ATL - New Lottery Rules Move to Owner Vote - pg59

[chonestown]

I know some of you guys would rather have CJ McCollum, though.

I'd rather have CJ for 70% of what Irving would cost in terms of assets. All else equal, Kyrie is the superior player.

[BuckHole]

Who on our team does not fit the Giannis style? Would you say Jabari is a player that doesn't fit in well with our scheme? Moose probably doesn't either, right? Or do you consider the second rotation as a whole new scheme? I'd trade Delly, Henson, Moose, Parker (who I love), & 1st rounder. The rest seem to fit into Giannis world. Also, would Kyrie stay with us? Is this a short window for success? 2 years?
We need to build players around Giannis.


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[DingleJerry]

I know some of you guys would rather have CJ McCollum, though.

I'd rather have CJ for 70% of what Irving would cost in terms of assets. All else equal, Kyrie is the superior player.

It's a helluva lot closer to equal than joe schmo public realizes though. I'd slightly go Kyrie but the gap isn't that wide. Biggest difference is playing with LBJ and an awesome ad campaign that came with being picked #1.

[FlagsFlyForever]

I'm trying to imagine how horrific our bench would be if we gave up Brog, Mids, Thon and Delly. I don't think I'm capable of imagining something so disgusting.

PG: Kyrie, GP2
SG: Shump, Vaughn, Brown
SF: Snell, Parker
PF: Giannis, Wilson, Mirza
C: Monroe, Henson, Hawes

Maybe that is why they brought in that big list of players to work out today? Sign Burke, Jason Terry with the open roster spots

The only thing worse than that bench is the Bucks defense with that roster. You almost can't start Jabari with Kyrie, even if Jabari becomes an efficient 25 ppg guy.

[SupremeHustle]

I know some of you guys would rather have CJ McCollum, though.

I'd rather have CJ for 70% of what Irving would cost in terms of assets. All else equal, Kyrie is the superior player.

Forget about Dame for a second. Who would Portland have to add with McCollum in order to get Kyrie? I'm asking in order to calibrate McCollum's worth.

[SupremeHustle]

At the end of the day I think we all know that Middleton/Maker or Middleton/Brogdon isn't enough to get it done, whether we like the deal or not.

[trwi7]

I'm trying to imagine how horrific our bench would be if we gave up Brog, Mids, Thon and Delly. I don't think I'm capable of imagining something so disgusting.

PG: Kyrie, GP2
SG: Shump, Vaughn, Brown
SF: Snell, Parker
PF: Giannis, Wilson, Mirza
C: Monroe, Henson, Hawes

Maybe that is why they brought in that big list of players to work out today? Sign Burke, Jason Terry with the open roster spots

The worst part about this is we're already in the tax and this would just take us further into the tax, not by much, about $1.5 million but still.

[trwi7]

At the end of the day I think we all know that Middleton/Maker or Middleton/Brogdon isn't enough to get it done, whether we like the deal or not.

Of course Giannis/Irving/complete **** isn't going to get it done either.

[M-C-G]

I'm trying to imagine how horrific our bench would be if we gave up Brog, Mids, Thon and Delly. I don't think I'm capable of imagining something so disgusting.

PG: Kyrie, GP2
SG: Shump, Vaughn, Brown
SF: Snell, Parker
PF: Giannis, Wilson, Mirza
C: Monroe, Henson, Hawes

Maybe that is why they brought in that big list of players to work out today? Sign Burke, Jason Terry with the open roster spots

The worst part about this is we're already in the tax and this would just take us further into the tax, not by much, about $1.5 million but still.

Yeah, you almost need to move Henson/Mirza and whichever of Vaughn, Brown, Wilson, 1sts it takes get expirings. Take your lumps a bit this year with a bunch of vet mins to fill out the roster and then make your pitch to Paul George in the offseason.

[BroncoBuck]

I like Middleton, but you can't dismiss his hammy. If we knew we were getting the Middleton we saw for the second half of last season, I would absolutely have no issue including him in a trade for Kyrie.

You do know Kyrie has a grocery list injury history right?

[SupremeHustle]

At the end of the day I think we all know that Middleton/Maker or Middleton/Brogdon isn't enough to get it done, whether we like the deal or not.

Of course Giannis/Irving/complete **** isn't going to get it done either.

Get what done? I'm talking about getting Kyrie. I think you're talking about a championship -- maybe?

[trwi7]

JS says no talks between Bucks and Cavs.

However, according to a league source who spoke with the Journal Sentinel on Wednesday, there is "nothing" to these reports. In fact, the source says there have not even been conversations between the Bucks and Cavaliers.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2017/08/30/source-nothing-kyrie-irving-trade-rumors-involving-bucks/614121001/

[paulpressey25]

JS says no talks between Bucks and Cavs.

Of course not.

Good thing MJS is still out there to get the team approved leaks.

[FlagsFlyForever]

JS says no talks between Bucks and Cavs.

However, according to a league source who spoke with the Journal Sentinel on Wednesday, there is "nothing" to these reports. In fact, the source says there have not even been conversations between the Bucks and Cavaliers.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2017/08/30/source-nothing-kyrie-irving-trade-rumors-involving-bucks/614121001/

We need a politifact for reporters. Matt Velazquez and Jon Krawczynski say there is nothing to this. John Gambodoro and Zach Lowe say the offer was made. Has anybody else claimed to have "sources" regarding the Bucks involvement?

EDIT: machu46 has a source claiming Milwaukee has indeed made the offer to Cleveland for Kyrie.

[machu46]

JS says no talks between Bucks and Cavs.

However, according to a league source who spoke with the Journal Sentinel on Wednesday, there is "nothing" to these reports. In fact, the source says there have not even been conversations between the Bucks and Cavaliers.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2017/08/30/source-nothing-kyrie-irving-trade-rumors-involving-bucks/614121001/

We need a politifact for reporters. Matt Velazquez and Jon Krawczynski say there is nothing to this. John Gambodoro and Zach Lowe say the offer was made. Has anybody else claimed to have "sources" regarding the Bucks involvement?

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[ReasonablySober]

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[crkone]

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His twitter storm is interesting.

[mattg]

At the end of the day I think we all know that Middleton/Maker or Middleton/Brogdon isn't enough to get it done, whether we like the deal or not.

Of course Giannis/Irving/complete **** isn't going to get it done either.

Are people seriously worried about the Bucks being unable to sign bench players to fill out the roster? Especially if the team has Giannis and Kyrie? This team has never had an issue signing middling players to fill out its rotation. The whole allure of adding Kyrie is that it instantly puts you in play for any star players who are trying to escape their current situation to form a big 3.

[SirChurros]

I like Middleton, but you can't dismiss his hammy. If we knew we were getting the Middleton we saw for the second half of last season, I would absolutely have no issue including him in a trade for Kyrie.

You do know Kyrie has a grocery list injury history right?

Kyrie has never ripped his hamstring off the bone.

[ReasonablySober]

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This is the point.

Also this is funny in relation to what I said earlier, which is exactly this:

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