Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[HOF19]

Newest new referencing the Knicks.......Bucks owner’s daughter wants to buy Knicks.

[3toheadmelo]

Sorry to burst your bubble but all those players you named passes. With his ability only 4 assist one time and that was the dad Melo we loved. AI averaged 33 and still managed 7.4 assist. We all know TMac was pretty much a point guard at times. Westbrook passes, IT passes, and Kobe average 5 plus assist 8 times and over 6 twice with a bunch of times close to 5. So much for a chuck. Probably because of the triangle.

However to your sarcastic point, dominant scorers hurt their team if it is inefficient and get their team out of a groove. Which at times dominant scorers do. If you are a Durant who is just ridiculous, he can never hurt his team with those percentages.

My man you just playing the stat game at this point.
If you actually watched the games you would know he passes the ball.
He was actually the best passer on the team this past season believe it or not. You know how much times over the years he would pass the hell out of the ball and still end up with 2-3 assists? That's how schit his team mates were.

Rose averaged more assists than him. Does that make him a good passer?
I'm just going to leave this as that. No one saying Melo is steve nash or lebron. But to say he never passes is ridiculous.

If I actually watched the games lol. This guy. I watch every single knick game. Saying he never passes is ridiculous lol. I never said Melo was a bad passer. You watch knick games, you should be able to see the difference between last year and the year before. His mindset. Tell me what you saw two years ago and compare it to last year. Night and day. I would be labeled a hater though. If you watch games you see the difference on how the different ways Melo play impacts the team. I'm just waiting for one of you to prove me wrong. The best argument you can come up with is he's not Lebron. No one is Lebron.

Listen, I know where you stand on this and you know where I stand on this. No point continuing this debate

[F N 11]

Newest new referencing the Knicks.......Bucks owner’s daughter wants to buy Knicks.

Her daddy is only part owner of the bucks. I mean she has big dreams though.

[Capn'O]

it was funny at first that the melo trade threads were continuing long after there wasn't any trade news. now.....not so much.

How would 3-4 threads about him on the first page suit you?

[battabing10]

again Kobe played hard D on good teams

but he also played zero D on the bad ones


Im not saying they were the same
Kobe has a BBIQ unlike many but he also is a ball hog, chucker, terrible teammate, coach killer, etc

yes bryant had an outsize ego, and melo does too. it's inexcusable both in a team game and as an employee to do what they did. bryant did it most clearly with the smush parker and kwame brown teams. divisive behavior, some decrying his open contempt and sulking and others finding reasons to justify that ugliness. i guess five titles allows people to gloss, forgive and forget.

but melo's been pretty much the same in new york. even with dolan's bungling and meddling in making a rash decision over walsh's hesitance, melo could have been dad melo *irregardless* of his lineups-- but his ego would not allow him to. the results speak for themselves.

I probably didn't make my point very clearly

On bad team scorers stand out as selfish
On good teams they are superstars

Every slight against melo has been against Kobe too. Including that he can't win on his own.

But Kobe gets a pass, despite in actuality being a much less likable person and probably a rapist, because of the rings.

If melo led us to a title one season and missed the playoffs every other year while ball hogging I bet we would have a statue to him

But melo has many flaws and I'd love to move on and allow him a chance at winning elsewhere.

Sadly the ntc kills us. And it's self inflicted.

here is a side by side comparison of bryant to melo:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Kobe+Bryant&player_id1_select=Kobe+Bryant&player_id1=bryanko01&player_id2_hint=Carmelo+Anthony&player_id2_select=Carmelo+Anthony&player_id2=anthoca01&idx=players

it's fascinating and revealing. the most salient difference is the ball sharing that bryant does, which mitigates a little bit his chucker/questionable shot selection flaw. bryant was a better ball sharer than his deriders want to remember, and he was a far far better ball sharer than melo has ever been save the first half of the fisher-coached season when he was dad melo.

but if you saw 25-30 games of dad melo then what's the excuse for the rest of his career, especially as a knick?? that's what has to stick in the collective craw of knick fans. he's like that singing frog in the warner brothers cartoon-- when he's singing it's dad melo, regular melo it's the croaking frog:

Watch on YouTube

i suppose with the really awful teams bryant had his ball sharing went down and his shot attempts went up. the fact remains, though: regardless of who your playing with you have to be a team player.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

[Greenie]

Westbrook passes?
Assists are such a crooked stat. Westbrook is the PG. KD left because Westbrook is a horrible PG.

[god shammgod]

it was funny at first that the melo trade threads were continuing long after there wasn't any trade news. now.....not so much.

How would 3-4 threads about him on the first page suit you?

you make an excellent point. and also....i hate you all.

[blueNorange]

Westbrook passes?
Assists are such a crooked stat. Westbrook is the PG. KD left because Westbrook is a horrible PG.

so i guess wesbtrook pulled those tripe doubles out of his arse then huh.

[blueNorange]

a man averaged a triple double for a season average, and someone had the nerve to say "westbrook passes? stats are such a crooked stat"

but then again in this very thread someone is comparing melo to kobe, so this is hell.

