Shams: Cleveland and Boston have agreement on deal to send Kyrie Irving to the Celtics for Isaiah Thomas package to Cavs

Dalek · Post #101 » by **Dalek** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:51 pm

I think it is easy to slam Boston because they lack experience and grit in losing Crowder and Bradley, but if you look at this trade, it is a great move for the future.

They have three excellent players in Irving, Hayward and Horford that will keep them as divisional contenders

They have a bunch of young guys that are going to be great: Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown Jayson Tatum.

When Golden State and Cleveland are past their primes, Irving will be leading a very strong team that is ready to win in a couple years.

The only guy who loses is Al Horford, who probably sees this team moving in a different direction.

Curious to see how Brad Stevens manages the defense with all these young guys and Irving, who is soft on defense.

Post #102 » by **7 Footer** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:51 pm

Damn! what a crazy offseason, Raptors are like 4th or 5th in the East

RaptorsLife · Post #103 » by **RaptorsLife** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:52 pm

I can't wait for opening night

DreamTeam09 · Post #104 » by **DreamTeam09** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:53 pm

Cavs are madd deep,

IT / Rose
(Wade) / JR / Shumpert
LBJ / Korver
TT / Crowder
Love / Jeff Green

They don't have a backup 5 and have way too many wing players

MiltonBaller · Post #105 » by **MiltonBaller** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:53 pm

RaptorsFTL wrote:
EH15 wrote:Calling it now. Nets pick won't even be top 5 unless they got lucky through the lottery.

They likely have the worst record in the NBA so at worst it's the 4th pick in the draft.

Dude.... LeBron is leaving and its the Cavs.. they will WIN the lottery.. It's how the universe works.

Asif16 · Post #106 » by **Asif16** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:53 pm

Both teams get worse, fit wise imo.

IT has been battling hip injuries, 4 yrs older and Isnt as close to an offensive threat Irving is. When Irving is on, the man cant be stopped, doesnt miss a single shot and makes the craziest of plays. IT, on the other hand, can def be stopped.

Boston gets a lethal Offensive weapon, but lose a lot of depth in the process and will heavily lean on their young guys in Brown and Tatum, something that the raptors will be doing as well.

Not saying the Raps can beat the Celtics or Cavs, but I like our chances a bit more now compared to yesterday

Basketball_Jones · Post #107 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:54 pm

Celtics gave up a lot, but damn they are still a deep team. Kyrie/Hayward/Horford/Morris/Tatum/Brown/Smart

JN · Post #108 » by JN » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:54 pm

Ainge blew those assets that he accumulated.

Post #109 » by **The Duke** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:55 pm

What does nets pick + Crowder get u now

Yallbecrazy · Post #110 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:55 pm

This is an absolute steal for Cleveland, Ainge got super fleeced. Makes Cleveland even tougher to beat next year

rapstarter · Post #111 » by **rapstarter** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:55 pm

Jef wrote:Yeah I fear IT more than Kyrie in the clutch.
I marvel at Kyrie, but fear Isaiah.

You mean the Kyrie Irving who nearly averaged 30ppg in the last 2 Finals and made one of the most important shots in LeBron's career?

rarefind · Post #112 » by **rarefind** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:55 pm

EH15 wrote:Calling it now. Nets pick won't even be top 5 unless they got lucky through the lottery.

Even if D'Angelo Russell wins the MVP they'll still be the worst team in the league.

rarefind · Post #113 » by **rarefind** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 pm

The Duke wrote:What does nets pick + Crowder get u now

Or Nets pick + Love

EH15 · Post #114 » by **EH15** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 pm

RaptorsFTL wrote:
EH15 wrote:Calling it now. Nets pick won't even be top 5 unless they got lucky through the lottery.

They likely have the worst record in the NBA so at worst it's the 4th pick in the draft.

Zero chance if Lin and Russell are relatively healthy.

They were teetering on .500 when Lin was in the line up. They will be competitive enough to avoid being at the bottom. Atkinson is legit.

Lin
Russell
LeVert
RHJ
Crabbe

Really not bad considering how bare Billy King left the cupboards.

raptorstime · Post #115 » by **raptorstime** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 pm

lmfao

COY0607 · Post #116 » by **COY0607** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:57 pm

I think this is a win-win. Maybe the Cavs are the bigger winners (they are set for a follow up move for another start using the pick)
Celtics should've made a move at the trade deadline. Would've given up much less value then

The only loser here are the Raptors

___Rand___ · Post #117 » by **___Rand___** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:58 pm

MadDogSHWA wrote:
RaptorsLife wrote:These trash ass nba ref will make sure cavs and Celtics ECF happen

Would make for an interesting Conf Final

Yeah I didn't think of that. We're screwed this year. NBA wants that conf. final to happen for ratings. IT'S RIGGED I TELL YOU. RIGGED!!!

kj_ · Post #118 » by **kj_** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:58 pm

Jef wrote:LBJ def def def leaving now. This pretty much confirms it.

Maybe ... and the cavs have a top pick to accelerate a rebuild. Move Thompson and love for picks, tank and get their own high pick and the youth movement begins. OR he and IT may resign and they use that Nets pick to bring in another star.

This was a huge cavs win in my mind.

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rarefind · Post #119 » by **rarefind** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:59 pm

I just don't get how the Cavs actually won a trade while moving a guy who demanded a trade. BOS had all the leverage but you couldn't tell that by looking at the transaction. Moving the BKN pick is borderline moronic tbh.

Asif16 · Post #120 » by **Asif16** » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:59 pm

IT / Rose
Crowder / JR / Korver
LBJ / Korver / Shumpert
Love / Shumpert / Green
TT / Green

Cavs still team to beat