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[trwi7]

This is craziness! I hope IT is eventually ok, but I also hope the Cavs back out and we can get Kyrie. If we get Kyrie and win around 50 games this upcoming season and the AD Cousins duo doesn't work out, I think we have a really good chance of landing AD also. Call me crazy but talent attracts talent. Imagine the lineup of Giannis, Kyrie, AD, and a healthy Parker! I don't think the Warriors would even have a chance against us.
pg. Kyrie
sg. Snell
sf. Parker
pf. Giannis
c. AD
bench-It doesn't really matter

Really hoping this post came on the heels of a high on an acid trip.

[GoBrewersGo]

If the Cavs accept the Celtics trade, then they may as well trade LeBron and completely build for the future, because they're not winning a title with an injured Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder as their next best players. The Celtics would have to throw in Jaylen Brown or Tatum for me to accept.

If I'm the Cavs, I'm more worried about winning a championship now while I still have LeBron, than I am about acquiring future draft picks, though the picks will probably turn out to be great. It's the same reason why I wouldn't trade for an injured Jabari, unless the Bucks included Middleton. If I'm the Cavs, I'd try to acquire the best players possible for this year, while I still have LeBron.

[trwi7]

The Cavs probably should trade LeBron but honestly, how do you do that? You're probably not going to win but at least you have a shot and you can always rebuild next year. It's pretty much impossible to sell to the fan base a trade of LeBron in his prime after he came back to Cleveland and while every team would obviously love to have him, only a few teams are going to be knocking down the door because other teams don't want to mortgage their futures for possibly one year of LeBron, as amazing as that year might be.

[BucksFanSD]

LeBron has a no trade clause. I don't see him leaving until next year.

[GoBrewersGo]

Both good points about trading Lebron. After thinking about it more, that would be a tough sell to fans. Plus, LeBrn would try to power his way to the destination of his choice and try to have that team give up as little as possible. I'd still be more inclined if I'm Cavs to try and trade Kyrie for win now players over Nets pick, but yeah that pick is very appealing.

[FlagsFlyForever]

A legitimate championship contender trading its best player so they can rebuild is crazy talk.

[Pachinko_]

A legitimate championship contender trading its best player so they can rebuild is crazy talk.

It's just a forum disease
According to realgm everybody should tank except for the warriors, and even they should start thinking about it soon-ish.

#1 picks will multiply and 29 teams will get one each.
Draft busts will disappear and everyone will get a superstar.
And then everybody will tank again

[Prince12]

A legitimate championship contender trading its best player so they can rebuild is crazy talk.

It's just a forum disease
According to realgm everybody should tank except for the warriors, and even they should start thinking about it soon-ish.

#1 picks will multiply and 29 teams will get one each.
Draft busts will disappear and everyone will get a superstar.
And then everybody will tank again

It is crazy because he's one of the absolute greats but it makes a lot of sense if you acknowledge they aren't beating GS anyway this year. Trade Lebron for a monster deal, keep the Brooklyn pick and they are back in the mix in a couple years if all goes well.

Obviously it's never going to happen but I can see why it could make a lot of sense. Of course if the warriors get some injuries then Cleveland could win it all with Lebron.

[coolhandluke121]

I wonder if the Bucks could facilitate a solution. Boston lost Amir and Olynyk so maybe they'd have some interest in Monroe. Then send Khris to the Cavs for the pick. More salaries would have to be included as well, but the basic premise might have merit.

[Prince12]

I wonder if the Bucks could facilitate a solution. Boston lost Amir and Olynyk so maybe they'd have some interest in Monroe. Then send Khris to the Cavs for the pick. More salaries would have to be included as well, but the basic premise might have merit.

Can we make that Henson..

[MikeIsGood]

We are - at worst - one year past the point of trading legit assets for picks making sense. Giannis has 4 years. It's time to **** or get off the pot.

[coolhandluke121]

I wonder if the Bucks could facilitate a solution. Boston lost Amir and Olynyk so maybe they'd have some interest in Monroe. Then send Khris to the Cavs for the pick. More salaries would have to be included as well, but the basic premise might have merit.

Can we make that Henson..

Maybe, but then we have to add more for the Cavs because they're the ones that need frosting on the deal. You'll notice I didn't even include what Boston adds to the deal in that regard so yeah, there might be options. It's only a rough outline of a possible deal.

[Presence]

I wonder if the Bucks could facilitate a solution. Boston lost Amir and Olynyk so maybe they'd have some interest in Monroe. Then send Khris to the Cavs for the pick. More salaries would have to be included as well, but the basic premise might have merit.

Can we make that Henson..

Maybe, but then we have to add more for the Cavs because they're the ones that need frosting on the deal. You'll notice I didn't even include what Boston adds to the deal in that regard so yeah, there might be options. It's only a rough outline of a possible deal.

Let me get this straight; you're proposing the Bucks get involved by trading Monroe's expiring and Middleton for the BKN pick?

[Douggystyle29]

This is craziness! I hope IT is eventually ok, but I also hope the Cavs back out and we can get Kyrie. If we get Kyrie and win around 50 games this upcoming season and the AD Cousins duo doesn't work out, I think we have a really good chance of landing AD also. Call me crazy but talent attracts talent. Imagine the lineup of Giannis, Kyrie, AD, and a healthy Parker! I don't think the Warriors would even have a chance against us.
pg. Kyrie
sg. Snell
sf. Parker
pf. Giannis
c. AD
bench-It doesn't really matter

Really hoping this post came on the heels of a high on an acid trip.

Lol! Sorry I was a little excited last night cuz it was my last night of my old job.

[Pachinko_]

A legitimate championship contender trading its best player so they can rebuild is crazy talk.

It's just a forum disease
According to realgm everybody should tank except for the warriors, and even they should start thinking about it soon-ish.

#1 picks will multiply and 29 teams will get one each.
Draft busts will disappear and everyone will get a superstar.
And then everybody will tank again

It is crazy because he's one of the absolute greats but it makes a lot of sense if you acknowledge they aren't beating GS anyway this year. Trade Lebron for a monster deal, keep the Brooklyn pick and they are back in the mix in a couple years if all goes well.

Obviously it's never going to happen but I can see why it could make a lot of sense. Of course if the warriors get some injuries then Cleveland could win it all with Lebron.

The fallacy is that we are recommending the same thing to everybody who is not beating GS this year, which is everybody, which is impossible to happen.

Meanwhile in the real world, teams who are not beating GS this year are making a tonne of money by playing their best players and making an effort to be the best they can. And GMs generally like their jobs and dont want to go talk to owners about tanking experiments.

[thomchatt3rton]

Putting aside the possible void of the trade for a second and just looking at it in general:

I've always wondered how much Stevens was involved in obtaining Kyrie. Was he in any way a driving force in this? Like I wonder if he ever specifically wanted Kyrie?

Or is this mainly Ainges deal and Stevens was merely "just OK" with it?

It'd be interesting to know, because if Stevens was really behind it (and had specific plans for Kyrie etc), then BOS fans ought to feel a lot more confident about this whole thing (and a lot better about the price they paid). I would.

But if Stevens was just "OK" with the deal, then who the hell knows how Kyrie will work out for them.

[stillgotgame]

I hope this blows up. I think Kyrie and Giannis would make a great pairing.

[BucksFanSD]

I hope this blows up. I think Kyrie and Giannis would make a great pairing.

I think I they would too.

I believe the Bucks think they can have Snell take Middleton's spot at the 2 and Jabari will come back healthy.

The only question I have is can we have average defense with a Kyrie, Snell, Parker, Giannis, Thon line up. Offense won't be a problem. I think we could be avg on defense.

[LikeABosh]

If the Cavs accept the Celtics trade, then they may as well trade LeBron and completely build for the future, because they're not winning a title with an injured Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder as their next best players. The Celtics would have to throw in Jaylen Brown or Tatum for me to accept.

If I'm the Cavs, I'm more worried about winning a championship now while I still have LeBron, than I am about acquiring future draft picks, though the picks will probably turn out to be great. It's the same reason why I wouldn't trade for an injured Jabari, unless the Bucks included Middleton. If I'm the Cavs, I'd try to acquire the best players possible for this year, while I still have LeBron.

Cavs should still accept the trade and if they want to compete this year they can trade the Nets pick for another ball handler. Adding something like Middleton, Rose, Crowder, and Zizic makes them better than last year imo

Take it a step further and try to trade Love too since he's not a great fit vs GS

[RRyder823]

People really think the Cavs should still accept the trade if it's effectively just Crowder and the Nets pick? Yeah let's just throw in the towel on a legitimate title contender and carve it in stone that Lebron leaves.

Sorry. Forgot where I was. Every team but GS should just tank apparently.

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