Eurobasket 2017 SLOVENIA takes the gold

[Maury2423]

anybody having trouble streaming from espn3? It's just telling me that the event is about to begin and to stand by

[Thespianoid]

anybody having trouble streaming from espn3? It's just telling me that the event is about to begin and to stand by

yeah it's not working. I'm using the stream from the previous post before yours

[DaddyCool19]

If anyone wants a free legal stream use https://www.telekomsport.de/basketball/eurobasket2017
I guess you would need a german proxy but that should be doable.

https://www.telekomsport.de/basketball/eurobasket2017/programm
Here is the list of the games that they are going to stream. If you want to watch a game just hover over the game and click "ANSEHEN" and thats it.

[a-French-Fan]

I am at hartwall Arena in Helsinki. Slovenia-Poland 53-46. Dragic upsets me, he defends with hands and there is no call. On the other side, a lot of floaping. Doncic and Prepelic, it looks like more basket ball
For Poland, hopefully Slaughter, Ponitka and Cel are here. Too much garbage with Waczynski and Karnowski (for him, gap is too huge between NCAA and Eurobasket)

Attendance is very low, less than 200. Maybe there will ne more people for 2nd game with Island.

[Cresy06]

http://www.ntvspor.net/canli-yayin

Might be a better stream than the one posted earlier. Turkish commentary tho...

[UcanUwill]

Randolph playing well, Dragic playing very well.

By the way, I added all rosters in opening post. If you a mistake anywhere, please tell.

[the_other_guy]

Odds for Slovenia were -250 (or 1.4). Not great odds, but probably easiest money to be made in day 1.

[jptremblay]

Doncic will have a good NBA career, but he isn't a game changer nor a top prospect for me. I think it's overrated,just like any Euro-prospect nowadays who plays at a decent/good level in a top european team as a teenager who later comes to the NBA without even dominate in Europe.
Great IQ, decent athleticism, great lenght and decent shooting hability, but I don't see him as leader.

[Cresy06]

Doncic will have a good NBA career, but he isn't a game changer nor a top prospect for me. I think it's overrated,just like any Euro-prospect nowadays who plays at a decent/good level in a top european team as a teenager who later comes to the NBA without even dominate in Europe.
Great IQ, decent athleticism, great lenght and decent shooting hability, but I don't see him as leader.

He just turned 18 and has never played an NBA game. I see all these youtube videos of him being the best prospect ever and so on.

We should just stop judging and hyping him, it will just raise expectations until everybody expects him to be a Lebron type player and nobody ever said he would be as good as Lebron (I hope).

[UcanUwill]

I see him as leader. Not a primary scorer, but its more to leadership then being a number 1 option. He looks Steve Nash Jason Kidd type, he plays commanding role at age 18, looks like a strong presence. Even when his shot is completely off like today, he is contributing in all the other areas. Whats not to like?

[jptremblay]

I see him as leader. Not a primary scorer, but its more to leadership then being a number 1 option. He looks Steve Nash Jason Kidd type, he plays commanding role at age 18, looks like a strong presence. Even when his shot is completely off like today, he is contributing in all the other areas. Whats not to like?

There are different types of leaders. Rubio were a leader in the Wolves, a leader in the floor, a leader to make the right plays plus making his teammates better...but he is not a leader whoi leads you for a champion or even a great run at the playoffs.
In my opinion, he's more flashy than productive, but still a productive player with a great impact on the floor. It's a nice piece to use to build a great core, but not to built around him.

[Pachinko_]

Doncic will have a good NBA career, but he isn't a game changer nor a top prospect for me. I think it's overrated,just like any Euro-prospect nowadays who plays at a decent/good level in a top european team as a teenager who later comes to the NBA without even dominate in Europe.
Great IQ, decent athleticism, great lenght and decent shooting hability, but I don't see him as leader.

who are those teenagers who played at a decent/good level for top european teams? I can only think of Rubio

[Cresy06]

https://www.telekomsport.de/event/deutschland-ukraine/11047

Yep, this one is HD. German VPN is all you need

[ReKon]

Doncic will have a good NBA career, but he isn't a game changer nor a top prospect for me. I think it's overrated,just like any Euro-prospect nowadays who plays at a decent/good level in a top european team as a teenager who later comes to the NBA without even dominate in Europe.
Great IQ, decent athleticism, great lenght and decent shooting hability, but I don't see him as leader.

who are those teenagers who played at a decent/good level for top european teams? I can only think of Rubio

Hezonja was a rotational player for Barcelona as well.

[UcanUwill]

Slovenia opens tournament with a win over Poland.

Slovenia 90-81 Poland

Goran Dragic : 30 pts. 2 rbs. 4 asi.
Luka Doncic : 11 pts. 8 rbs. 6 asi.
A. Randolph : 7 pts. 10 rbs. 4 asi.

[UcanUwill]

Doncic will have a good NBA career, but he isn't a game changer nor a top prospect for me. I think it's overrated,just like any Euro-prospect nowadays who plays at a decent/good level in a top european team as a teenager who later comes to the NBA without even dominate in Europe.
Great IQ, decent athleticism, great lenght and decent shooting hability, but I don't see him as leader.

who are those teenagers who played at a decent/good level for top european teams? I can only think of Rubio

Hezonja was a rotational player for Barcelona as well.

Hezonja was terrible. Its not even funny how much better Doncic is. Don't get me started on Hezonja again lol.

[jptremblay]

Doncic will have a good NBA career, but he isn't a game changer nor a top prospect for me. I think it's overrated,just like any Euro-prospect nowadays who plays at a decent/good level in a top european team as a teenager who later comes to the NBA without even dominate in Europe.
Great IQ, decent athleticism, great lenght and decent shooting hability, but I don't see him as leader.

who are those teenagers who played at a decent/good level for top european teams? I can only think of Rubio

Hezonja, know he looks like a bust.
Saric, Mirotic. Overrated prospects, although Saric has a fantastic future and has the chance to become an all-star someday.
Mirotic was always overrated, don't get me wrong, he's a good player if he is properly used in a great enviroment, but I will always remember the threads comparing him to Kukoc during his NBA 1st year...with lots of people expecting him to have a better career than Kukoc.

[Romeiro Celtic]

I'll still support my family homecountry Spain.

[Maury2423]

Odds for Slovenia were -250 (or 1.4). Not great odds, but probably easiest money to be made in day 1.

I have a 2 team parlay going on with Lithuania and Slovenia, hopefully Lithuania takes care of business

[Pachinko_]

yeah true
Although Saric and Mirotic really emerged at around 20 years old, to be a rotational piece for a true top euro club like Real at 18 years old is very rare

I think Doncic is a definitely better than Mirotic probably a little better than Saric, but not by much.