Mirotic12 wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Another big takeaway is just how ordinary Dragic looks. Most of the time, they dont even try to run plays through him, he just stands in the corner.
Remember that debate we had here about Dragic before? Myself and some others here said he would be nothing more than an average player in EuroLeague. We took a ton of heat for that from NBA fans. but reality is reality. He's a lot like Giannis and Rubio - totally needs NBA rules and reffing to be effective.
Mirotic12 wrote:Do games like this have any bearing or meaning at all? I remember Nick Calathes, at age 20, in his first game with Greek senior NT, had almost a triple double in the first half
A few days ago you were clearly arguing that Doncic’s friendly game stats don’t matter at all, or better yet don’t “have any bearing”. Now you’re trying to argue that Dragic is overrated based on one single friendly game which he pretty much half-assed. So why should friendly games count when we’re talking about Dragic, if they don’t count when we’re talking about Doncic? Ever heard of consistency? You should try it sometimes.
Also, would you mind explaining to me how come Dragic who according to you can’t play FIBA basketball, already made an All-Tournament team under FIBA rules? That was when he single-handedly eliminated Greeks from the competition, so I'm sure you remember that game. If not, let me remind you. That was the game where he completely owned an NBA scrub like Spanoulis on both sides of the floor, hanging 28, 5 and 4 on him and his team. Again, under FIBA rules and in FIBA tournament playoffs. That’s when national teams play the hardest defense and they obviously couldn’t stop Dragic.
He was also the 2nd best scorer and the 2nd most efficient point guard at the last world cup. Dragic has been really good throughout his FIBA career and the numbers clearly show that. That's if we're dealing with facts of course and not just talking out of our collective asses.
FIBA basketball naturally favors the defensive side of the game, but talent is talent wherever it plays. Dragic is good in the NBA and he's good in FIBA. He would easily be the best player in Euroleague, after all he’s clearly better than all Euroleague MVPs. The problem with Rubio and Giannis is that they still can’t shoot, but that’s not the case with Dragic. He just finished another season where he shot over 40% from three (42.7% on pull up threes).
You can't make certain NBA busts like Spanoulis look better just by trashing superior players who proved themselves in the toughest basketball competition there is. Many so called “euro legends” completely failed in the NBA, simply because they couldn’t handle the talent level. Dragic didn’t. Get over it. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you’re going to argue that Sergio Llull, Nando de Colo, Nemanja Bjelica, Segio Rodriguez or Vassilis Spanoullis (last 5 Euroleague MVPs) are better than Dragic… or Giannis… or Rubio… and eventually Doncic as well.
EDIT: Actually, based on this comment you made later…
Mirotic12 wrote:I think Dragic would be Heurtel with a worse jumper.
…I really don’t know why I even took the time to respond. I read it after I posted this and now it’s clear to me that you’re just trolling or have never watched a single NBA game.