ATL - New Lottery Rules Move to Owner Vote - pg59

[ReasonablySober]

Okay!

[paulpressey25]

If you were given the choice today to trade the Bucks front office, coach and roster, picks for their Celtic counterparts do you do it?

I say where do I sign-up even though Giannis might likely be the best player on either team over a decade long window.

[midranger]

Crowder is a top 30 player, if you allow for 70 players to be in the top 30.

[Nowak008]

Crowder is a top 30 player, if you allow for 70 players to be in the top 30.

If Jae Crowder is your second best player, you are probably a lottery team.

[Prez]

If you were given the choice today to trade the Bucks front office, coach and roster, picks for their Celtic counterparts do you do it?

I say where do I sign-up even though Giannis might likely be the best player on either team over a decade long window.

Giannis single handedly makes this is a hell no. They don't have anything that even touches his upside.

[midranger]

Crowder is a top 30 player, if you allow for 70 players to be in the top 30.

If Jae Crowder is your second best player, you are probably a lottery team.

If he's your best player, you're not winning more than 20 games.

[ReasonablySober]

Crowder is a top 30 player, if you allow for 70 players to be in the top 30.

If Jae Crowder is your second best player, you are probably a lottery team.

Uh, you guys know the Celtics were a #1 seed last season, right?

[Prez]

Well when we do that draft the league game

is this happening? think we need a thread to get it set up

[ReasonablySober]

ESPN's RPM SFs

'15-16:
1 - LeBron James
2 - Kawhi Leonard
3 - Kevin Durant
4 - Paul George
5 - Jae Crowder

-16-17:
1 - Lebron
2 - Kawhi
3 - Durant
4 - Giannis
5 - Crowder

Only using that stat because it's quick and easy, but by any metric he's been a monster two-way for two-plus seasons.

[Chuck Diesel]

Yep. Jae Crowder is a very good two way player on one of the best contracts in the league. I don't get any disparagement.

[chonestown]

If Jake Rowder is your second blessed player you're team is in truffle because this is not the name of a player chase closed

[ReasonablySober]

If Jake Rowder is your second blessed player you're team is in truffle because this is not the name of a player chase closed

Dammit, Chones. Negative ten And-1s.

[chonestown]

If Jake Rowder is your second blessed player you're team is in truffle because this is not the name of a player chase closed

Dammit, Chones. Negative ten And-1s.

I standby my origami cinnamint

[paulpressey25]

Well when we do that draft the league game

is this happening? think we need a thread to get it set up

The Bucks board super draft is coming next Labor Day weekend. Stay tuned. I will have an introductory thread up this weekend.

[mattg]

Like I said before, Crowder is the next Demarre Carroll. When his effort level starts waning this year and he proves to be much slower laterally than he has been (it started last season for those paying attention) and unable to chase guys like Beal/Thompson around screens while he complains about not getting enough shots, watch out. Instead of mastermind Stevens putting everyone in the perfect position to succeed he's gonna have Lue unable to figure out his best lineups until elimination games in the playoffs. The Cavs also had a team wide problem of being lazy on defense last season, no one including Lebron was running hard to change ends getting back on defense. Everyone getting lazy after one or two rotations. **** like that doesn't fly under Brad Stevens and never has. Interesting to see how hard Cleveland coasts in the regular season.

[Nowak008]

Well when we do that draft the league game

is this happening? think we need a thread to get it set up

The Bucks board super draft is coming next Labor Day weekend. Stay tuned. I will have an introductory thread up this weekend.

9 or 10 rounds !

[Nowak008]

So how fast is Zizic going to be moved in a salary dump by the Cavs? Dumping Fry or Shump for nothing would save them aprox 100 billion dollars

[Profound23]

In the di#@ move of the year:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20421906/andrew-wiggins-minnesota-timberwolves-splits-bda-sports-putting-contract-extension-hold

Andrew Wiggins cuts ties with BDA after agent negotiates max deal

[skones]

ESPN's RPM SFs

'15-16:
1 - LeBron James
2 - Kawhi Leonard
3 - Kevin Durant
4 - Paul George
5 - Jae Crowder

-16-17:
1 - Lebron
2 - Kawhi
3 - Durant
4 - Giannis
5 - Crowder

Only using that stat because it's quick and easy, but by any metric he's been a monster two-way for two-plus seasons.

It's quick and easy because it serves your narrative. I've seen you flat out ignore it with regards to other guys. So the "not debatable" talk and your citation of RPM as evidence seems odd. (Snell)

Crowder is absolutely a solid player in this league, but if your return is paying IT a **** load of money or letting him walk (in which case you're left with Crowder and a pick) I can't say that you "won the deal."

[FlagsFlyForever]

In the di#@ move of the year:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20421906/andrew-wiggins-minnesota-timberwolves-splits-bda-sports-putting-contract-extension-hold

Andrew Wiggins cuts ties with BDA after agent negotiates max deal

Duffy is still going to get his cut.