into the season with Kyrie and pull off a Wiggins deal when Teague is eligible to be traded. The Wolves owner recently said he wants to see more from Wiggins before giving him a max deal. Butler is very close with Irving and he's been campaigning for him.

Saberestar · Post #1798 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:21 am

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matt131 · Post #1799 » by **matt131** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:30 am

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I think this is fairly old news. That's what amico said in his pod a week ago

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TeamTragic · Post #1800 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:38 am

DirtyDez wrote:
Sunzgunz wrote:New report says kyrie went a couple days without talking to any teammates during playoffs. Now it's not a Superstar Bron/Kyrie thing, if true, its a kyrie/Everybody thing. Could appear Bron is completely justified in saying get rid of him!

Also

Knicks reengaged trade talks with Houston, Melo says he still has no desire to be any part of cavs organization, ala Jimmy butler.

I THINK THE KYRIE THING HAPPENS SOON!!! I'm not saying necessarily to Phx, but somewhere, I don't think the Cav's can afford to drag this out much longer!

I just listened to the podcast. Definitely seems like James Jones leaked that info to McMenamin. He basically admitted it without admitting it.

Not sure what to make of it. Considering the Suns made an offer (albeit a lowball offer) seems that not worried about chemistry issues. I also think Irving and Jones have been in communication indirectly or thru "back channels".

McMenamin also says they could go into the season with Kyrie and pull off a Wiggins deal when Teague is eligible to be traded. The Wolves owner recently said he wants to see more from Wiggins before giving him a max deal. Butler is very close with Irving and he's been campaigning for him.

By that point the Cavaliers team will have imploded :lol: