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Oof, I remember that fight with Hatton and Malignaggi. Malignaggi brought nothing but pillow fists and threw a huge fit when his corner threw in the towel. He did absolutely nothing, but block huge punches with his face.
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CjayC wrote:If if if.
FACTS he was gassed as hell, eating punches, and not throwing anything back. If he wanted the ref to not take it into his hands to protect the fighter he should have gave a better account of himself rather than gassing and not throwing punches for a minute.
His corner told him to specifically go out there and rest that round. He should have clinched it up and just hugged him for 3 minutes I guess? The sweet science!

He was tired, his wits were about him and he hadnt given up. It was a sh*t stoppage in a close fight.
Mayweather went the first 1:20 without throwing a punch, guess they shoulda stopped it!

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cowboyronnie wrote:It took me 60 seconds to come up with 3 examples, scaling 50 years. Another 60 seconds? Canelo vs Angulo, Chavez vs Taylor, Malignaggi vs Khan...
You don't know ****.
I don't know what all that nonsense that fills the final section of your post has to do with your claim that this stoppage was "rigged".
Because boxing homers stick out like sore thumbs and have no grasp of reality of objectivity.
From the get go, even the refs pre fight instructions, it was obviously us vs them.
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Rich Rane wrote:Oof, I remember that fight with Hatton and Malignaggi. Malignaggi brought nothing but pillow fists and threw a huge fit when his corner threw in the towel. He did absolutely nothing, but block huge punches with his face.
I meant Paulie vs Khan, actually.
Paulie has the heart of a lion, there is no shame in wanting to continue. That Hatton fight was the end of him and McGirt, I believe, Paulie did not want a corner that would pull him out of a fight.
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Rich Rane wrote:Oof, I remember that fight with Hatton and Malignaggi. Malignaggi brought nothing but pillow fists and threw a huge fit when his corner threw in the towel. He did absolutely nothing, but block huge punches with his face.
I must have missed where Mcgregors corner threw in the towel.
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Rashoismydad wrote:Rich Rane wrote:Oof, I remember that fight with Hatton and Malignaggi. Malignaggi brought nothing but pillow fists and threw a huge fit when his corner threw in the towel. He did absolutely nothing, but block huge punches with his face.
I must have missed where Mcgregors corner threw in the towel.
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McGregor was going down real soon either by KO or more probably a worse TKO. He should thank whatever deity he might believe in that it was stopped when it was. He looked better by it than he would have otherwise.
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cowboyronnie wrote:Rich Rane wrote:Oof, I remember that fight with Hatton and Malignaggi. Malignaggi brought nothing but pillow fists and threw a huge fit when his corner threw in the towel. He did absolutely nothing, but block huge punches with his face.
I meant Paulie vs Khan, actually.
I remember that one too. Malignaggi again brought nothing, but his pillow fists to that fight. Khan didn't even land anything huge to end that fight if I remember correctly. It was just a prolonged beating.
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I was definitely wrong about how I saw this fight. I thought Floyd would put on an exhibition of for 3-5 rounds and then finish the job in rounds 4-6. But all the credit in the world to Conor because his boxing skills were far, far more advanced than I thought they'd be. And he did a great job of using the physical advantages that he has to do a lot better for a lot longer than certainly I, and even people who were more optimistic about his chances, thought he would do.
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cowboyronnie wrote:Rashoismydad wrote:Rich Rane wrote:Oof, I remember that fight with Hatton and Malignaggi. Malignaggi brought nothing but pillow fists and threw a huge fit when his corner threw in the towel. He did absolutely nothing, but block huge punches with his face.
I must have missed where Mcgregors corner threw in the towel.
Malignaggi was braindead and still throwing punches on reaction when the guy was 15 feet away and he was wrapped up by the ref lol.
Mcgregor was tired, not cloudy.
It was a trash stoppage by a ref who was treating mcgregor like some bum off the street who he didnt want the "champ" to hurt, what a joke.
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Bulltalk wrote:Didn't the fight kind of, sort go like most thought it would?
Yes, which is why Conor is getting way too much credit right now. He got knocked out by a 40-year-old who hasn't fought in 2 years and hasn't knocked someone out in 6 years.
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Bulltalk wrote:Didn't the fight kind of, sort go like most thought it would? Mayweather starting slow, making sure he doesn't get caught early, feeling him out, gassing him out, slowly taking it over...the only question being whether he was going to play it safe for the decision, or try to take him out, and McGregor kind of made that decision for him.
I was thinking about Mayweather as a fighter today. I thought to myself that I couldn't think of a great fighter who was more terrified of losing than him. I don't mean that as a knock on him. He really trains for all his fights. Takes his opponents seriously. Made himself into one of the great defensive fighters of all time. Carefully picks his opponents, and when it might be most advantageous to fight them. Doesn't take many chances in the ring that he doesn't have to.
I don't know. He deserves his due. Certainly made more money than anyone else.
He's a defensive boxer even before entering the ring. I appreciate this willingness to box a boring fight instead of wowing the fans...cause he knows fans have very short memory....does the guy have a belt and is he undefeated?
I hated this fight when it was made because it might expose causal fans to a defensive style of boxing they might not expect. If Conor didn't gas out, I think it would have gone the distance. The scorecard from the judge was very lopsided (87-83 89-82 and 89-81) ...which might anger casual even more if it went to scorecard. I think this was still a bad eye for boxing
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Mags FTW wrote:Bulltalk wrote:Didn't the fight kind of, sort go like most thought it would?
Yes, which is why Conor is getting way too much credit right now. He got knocked out by a 40-year-old who hasn't fought in 2 years and hasn't knocked someone out in 6 years.
I disagree. Conor won, in the eyes of most, at least 3 rounds. And for a guy that has never fought a professional boxing match in his career to do that against a guy with the pedigree, even a 40 with a 2 year layoff, is among the most impressive things I've seen in sports.
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safi wrote:Mags FTW wrote:Bulltalk wrote:Didn't the fight kind of, sort go like most thought it would?
Yes, which is why Conor is getting way too much credit right now. He got knocked out by a 40-year-old who hasn't fought in 2 years and hasn't knocked someone out in 6 years.
I disagree. Conor won, in the eyes of most, at least 3 rounds.
It's easy to win rounds when the other guy doesn't throw punches.
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I'm glad it never came down to that clown ref having to do something shady for Floyd, because it was clear as day he would have, with no shame, if he had to.
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Mags FTW wrote:safi wrote:Mags FTW wrote:Yes, which is why Conor is getting way too much credit right now. He got knocked out by a 40-year-old who hasn't fought in 2 years and hasn't knocked someone out in 6 years.
I disagree. Conor won, in the eyes of most, at least 3 rounds.
It's easy to win rounds win the other guy doesn't throw punches.
But he was landing quality shots flush and doing so with relative consistency and speaking for myself I can certainly say that I didn't see that coming.
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Rashoismydad wrote:CjayC wrote:If if if.
FACTS he was gassed as hell, eating punches, and not throwing anything back. If he wanted the ref to not take it into his hands to protect the fighter he should have gave a better account of himself rather than gassing and not throwing punches for a minute.
His corner told him to specifically go out there and rest that round. He should have clinched it up and just hugged him for 3 minutes I guess? The sweet science!![]()
He was tired, his wits were about him and he hadnt given up. It was a sh*t stoppage in a close fight.
Mayweather went the first 1:20 without throwing a punch, guess they shoulda stopped it!
Was he ever hurt, wobbling around the ring, and hugging for dear life in the first 3 rounds?
Yeah they totes should have kept this going

