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Post#21 » by Hype97 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:14 am

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Sources say the team has plans to add another assistant general manager to its brain trust.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20405545/la-clippers-hire-long-cleveland-cavaliers-executive-trent-redden-assistant-general-manager


This was the last sentence, and possibly the most interesting, from the Kevin Arnovitz article on ESPN about hiring Redden. I must second Ranma's previous sentiments and feel like we could still use another talent evaluator in the mix. I also agree that Ryan West would be an ideal fit. But, regardless what direction we take, it's nice to hear from a reputable source that we aren't complacent yet and continue to be aggressive despite what we have managed to pull off so far.


I've previously mentioned how Lucas Hann's apparent resentment of Justin Russo's credibility pushed him to be looked at as a credible source. As such, he's probably in more of a position to spread false info as an eager and willing mouthpiece for teams and agents, but in this instance, I think it's safe to say that the organization already has someone in mind and that negotiations are underway. See the linked screenshot below.

I'm curious who it is if that is indeed the case. The secrecy has members on the Clips Nation comments section speculating and hoping that it's Ryan West. Obviously, I feel the same in hoping that the sensitivity of the situation indicates that it's the highly regarded son of the Logo who is currently employed by our crosstown rival Lakers.

However, the Clippers have previously been linked to Mark Hughes and Shareef Abdur-Rahim per Los Angeles Times beat writer Broderick (Brad) Turner, but both were already publicly reported, so Hann would be making much ado about nothing if it were either one of them, which is not something I would put past him, by the way. Also, Turner previously quoted an anonymous executive saying that it was likely that Ryan would join his father Jerry West, but that was when Ballmer hired the elder West as consultant.

Hughes is currently with the Knicks but is also another Doc crony from their time together in Orlando. Abdur-Rahim, on the other hand, is a well thought of up-and-comer, but he also lacks experience and is not either the pure statistical guru or talent evaluator we could use.

At the same time, Hann responded to a comment that also specifically referenced Ryan West. Could Hann have reached out to Ryan's agent for that comment about "ongoing negotiations" with the Clippers? Man, I hope so.


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It looks like Hann is joking that he's the one being considered for the position and can't comment on the ongoing negotiations in that quote to me.
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Post#22 » by Ranma » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:36 am

Hype97 wrote:It looks like Hann is joking that he's the one being considered for the position and can't comment on the ongoing negotiations in that quote to me.


That's probably the case after re-reading it, especially since he didn't put quotation marks around his statement. Like I've said, he's not exactly an insider. In any case, here are other sources albeit older material to add fuel to the fire of wish fulfillment:

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Post#23 » by TucsonClip » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:50 pm

Ranma wrote:I've previously mentioned how Lucas Hann's apparent resentment of Justin Russo's credibility pushed him to be looked at as a credible source. As such, he's probably in more of a position to spread false info as an eager and willing mouthpiece for teams and agents, but in this instance, I think it's safe to say that the organization already has someone in mind and that negotiations are underway. See the linked screenshot below.

I'm curious who it is if that is indeed the case. The secrecy has members on the Clips Nation comments section speculating and hoping that it's Ryan West. Obviously, I feel the same in hoping that the sensitivity of the situation indicates that it's the highly regarded son of the Logo who is currently employed by our crosstown rival Lakers.

However, the Clippers have previously been linked to Mark Hughes and Shareef Abdur-Rahim per Los Angeles Times beat writer Broderick (Brad) Turner, but both were already publicly reported, so Hann would be making much ado about nothing if it were either one of them, which is not something I would put past him, by the way. Also, Turner previously quoted an anonymous executive saying that it was likely that Ryan would join his father Jerry West, but that was when Ballmer hired the elder West as consultant.

Hughes is currently with the Knicks but is also another Doc crony from their time together in Orlando. Abdur-Rahim, on the other hand, is a well thought of up-and-comer, but he also lacks experience and is not either the pure statistical guru or talent evaluator we could use.

At the same time, Hann responded to a comment that also specifically referenced Ryan West. Could Hann have reached out to Ryan's agent for that comment about "ongoing negotiations" with the Clippers? Man, I hope so.

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I could be wrong, but I thought he was referring to "my representation" as a bad joke (which has now been the norm for him), as in he is being considered. Which is obviously a joke.
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Post#24 » by Ranma » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:58 pm

TucsonClip wrote:I could be wrong, but I thought he was referring to "my representation" as a bad joke (which has now been the norm for him), as in he is being considered. Which is obviously a joke.


Yeah, I misread it initially thinking that it was a quote from a contact, then thinking the joke was about him representing someone being considered before realizing that it was a joke about him having an agent negotiating on his behalf of his candidacy.

Admittedly, it was a case of me seeing what I wanted to see, but I didn't find this joke to be particularly funny.
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Re: From ClipsNation.com Comments Section 

Post#25 » by esqtvd » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Hype97 wrote:
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20405545/la-clippers-hire-long-cleveland-cavaliers-executive-trent-redden-assistant-general-manager


This was the last sentence, and possibly the most interesting, from the Kevin Arnovitz article on ESPN about hiring Redden. I must second Ranma's previous sentiments and feel like we could still use another talent evaluator in the mix. I also agree that Ryan West would be an ideal fit. But, regardless what direction we take, it's nice to hear from a reputable source that we aren't complacent yet and continue to be aggressive despite what we have managed to pull off so far.


I've previously mentioned how Lucas Hann's apparent resentment of Justin Russo's credibility pushed him to be looked at as a credible source. As such, he's probably in more of a position to spread false info as an eager and willing mouthpiece for teams and agents, but in this instance, I think it's safe to say that the organization already has someone in mind and that negotiations are underway. See the linked screenshot below.

