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Post#601 » by ontnut » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:36 pm

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all speculation. all the sources are "saying" Cavs want either Tatum or Brown.

I want a lot of things too. Like for Taylor Swift's new song not to suck so bad.


haha. i hope they get more from Boston. takes more assets away from Boston, which in turn helps the Raptors as Boston loses its depth and a bit of its future.

I'll admit I was happy to see Boston giving up so much for Kyrie. If they have to give up more, all the better.
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Post#602 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:34 pm

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ontnut wrote:I want a lot of things too. Like for Taylor Swift's new song not to suck so bad.


haha. i hope they get more from Boston. takes more assets away from Boston, which in turn helps the Raptors as Boston loses its depth and a bit of its future.

I'll admit I was happy to see Boston giving up so much for Kyrie. If they have to give up more, all the better.


exactly. it helps the east's parity short to long term.

I think a void of this helps Raptors too. Either IT is too hurt to play + Crowder is resentful to MGMT. IT out for first half of the season and noone is there to close out games for them (IT led 4th quarter scoring if I'm not mistaken, even for a bit of the season last year) though i think Hayward will be fine as well

Kyrie obviously too disgruntled to play well for the Cavs.

Raps winning this trade.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#603 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:56 pm

I hope this trade falls apart so I can watch the celtics and their fans try fix their relationship with IT.
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Post#604 » by Patman » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:05 pm

RaptorsNorth wrote:I hope this trade falls apart so I can watch the celtics and their fans try fix their relationship with IT.


Hahaha that's exactly what would happen. The trade will be completed, but if it didn't, Celtic fans will be hilarious about it.

Celtic fans after trade originally announced: "Kyrie is better and younger anyways. IT doesn't deserve the max. The dude has a bum hip. He's a pylon on D."

If trade falls apart: "I'm glad it didn't go through. IT was the heart and soul of the team. A hip injury is not that serious. IT gives us MVP Iverson production."
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Post#605 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:26 pm

I'm waiting for Cleveland to walk away from this once they realize they are playing for today, not rebuilding and that the picks don't make up for Kyrie if IT can't play.
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Post#606 » by Basketball_Jones » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:41 pm

IT done, Boston wins that trade!
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Post#607 » by Mak » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:38 pm

best outcome if trade gets reversed and IT is out for the year.
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Post#608 » by I_Like_Dirt » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:10 pm

RaptorsNorth wrote:I hope this trade falls apart so I can watch the celtics and their fans try fix their relationship with IT.


The fun part would be that, with IT heading into unrestricted free agency and already knowing what the Celtics feel about the idea of paying him - that they would give up Crowder and the Nets pick just to turn him into Kyrie - he basically has 0 incentive to put himself on the line if/when he does return. I mean, he has incentive to play well enough to show that he's recovered and worthy of a contract, but no incentive to put his health on the line like he did last season to push to win games singlehandedly for the Celtics or crash into the paint in the playoffs. He knows the team really doesn't want to commit big money to him, so why risk getting big money from another team? The Celtics better hope that the untouchable Terry Rozier is better than the previously untouchable Marcus Banks.
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Post#609 » by ontnut » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:16 pm

They'll probably end up sending some late 1st, like the Boston pick, to make this work. Maybe it's top 20 protected, to become 2 2nds next year or something.
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Post#610 » by So_Fresh » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:22 pm

Any chance we can swoop in and offer a package of JV and Wright or Powell with a draft pick for Irving?

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Post#611 » by NetsDynasty2012 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:53 pm

So_Fresh wrote:Any chance we can swoop in and offer a package of JV and Wright or Powell with a draft pick for Irving?

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Post#612 » by RaptorsLife » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:06 pm

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So_Fresh wrote:Any chance we can swoop in and offer a package of JV and Wright or Powell with a draft pick for Irving?

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Zero chance

Yeah nothing gonna top that Brooklyn pick. Easy top 5 pick with how trash that team is.
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Post#613 » by Mak » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:23 am

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Post#614 » by Mak » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:26 am

All this for a second round pick. Can't wait for season to start. IT better stay healthy if he has hip problems again he is going to lose so much money. But even now who knows how much he will get next year, not as much as he wants or he thinks he will get.
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Post#615 » by zilby » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:28 am

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Post#617 » by Donlogic » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:32 am

Mak wrote:All this for a second round pick. Can't wait for season to start. IT better stay healthy if he has hip problems again he is going to lose so much money. But even now who knows how much he will get next year, not as much as he wants or he thinks he will get.


If IT is broken the second round picks gives the Cavs a chance to find the next new version deep in the second round.
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Post#618 » by RaptorsLife » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:48 am

Cavs got no PG. If only Lowry could play well in playoffs damn
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Post#619 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:52 am

zilby wrote:
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Well, that was a big kerfuffle for nothing.


Finally. Well... still pretty happy to see Boston get slightly worse next year from this trade. Whether it was because IT wasn't going to play of because they gave IT and Crowder up to get Kyrie. It buys them one year of not paying tax before they max Kyrie, but that's just dollars. They will be capped out until 19-20 earliest which is good timing. But they finally have balanced their roster it seems.
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Post#620 » by ChromeKid » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:26 am

So if IT never gets healthy do we have a chance vs the cavs?

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