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Does anybody here think the ref would have stopped that if Floyd were in the exact position Conor was?
I don't think it was a BAD stoppage per say, but given the magnitude of it, he could have let him go down and see if he makes his 10 count. He was basically done, but lets just find out the hard way.
I don't think it was a BAD stoppage per say, but given the magnitude of it, he could have let him go down and see if he makes his 10 count. He was basically done, but lets just find out the hard way.
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Mags FTW wrote:safi wrote:Mags FTW wrote:Yes, which is why Conor is getting way too much credit right now. He got knocked out by a 40-year-old who hasn't fought in 2 years and hasn't knocked someone out in 6 years.
I disagree. Conor won, in the eyes of most, at least 3 rounds.
It's easy to win rounds when the other guy doesn't throw punches.
That was partially to Conor's credit for using his distance and befuddling him. He was doing pretty high level stuff that Floyd probably didn't expect from him, i.e.; the switch stance to straight to the body and the counter uppercut. Also, the jabs were technically impressive the way he was snapping them out there w/ accuracy. That's what was keeping distance best. Floyd had to figure ways around those problems to get off. Then when he made the adjustment of tying up and being more aggressive, coming in with his head down throwing hooks, after it surprised Conor, he came back and had his moments, arguably winning 1 or 2 more rounds before gassing.
You're making an issue of Conor getting ko'ed by "40 yr old Floyd". But I could come back and say it's pretty easy to get a ko against an opponent who is totally spent. Pretty much anybody could do that. The issue was gassing that hard. But that has eff all to do with boxing skill/ability. He proved he had plenty of that in this fight and Floyd acknowledged it. Without the gassing factor, this probably ends in a controversial decision in one's favor or the other.
No, it wasn't what most in the mainstream and boxing circles expected, gassing or no gassing. Conor wasn't out of his depth in there. He was competitive. He deserved to be a good-sized dog, but had a realistic chance to win still. Biggest changes he'd need to make if they hypothetically fought again were coming in lighter and training harder for longer to get his fitness up.
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Does anybody here think the ref would have stopped that if Floyd were in the exact position Conor was?
I don't think it was a BAD stoppage per say, but given the magnitude of it, he could have let him go down and see if he makes his 10 count. He was basically done, but lets just find out the hard way.
LOL NO CHANCE!
He would have let Floyd fall, walked over to Conor and spent 5 seconds backing him up before going over and starting a count which would look something like:
1!
2!
Z!
=)!
3!
---pause to go over to Conor and back him up 1 inch and lecture him like a child---
2!
3!
---checks out ring girls ass and gets distracted for a moment---
4!
5!
6!
Macaroni
7!
8!
---pauses to look at his boss---
9!
---grabs Mayweather and lifts him up---
10
Deducts a point from Mcgregor.
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