Markelle Fultz Discussion

[aHealthy3]

Evaluating a guy's work ethic this way is dumb also there's literally a snap from 7 hours ago of him in the gym.

Probably true and I'm just nitpicking getting antsy for the season to start. however, I maintain Kelle's ratio of fast food snaps to gym snaps is not favorable.

[76ciology]

Fultz is walking into probably the best situation for him. For once he isn't the only option on his team...this way he can learn the NBA game without having to be the man from jump...that's pretty key. Should help build good habits instead of bad ones that get overlooked because "welp no one else is there tho". If you really want to be negative, it also allows us to hide him from his weaknesses too via not overloading him. Its also rather rare for one of our rookies lately too...to actually get a chance to well...be a rookie....and not the savior of our souls.

Yup, I expect less ISO and less taking challenged shots for him.

[Mrcrockpots]

Simply. cannot. wait. for. this. season. to. start.

Recall when we blew out the Twolves last year in Philly? I remember that feeling vividly. It was such an odd feeling, considering we've been the team getting blown out 99% of the time the last several years. With Fultz and Redick standing on the perimeter, and transition pushers in Ben and Dario, I fully expect the Sixers to be a team that can go on very good runs (10-15 point swings) in just a few minutes. How many times did we watch the Sixers get a lead in the first half but lose that lead in the 3rd and 4th quarters. As fans, we were groomed to think of ways the Sixers would blow it in the 4th quarter. When it came to the 4th quarter, we lacked play makers and shot takers to keep the lead. How many agonizing times did we see Gerald chuck up a shot with a second left? Or TJ pass up a wide open 3 pointer? Or Embiid lose the handle or throw it away?

Embiid was phenomenal last year, but we can't expect him to carry us late in games like he did last year (I expect less turnovers in crunch time). There was zero ball movement then, and defenses would just collapse on Joel. It'll be interesting to see how Brett Brown coaches this team in crucial situations, especially trying to share duties between Simmons and Fultz. I'm really hoping Brown can keep this team under control in this area, as well as give our guys defined roles during crunch time. This will be the difference between us winning 35 games and 45 games (assuming Embiid is healthy).

Defined roles:
-JJ and Roco moving without the ball, running off screens.
-Embiid down low, getting him the ball near the rim, or using him on the elbow for pick and roll.
-Simmons running the pick and roll, attacking the rim, finding guys on the perimeter or a rolling Embiid, getting to the FT line.
-Where does that leave Fultz? He's too good to just leave on the perimeter.

How do you see the roles of Simmons and Fultz during crunch time? I see ISO situations going to Embiid and Fultz. I keep going back and forth with who should have the rock. Do you give it to Simmons, a playmaker, or Fultz, who has a better chance at breaking down his man with his handle and making the jump shot? Would it be better to have Simmons play off ball in these situations and let him fight for offensive rebounds?

Go Sixers! Less than one month til training camp guys.

[shawn_hemp]

Simply. cannot. wait. for. this. season. to. start.

Recall when we blew out the Twolves last year in Philly? I remember that feeling vividly. It was such an odd feeling, considering we've been the team getting blown out 99% of the time the last several years. With Fultz and Redick standing on the perimeter, and transition pushers in Ben and Dario, I fully expect the Sixers to be a team that can go on very good runs (10-15 point swings) in just a few minutes. How many times did we watch the Sixers get a lead in the first half but lose that lead in the 3rd and 4th quarters. As fans, we were groomed to think of ways the Sixers would blow it in the 4th quarter. When it came to the 4th quarter, we lacked play makers and shot takers to keep the lead. How many agonizing times did we see Gerald chuck up a shot with a second left? Or TJ pass up a wide open 3 pointer? Or Embiid lose the handle or throw it away?

Embiid was phenomenal last year, but we can't expect him to carry us late in games like he did last year (I expect less turnovers in crunch time). There was zero ball movement then, and defenses would just collapse on Joel. It'll be interesting to see how Brett Brown coaches this team in crucial situations, especially trying to share duties between Simmons and Fultz. I'm really hoping Brown can keep this team under control in this area, as well as give our guys defined roles during crunch time. This will be the difference between us winning 35 games and 45 games (assuming Embiid is healthy).

