ATL - Kyrie Dealt to Boston for IT, Crowder, Nets pick, etc Pg 87

Buck Dweller · Post #1841 » by **Buck Dweller** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:36 am

H2tObes wrote:Yea, Kyrie/Hayward/Horford isnt exactly terrifying. I actually think they are a pretty poor fit together, atleast IT can actually pass the rock

just put giannis on hayward and it's clamps for them.

Plossum · Post #1842 » by **Plossum** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:37 am

While the Cavs did well out of this I think it's pretty good for Boston too.

They got the best player in the deal in Kyrie. Crowder is pretty redundant on the roster now with Hayward, Tatum and Brown competing for minutes at the same position. They lost the Brooklyn pick but still will likely have a high pick they got from the Fultz trade down. Trade makes sense for both teams on a lot of levels. It's a lot to pay but I still don't feel bad about it if I'm Boston.

LikeABosh · Post #1843 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:37 am

Wooderson wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Wooderson wrote:So Love has to be gone right? Or do they expect one of Love/Crowder/LeBron to chase around SGs (especially Klay).

What would be wrong with Crowder matching up with Klay?

You want Crowder covering Durant so LeBron can go back to guarding Draymond and play the free safety role. It's also not the best use of his talent to be running around screens on the perimeter.

That'll still work. Why would it have to be Love on Klay? Just put JR on him

buckboy · Post #1844 » by **buckboy** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:39 am

Wooderson wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Wooderson wrote:So Love has to be gone right? Or do they expect one of Love/Crowder/LeBron to chase around SGs (especially Klay).

What would be wrong with Crowder matching up with Klay?

You want Crowder covering Durant so LeBron can go back to guarding Draymond and play the free safety role. It's also not the best use of his talent to be running around screens on the perimeter.

So........get Beverly somehow and they're looking pretty good. Not sure if the Clippers would deal him.

Profound23 · Post #1845 » by **Profound23** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:41 am

jakecronus8 · Post #1846 » by **jakecronus8** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:42 am

Cleveland made a perfect trade. Got significantly better in the interim and that pick could very well be a better player than Kyrie down the line. Make one last run with Lebron and if you win it all, he maybe stays. Re-sign IT if he fits for likely less than Kyrie and have another premium asset to make a big move with if need be.

ETA: Don't know what Boston is doing. Argument could be made for IT over Kyrie especially when you consider contracts.

MoreTrife · Post #1847 » by **MoreTrife** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:45 am

BucksIn6ix wrote:
H2tObes wrote:Yea, Kyrie/Hayward/Horford isnt exactly terrifying. I actually think they are a pretty poor fit together, atleast IT can actually pass the rock

just put giannis on hayward and it's clamps for them.

Hate to say this but Hayward kinda killed giannis last year...

neiLz · Post #1848 » by **neiLz** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:46 am

IT BROOKLYN PICK FOR PORZINGIS?

Plossum · Post #1849 » by **Plossum** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:46 am

It'll be interesting to see how Boston tries to develop Tatum and Brown this year given their title aspirations.

Wooderson · Post #1850 » by **Wooderson** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:47 am

LikeABosh wrote:
Wooderson wrote:You want Crowder covering Durant so LeBron can go back to guarding Draymond and play the free safety role. It's also not the best use of his talent to be running around screens on the perimeter.

That'll still work. Why would it have to be Love on Klay? Just put JR on him

That works for the minutes they run without a C, but I don't know how long they can get away with that defensively. LeBron can't be the only rim protection, especially at 33.

sdn40 · Post #1851 » by **sdn40** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:49 am

It all hinges on whether Kyrie re-signs

Post #1852 » by **Prez** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:52 am

sdn40 wrote:It all hinges on whether Kyrie re-signs

Hinges on whether or not that pick turns into a superstar imo. Which it certainly could between Bagley, Ayton, Porter, Doncic.

skones · Post #1853 » by **skones** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:53 am

I think Ainge made mistakes by not pulling the trigger on guys who've already been moved, but I also think he saved face in a big way here. Re-upping Thomas for big money would have been a franchise crippler. Irving is far more age appropriate and elongates their window with Hayward and Stevens by a pretty substantial amount.

Given Thomas's lack of size and style of play, he's not going to be playing much longer at his current level.

wherearemypants · Post #1854 » by **wherearemypants** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:53 am

ArodpwnsFavre wrote:IT BROOKLYN PICK FOR PORZINGIS?

For some odd reason I see Thompson and the Brooklyn pick for Monroe, just so they have cash next offseason. I don't know why that popped in my head.

Post #1855 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:54 am

worthlessBucks wrote:Cleveland did quite well. Ainge has added his starpower this offseason and valued Brown/Tatum over the upcoming pick.

We couldn't top that deal.

Koby Altman >> Horst for the moment.

One dude has a big notch in his belt at the moment even if Dan Gilbert still owns said belt.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1856 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:58 am

wherearemypants wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:IT BROOKLYN PICK FOR PORZINGIS?

For some odd reason I see Thompson and the Brooklyn pick for Monroe, just so they have cash next offseason. I don't know why that popped in my head.

Probably because you're a hopefully delusional Bucks fan like us all.

jute2003 · Post #1857 » by **jute2003** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:04 am

Dang, that's a haul for Kyrie. Horfords not getting any younger. Celtics may take a step back this year unless they find some size. I think they lost their heart and toughness.

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MikeIsGood · Post #1858 » by **MikeIsGood** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:12 am

Cleveland made out like bandits. What a trade. Hilarious it was between the two top teams in the East, too - LeBron is gonna murder the Celtics.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1859 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:17 am

kyrie, Hayward, morris for IT, bradley, crowder, and their mega asset

they got worse imo. borderline dumb all in offseason.

good for Cleveland. LeBron stays now.

drone3 · Post #1860 » by **drone3** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:19 am

Cavs won this trade for sure, however there is a possibility that Stevens can teach Kyrie team ball and make him much better.