[battabing10]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

it's not a good situation for him. the knicks have zero interest in doing a deal that does not favor them. houston doesn't have enough and thinking that the knicks will acquiesce in time is foolishness. it just isn't going to happen, and neither is a buyout.

so if i am melo, i do the only thing i can do, which also happens to be the right thing: i sack up, help the team that is currently paying me, and do what is asked of me-- be a professional and do my job. you create enormous good will, preserve your body and your brand, and keep alive the hope that a good trade becomes available later. hopefully his agent says the same thing.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

Aside from him saying he wants to be closer to his son and LaLa, has Melo said anything? I'm pretty sure he hasn't commented publicly on trade talks / where he wants to go, although I might be mistaken. My thing is, if he'll accept a trade to Houston, why won't he accepted one to OKC which is just as close? What about other teams within 4-5 hours flying? If he wants to win a championship, why not open his teams to, again, OKC and other teams that are missing a piece or two?

To me, the main reason he wants to go to Houston is because of Paul (and, to a lesser extent, the no state tax). That's just me trying to get into Melo's head, but it's as good a guess as any. He sees Houston as the only place he is willing to play...for now. I honestly think the longer we hold out, the more fed-up he becomes and the more teams he includes on his "list" OR maybe he considers a buyout of less than 30 million (the latter being far more unlikely) Under no circumstance whatsoever should we be caving into ANY bad trade regardless of where he ends up - that's my stance.

[DaGawd]

BUY US NOW MALLORY!

[Handledatruth]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

Maybe he never wanted to leave in the first place. That's a fair reason right? Normally people ask for NTCs because they want to stay on the team they signed with. Logically, there are numerous other winning locations that Melo would fit in but maybe he sees Houston as the only best case scenario. Is he wrong? So for him it is either super dream scenario to play with his buddy and a MVP candidate or give himself one more shot at redemption in the city he loves. Until Knicks management comes and blatantly says "we are focused primarily on losing games this year", I don't see anything wrong with those two choices.

[HOF19]

Mallory you might get very popular just by being the reason that Knicks fans would say BYE BYE to Mr. Dolan !!!

[fatalogic]

Unfortunately very few people have the liquid cash to buy the Knicks outright as a solo owner.

[battabing10]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

Maybe he never wanted to leave in the first place. That's a fair reason right? Normally people ask for NTCs because they want to stay on the team they signed with. Logically, there are numerous other winning locations that Melo would fit in but maybe he sees Houston as the only best case scenario. Is he wrong? So for him it is either super dream scenario to play with his buddy and a MVP candidate or give himself one more shot at redemption in the city he loves. Until Knicks management comes and blatantly says "we are focused primarily on losing games this year", I don't see anything wrong with those two choices.

Maybe he never wanted to leave in the first place AND he wanted to control where he could be traded if things didn't work out. Maybe getting guaranteed $$$ on a longer stint was not enough. I guess if you're Melo you want it ALL. Of course this means you are an active participant in your career and bear as much if not more responsibility if things go south. And if you complain about a window closing and whatnot and the window closes with nothing to show for it you have ZERO chance to play the victim card.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

Maybe he never wanted to leave in the first place. That's a fair reason right? Normally people ask for NTCs because they want to stay on the team they signed with. Logically, there are numerous other winning locations that Melo would fit in but maybe he sees Houston as the only best case scenario. Is he wrong? So for him it is either super dream scenario to play with his buddy and a MVP candidate or give himself one more shot at redemption in the city he loves. Until Knicks management comes and blatantly says "we are focused primarily on losing games this year", I don't see anything wrong with those two choices.

The team has made it ABUNDANTLY clear that they are focusing on a youth movement. They are not concerened with winning now. They are building for the future.

Melo has made it clear that he wants to win now. Have fun.


Those 2 positions cannot coexist. So Melo is choosing money over winning.

That is the only logical reason. He would hold us up to have his cake and eat it too. He's done it several times now.

Players get NTC so they don't get shipped to bad scenarios. Losing teams. NOT because they wanted to stay on one. Only 3-4 players even have them. Not logical here. HE'S ON A BAD TEAM! There's no path to redemption here. Unless he willingly accepts a bench role as we rebuild. Is that a logical reason for a player who wants to win now and have fun?

I asked for logic given what we know. Not excuses.

[Greenie]

Can anyone come up with any logical reason for Melo to stay here? Seeing how he is willing to go to Houston....distance from his kid isn't flying either. Seeing how he wants to win now and have fun, NY is not an option but, he won't leave unless we send him to Houston. So if Houston doesn't offer value, what logical reason does Melo have to play here another year? Why would he want to play somewherein a limited role, on a losing team that wants to trade him and move on? Where is the logic? I can't see it.

I know the reason he is saying it. He's forcing a bad trade to get his wishes. Everything else he has said on the matter is basically a lie. I want to know what logic is he using. His stance of Houston or nothing and his comments on winning and having fun do not fit logically with him staying in NY. So what other logical reason is there?

Maybe he never wanted to leave in the first place. That's a fair reason right? Normally people ask for NTCs because they want to stay on the team they signed with. Logically, there are numerous other winning locations that Melo would fit in but maybe he sees Houston as the only best case scenario. Is he wrong? So for him it is either super dream scenario to play with his buddy and a MVP candidate or give himself one more shot at redemption in the city he loves. Until Knicks management comes and blatantly says "we are focused primarily on losing games this year", I don't see anything wrong with those two choices.

I said this before. It's not registering with people that want him gone at all costs.

[F N 11]

Dont come for me