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Post#1401 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:49 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:The mall thrived for awhile when it first opened but eventually died out. The downtown office workers couldn't sustain it and it was a deadzone nights/weekends. If it could be connected to the new arena it might have a chance. It's had several owners over the years, it was last sold in 2015. The current owners have talked about only having shopping on the first floor and turning the second floor into offices. I don't really know what the current status of the place is, I haven't been in it since I last worked downtown a long time ago.

I think that whole area of downtown will be next to see some development, someone needs to come and put the grand ave mall out of its misery.


Yeah, the last time I was in the Grand Ave it was like a ghost town. I felt when I was at MU (early 2000s) that it was still going fairly well although not nearly as popular as the other malls like Mayfair and Southridge. But my wife & I needed to go into TJ Maxx a few years ago now probably and it was kind of sad walking through that mall. I remember back in the day they had that bar in the food court. Murphy's in the Mall or something, haha.
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Post#1402 » by SirChurros » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:56 pm

Grand Avenue was a staple of my childhood.

We'd always stop there whenever we came to Milwaukee. I loved the dude on the tightrope in the food court when I was little.
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Post#1403 » by GBPackers47 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:00 pm

was in Milwaukee last week and walked past the arena. The photos don't even do justice to how awesome it looks. Hell, that entire area, including the stretch down Water where it eventually turns into Brady has seen such a rejuvenation in the last 5-7 years. Great to see.
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Post#1404 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:39 pm


The topping off of the new Milwaukee Bucks arena project means far more than the symbolic placing of structural steel high above the seating bowl.

In a little more than a year, the Bucks have created a new gateway into downtown, especially for motorists exiting I-43 onto McKinley Blvd.

Drivers see the recently opened Bucks $31 million practice facility and a new parking ramp, with the swooping north side of the $524 million arena providing a dramatic backdrop. It's been months of "oh, wow" moments as the arena walls, windows and roof are installed by an army of cranes and fearless workers inching along beams and swarming the roof.

Those highlights and the overall progress on the arena will be celebrated by a crowd of about 1,000 Thursday at an invitation-only event and lunch. The gathering will include Bucks owners and employees, construction workers, subcontractors and suppliers, and, of course, public officials who helped secure $250 million in taxpayer money for the arena.

During the event, a beam will be lifted and bolted into place high above the seating bowl. An American flag and a small evergreen will be placed on each end of the beam, the latter an iron worker tradition meant to symbolize prosperity and good luck.

"It's a celebratory milestone. We're only 14 months away from breaking ground," Bucks President Peter Feigin said.

"This is a real progress report," he said, adding that the Bucks were especially pleased that the project is on track, on budget, and with no serious worker injuries.

The topping off is a "super important moment" for all involved, especially the iron workers, said Angie Helfert, a Mortenson project manager for the Wisconsin Entertainment and Sports Center project, the formal name for the Bucks arena and associated development. Mortenson is the construction manager for the arena project.

Workers from companies such as Merrill Iron & Steel of Schofield in north central Wisconsin, which fabricated the structural steel, will have a chance to see their contributions.

"They aren't on site, so they generally don't get to see what they've been working on," Helfert said,

On Thursday, the beam will be positioned not in the highest spot of the arena, but at the catwalk level on either side of where the score board will eventually be stationed.

The Bucks' topping off differs in several ways from the similar stage in the construction of the area's most recently completed publicly financed arena, the Milwaukee Brewers' Miller Park in the fall of 2000.

The Brewers invited the community for a daylong celebration that drew thousands of people who signed an iron "box chord" beam for the stadium's retractable roof and made a contribution to America's Second Harvest of Wisconsin.

On Wednesday, Bucks season ticket holders were invited to sign one of two beams. The beam lifted Thursday will be signed by Bucks staff, dignitaries, iron workers and season ticket holders. A second beam signed by other workers will be lifted Friday.

The differences between the Bucks' and Brewers' events in part reflects the acrimonious debate and size of the public financing for Miller Park. The $400 million baseball stadium was created with a five-county 0.1% sales tax approved in a dramatic late night vote that ultimately cost a state senator his job. Public support of the Bucks arena is a $250 million package from the city, county and convention center that was approved with far less controversy.

Also, the Brewers didn't hold a formal topping off ceremony, in deference to the three iron workers who died in the Big Blue crane collapse in July 1999. That tragedy added a year to the Miller Park construction schedule and opened in the spring of 2001.

