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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#21 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:02 pm

Maxing him out would be a classic Doc move and we would regret it immediately. The right choice is to look to trade him.
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#22 » by donemilio21 » Wed Jul 5, 2017 2:52 am

If Horford does not want to play Center, then only C the C's have right now after letting Olynk go and signing Hayward is nobody. right?
I think they'd be interested in Jordan if they really want to compete this year. knowing how reluctant Ainge is in making trades though, I don't really see Clippers and Celtics as good trade partners without involving a 3rd or even a 4th team.
I think, best scenario would be to get Crowder or Bradley + a high draft pick + trade exception for DJ.
If you can't get draft pick(s) and/or useful players in cheap contracts for him, do not trade him.
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#23 » by Quake Griffin » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:31 pm

Bump for it being August 16, 2017 and still wanting to trade him.
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Clippers should be open to trade DJ, but where? 

Post#24 » by og15 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:06 am

There are players who you can take a chance on maxing out when they are 30, some which are an easy decision like Lebron, some which you accept the risks because they will still be excellent up for 33/34. DJ is not one of those players. DJ's agent will not be asking for the 35% of salary cap max because he's not getting that. DJ is a guy that at that age you would be looking to sign him for the 25% max. If he wants the 35% max he won't get more than two years, so that's just not happening.

Depending on what is available the 25% max could be justifiable, but it would be very wise to explore the trade market for him, and I say this as someone who likes him and isn't some DJ hater. I'm not of the mind that trading a player is something you do because you don't like them, but you do have to examine all options and look into the future possibilities.

The actual difficult part is "who can he be traded for that is worth it". That I can't really answer...
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#25 » by Forte IV » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:05 am

The thing is, I can almost guarantee DJ will have a career year. That's just the nature of the NBA. Almost every player who has the chance to be a FA has their best or one of their best years ever. Just look at Trevor Ariza.
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#26 » by JayClips92 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:49 pm

Forte IV wrote:The thing is, I can almost guarantee DJ will have a career year. That's just the nature of the NBA. Almost every player who has the chance to be a FA has their best or one of their best years ever. Just look at Trevor Ariza.

Then maybe that'll up his value at the trade deadline and someone will give up too much trying to make a big push for the second half of the season :D
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#27 » by illastrate » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:31 pm

wassuphomeboy wrote:Keep him if the price is right. I have zero faith in this front office getting fair value for him back in any trade. If they couldn't even get a decent haul for CP3, who is much more highly regarded around the league, they will end up dumping him for a second round pick and cash considerations because hey, he was a second round pick.


Pat Beverley, Lou Williams, Sam Dekker, Montrezl Harrell and a 2018 1st isn't a decent haul for a player who was leaving anyways? :lol:
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Post#28 » by nickhx2 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:22 pm

oh no, i almost forgot about all that
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DJ 28th on Sports Illustrated's Top 100 List 

Post#29 » by Ranma » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:18 pm

Ben Golliver, SI.com (9/13/17)
28. DEANDRE JORDAN, CLIPPERS

Don’t be fooled by his shaky free-throw percentage or the Clippers’ reputation as meltdown artists, Jordan (12.7 PPG, 13.8 RPG, 1.7 BPG) is one of the league’s most dependable producers. It’s freakish, really: The 6’11” center somehow managed to post the exact same scoring, rebounding, assist and turnover averages in 2016-17 as he did the previous season, down to the decimal, en route to All-Star and All-NBA Third Team selections. His game continues to be defined by durability, hyper-efficient finishing, volume rebounding and strong backline defense; last season he missed just one game, he led the league in FG%, he ranked third in rebounding, and he placed second among centers in Defensive Real Plus-Minus behind Rudy Gobert.

Any hopes that Jordan, 29, might expand his one-on-one arsenal or extend his scoring range outside the immediate basket area have subsided. And, with lob partner Chris Paul gone to Houston, it’s reasonable to expect Jordan’s scoring volume and efficiency to slip somewhat next season. While he led the league with a whopping 253 dunks in 2016-17, he couldn’t step up to provide enough scoring help for Paul when Blake Griffin was lost to injury during the playoffs. With a deeper offensive toolbox, Jordan would have a strong case as the league’s best all-around center. As is, he’s a perennial All-Star candidate who will be central to L.A.’s post-Paul plans. Jordan is tracking towards another massive payday next summer, and hopefully his free-agency experience won’t require any hostage-taking this time around.

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Jordan 30th on ESPN's Top 100 

Post#30 » by Ranma » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:48 pm

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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#31 » by esqtvd » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:01 am

thanumba2clippersfan wrote:I'm ok to keep DJ if he wants to remain a Clipper and take less than the max. If he's looking to be a max player I think we should look to trade him. We need to remain flexible, no sense in giving him too much money.


What's a center worth in the 21st century, especially one who can't shoot a g*****mn lick?

The CP3-era Clippers were such a weird Frankenstein. BG and JJ don't D, so we needed DJ and Luc, who can't O. Of course BG still don't D and neither does Gallo, so we're still back where we started. Can this team play without DJ?


I haven't wanted to spend max money on a center here in the 21st century, when centers are so out of fashion. I was SO ready to let DJ go last summer, and I think so was Doc, who made little attempt to keep him until DJ's mother and and brother called up Doc's family, then DJ called Blake, then JJ jumped in, and all of a sudden Doc and CP and Pierce are on Ballmer's jet to DJ's mother's house.


OK, OK, but...


With this new bunch of talented but often-injured bodies, can the Clippers really afford to let their iron man ever leave?
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#32 » by Clemenza » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:43 pm

I'm thinking Cleveland might offer up that Brooklyn first sometime before the deadline
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#33 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:56 pm

Clemenza wrote:I'm thinking Cleveland might offer up that Brooklyn first sometime before the deadline

I don't think Cleveland will trade that pick for anything short of a proven superstar, and only if LeBron commits to staying first. I think it's more likely that the Celtics, a team that is desperate for any big man that can rebound and defend, offer the Lakers pick for him. Even that probably won't happen, but it's more likely than the Cavs offering the Brooklyn pick, IMO.

If either trade did happen, my dream scenario would be to use the lottery pick to draft Doncic, then use our pick to draft Isaac Bonga (a tall, versatile wing who's been compared to Giannis).
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Re: What to do with DeAndre 

Post#34 » by esqtvd » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:08 pm

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Clemenza wrote:I'm thinking Cleveland might offer up that Brooklyn first sometime before the deadline

I don't think Cleveland will trade that pick for anything short of a proven superstar, and only if LeBron commits to staying first.


Yah, lame duck championship. Bizarre. Winning or losing will have zero effect on the franchise going forward.

Frankly, I feel that way about bringing LeBron to the Clips. A lame duck the day he gets here, turns 34 in December 2018. I think it makes plenty of sense for a Laker team with a lot of early-20s kids to carry on after he's gone, but not us.
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