I'm curious who it is if that is indeed the case. The secrecy has members on the Clips Nation comments section speculating and hoping that it's Ryan West. Obviously, I feel the same in hoping that the sensitivity of the situation indicates that it's the highly regarded son of the Logo who is currently employed by our crosstown rival Lakers.

However, the Clippers have previously been linked to Mark Hughes and Shareef Abdur-Rahim per Los Angeles Times beat writer Broderick (Brad) Turner, but both were already publicly reported, so Hann would be making much ado about nothing if it were either one of them, which is not something I would put past him, by the way. Also, Turner previously quoted an anonymous executive saying that it was likely that Ryan would join his father Jerry West, but that was when Ballmer hired the elder West as consultant.

Hughes is currently with the Knicks but is also another Doc crony from their time together in Orlando. Abdur-Rahim, on the other hand, is a well thought of up-and-comer, but he also lacks experience and is not either the pure statistical guru or talent evaluator we could use.

At the same time, Hann responded to a comment that also specifically referenced Ryan West. Could Hann have reached out to Ryan's agent for that comment about "ongoing negotiations" with the Clippers? Man, I hope so.


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It looks like Hann is joking that he's the one being considered for the position and can't comment on the ongoing negotiations in that quote to me.



That's stuff's a running joke if you follow him. Lucas does great work, and unlike us actually gets paid to be a bloviating a***ole. He's usually spot-on with our sal cap sitch, and from what I've seen, doesn't purport to be any sort of "insider." He is, however, usually one of the first on Twitter to grab what's coming in over the wires, and is well worth a follow @LucasJHann.
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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#26 » by TucsonClip » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:10 pm

Does he get paid? Could be wrong, but didnt think he did. I was actually quite surprised at the amount of paid gigs they offered us at B/R and other sites. I say that because there were about 40 of us who werent under contract and were basically independent contractors. The people who were under contract (typically were also editors) made a pretty nice salary.

I think Hann has a patreon account, which he is definitely worth a donation to.
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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#27 » by nickhx2 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:14 pm

i don't believe anyone gets paid there but you would know more than me. i would occasionally read about how they were looking for new writers to write for free.
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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#28 » by esqtvd » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:05 pm

https://www.sbnation.com/pages/openings


Are these positions paid?

Yes. Neither are full time, but both site manager and contributor positions are paid a monthly stipend.

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I've seen @LucasJHann mention being paid in his tweets, although it's not a lot. As Ed-in-Chief it appears Lucas gets at least $400 a month.


Not that this is all without controversy, mind you...

http://awfulannouncing.com/online-outlets/sb-nation-contracts-managers-go-against-execs-assertion-all-contributors-are-paid.html
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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#29 » by TucsonClip » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:04 am

Nice, good for them. These guys put in a lot of time writing and editing.
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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#30 » by nickhx2 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:37 am

they used to be a lot better about content. they'll add something new once every couple weeks maybe that i want to read whereas before it used to be a lot more often.

still, content frequency doesn't always mean everything. i read milehighreport (denver broncos blog on sbnation) and they are ***************** atrocious. there's maybe 3 writers who are decent and the rest are horrible with agendas and vendettas. if a few of the posters in the comment sections weren't as knowledgable as they were i wouldn't even bother.
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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#31 » by esqtvd » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:12 am

nickhx2 wrote:they used to be a lot better about content. they'll add something new once every couple weeks maybe that i want to read whereas before it used to be a lot more often.

still, content frequency doesn't always mean everything. i read milehighreport (denver broncos blog on sbnation) and they are ***************** atrocious. there's maybe 3 writers who are decent and the rest are horrible with agendas and vendettas. if a few of the posters in the comment sections weren't as knowledgable as they were i wouldn't even bother.



Lucas Hann also does a regular podcast, Locked on Clippers. Well worth any true Clips fan's time. Very thorough.

https://audioboom.com/channel/locked-on-clippers

Hann prob gets paid for that, too. Hope so. I know Keith Pompey of Philadelphia's leading paper, the Inquirer, does a "Locked On" poscast too, and it's desultory. If he weren't be thrown some bucks, I don't understand why he'd embarrass himself like he does.


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Post#32 » by Ranma » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:18 pm

As I said before, the Clippers are well positioned to be a free-agent destination while also allowing for flexibility to accommodate such signings. With the reported discord between Doc and CP3, I'd have to think the Point God wields more influence with other players and has better reads on the pulse of respective situations in free agency. Doc's influence as a pitchman has certainly waned over the years. I'm certain Paul has relayed Doc's shortcomings to his fellow star players.

I also mentioned before how re-signing Blake Griffin allows for using his contract as a trade asset to work sign-and-trade deals. Griffin is neither a real draw for star free agents or inclined to do meaningful recruiting on the Clippers' behalf.

I actually see Doc and Griffin's days with the Clippers as being numbered. Remember, Doc was the one who pitched him about re-signing with the team using the theme of legacy and going as far as to include Blake in that absurd T-shirt graphic. Stephen A. Smith (I know) reported that Chris Paul was the organization's first choice and only went to BG after CP3 departed for Houston. Yeah, I know about the source, but it's in line with other things we've been hearing and, frankly, been anticipating.


Ranma wrote:Our new front office seems well poised for free agency, but I still have concerns about the draft and player development. We're obviously better off than we have been under Doc's watch, but I think we still have some holes to fill in the organizational infrastructure.

I'm also glad that Doc is on the hot seat needing to prove himself as coach, but we still need to strip away his cronies who populate the team staff.


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Re: Clippers Hire Trent Redden as Assistant GM 

Post#33 » by JGOJustin » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:25 am

+1 on Lucas. That's my guy. Chopped it up with him a few times at STAPLES last season. Knows his stuff for sure.
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