The Bucks' topping off also provides a moment to consider what's next.

For some people, their work is winding down and it's off to the next building. Young Mortenson engineer Ellen Becker, for instance, landed a promotion and is heading to Las Vegas soon to work on the new football stadium for the Las Vegas Raiders.

For others, it's a start — employment on the site will grow from about 700 now to 800 as the work moves to finishing the interior. There will be more dry wall finishers and painters and fewer steel workers and roofers.

In addition to the arena itself, it's increasingly apparent how the Bucks projects will bridge the redeveloped Pabst complex at the west end of downtown with the bars and restaurants along Old World Third St. and Water St. That broader impact was a key argument in efforts to secure the public financing for the arena.

Later this year, an ancillary project, a Froedtert medical clinic, will open next to the practice facility.

Beyond the continuing construction, the Bucks have plenty on their plate in the months ahead. Soon, the team will announce the naming rights package, a deal that Feigin says could be worth up to $100 million.

For the hundreds of construction workers on the site, Thursday's event is a time to pause and reflect and then get back on schedule once the hundreds of guests clear out. As of now, that shouldn't been too much of a problem.

"What's cool is that we're right on track," Helfert said.

Before work began, Mortenson set a detailed schedule with dates for moments such as each roof truss lift.

"We've hit all of those dates and that schedule was set more than a year ago," Helfert said. "That's what we expect."
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction - Topping Off Page 71 

Post#1405 » by HaroldinGMinor » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:23 pm

"Is 'topping off' a slang term of some sort?" he asked.
She opened Urban Dictionary and replied, "Yes. Yes it is."
At a party given by a billionaire, Kurt Vonnegut informs Joseph Heller that their host had made more money in a single day than Heller had earned from his novel Catch-22.

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Post#1406 » by MadBlueEdwards » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:04 am

I don't really get in to the LED bashing, but this picture made me laugh. Alex Lasry writes his name like a 4th grader and his pal Jonathan Zuckerbrod writes his like every girl I went to high school with.

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Post#1407 » by trwi7 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:43 am

MadBlueEdwards wrote:Jonathan Zuckerbrod writes his like every girl I went to high school with.


Well he does have broad in his name.
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Post#1408 » by Black_Dragon » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:06 pm

Really hope this is done early next season.

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Post#1409 » by bigkurty » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:11 pm

MadBlueEdwards wrote:Jonathan Zuckerbrod writes his like every girl I went to high school with.

Lol, so true
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Post#1410 » by Prince12 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:23 pm

Alex LAsry unsure of when caps are required.
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Post#1411 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:30 pm

Black_Dragon wrote:Really hope this is done early next season.

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Agreed. Depends on when "fall" is. If they can start it in September or early October it would be done by the start of the season if everything is on schedule. It won't be a finished product but it's something. It will take while for everything to fill in around the new arena.
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Post#1412 » by trwi7 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:05 pm

Prince12 wrote:Alex LAsry unsure of when caps are required.


My dad writes in all caps and it baffles me. Do you know how much longer it takes to write everything in caps? I've tried it and I get annoyed after like two words so I switch back to a mix between block letters and cursive, which works amazingly well.
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Post#1413 » by VooDoo7 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:55 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Prince12 wrote:Alex LAsry unsure of when caps are required.


I switch back to a mix between block letters and cursive, which works amazingly well.

Good to know I'm not the only weird one who writes like this.
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Post#1414 » by Prince12 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:15 am

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Prince12 wrote:Alex LAsry unsure of when caps are required.


I switch back to a mix between block letters and cursive, which works amazingly well.

Good to know I'm not the only weird one who writes like this.

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Post#1415 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:47 pm

Zinc panels started being installed today. I really didn't like the look of them in the drawings, hopefully they look better when actually installed.
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Post#1416 » by trwi7 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:53 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I really didn't like the look of them in the drawings, hopefully they look better when actually installed.


Nope

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Post#1417 » by SirChurros » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:55 pm

I think they look fine.
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Post#1418 » by Black_Dragon » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:57 pm

Marvin Berry wrote:I think they look fine.


I agree, I think it will look sharp.

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Post#1419 » by SirChurros » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:58 pm

Does anyone know how are they going to eventually bring the Bradley Center down? Seems awfully close for a controlled implosion.
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Post#1420 » by mcfromage » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:59 pm

I like the zinc more than I expected to.

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