Defined roles:
-JJ and Roco moving without the ball, running off screens.
-Embiid down low, getting him the ball near the rim, or using him on the elbow for pick and roll.
-Simmons running the pick and roll, attacking the rim, finding guys on the perimeter or a rolling Embiid, getting to the FT line.
-Where does that leave Fultz? He's too good to just leave on the perimeter.

How do you see the roles of Simmons and Fultz during crunch time? I see ISO situations going to Embiid and Fultz. I keep going back and forth with who should have the rock. Do you give it to Simmons, a playmaker, or Fultz, who has a better chance at breaking down his man with his handle and making the jump shot? Would it be better to have Simmons play off ball in these situations and let him fight for offensive rebounds?

Go Sixers! Less than one month til training camp guys.

I think those sorts of questions will have to be answered over the course of the season IMO. There's so many new pieces that it is tough to even predict the lineup yet.

Im still under the impression that Simmons will be playing at PF but there is still a sentiment that he will be our starting PG, with Saric at 4.

A lineup with a Fultz/Redick back court and a Simmons/Fultz back court is two pretty different situations with different pros and cons.

I would actually want to see both of them experimented with though in preseason. It would be interesting to see if there was any advantage to be gained from it, although I'm not sure what Brett Brown has in plan for the rotation yet.

That is why this is such a big year for BB for me. He actually has to coach now and not just hype the future and give pats on the back. He has the tools now

[Unbreakable99]

Simply. cannot. wait. for. this. season. to. start.

Recall when we blew out the Twolves last year in Philly? I remember that feeling vividly. It was such an odd feeling, considering we've been the team getting blown out 99% of the time the last several years. With Fultz and Redick standing on the perimeter, and transition pushers in Ben and Dario, I fully expect the Sixers to be a team that can go on very good runs (10-15 point swings) in just a few minutes. How many times did we watch the Sixers get a lead in the first half but lose that lead in the 3rd and 4th quarters. As fans, we were groomed to think of ways the Sixers would blow it in the 4th quarter. When it came to the 4th quarter, we lacked play makers and shot takers to keep the lead. How many agonizing times did we see Gerald chuck up a shot with a second left? Or TJ pass up a wide open 3 pointer? Or Embiid lose the handle or throw it away?

Embiid was phenomenal last year, but we can't expect him to carry us late in games like he did last year (I expect less turnovers in crunch time). There was zero ball movement then, and defenses would just collapse on Joel. It'll be interesting to see how Brett Brown coaches this team in crucial situations, especially trying to share duties between Simmons and Fultz. I'm really hoping Brown can keep this team under control in this area, as well as give our guys defined roles during crunch time. This will be the difference between us winning 35 games and 45 games (assuming Embiid is healthy).

Defined roles:
-JJ and Roco moving without the ball, running off screens.
-Embiid down low, getting him the ball near the rim, or using him on the elbow for pick and roll.
-Simmons running the pick and roll, attacking the rim, finding guys on the perimeter or a rolling Embiid, getting to the FT line.
-Where does that leave Fultz? He's too good to just leave on the perimeter.

How do you see the roles of Simmons and Fultz during crunch time? I see ISO situations going to Embiid and Fultz. I keep going back and forth with who should have the rock. Do you give it to Simmons, a playmaker, or Fultz, who has a better chance at breaking down his man with his handle and making the jump shot? Would it be better to have Simmons play off ball in these situations and let him fight for offensive rebounds?

Go Sixers! Less than one month til training camp guys.

I think those sorts of questions will have to be answered over the course of the season IMO. There's so many new pieces that it is tough to even predict the lineup yet.

Im still under the impression that Simmons will be playing at PF but there is still a sentiment that he will be our starting PG, with Saric at 4.

A lineup with a Fultz/Redick back court and a Simmons/Fultz back court is two pretty different situations with different pros and cons.

I would actually want to see both of them experimented with though in preseason. I still think Simmons will be at 4 to start the season but it would be interesting to see if there was any advantage to be gained from it.

Why do you think Simmons will start the season at the 4 when Brown and Simmons both said he will be the PG? It's very clear they will start him out as our PG or primary ball handler however you want to call it. If he fails or struggles they may move him to the 4 but there's no way Simmons is starting at the 4.

[BigSleep333]

this stupid position discussion...simmons is physically a 4, so he IS a 4. he will defend 4's most of the time. this doesnt mean he wont be the primary ballhandler on offense (PG-role)

a S5 of fultz/redick/covington/simmons/embiid is so perfectly balanced imo. you are too easy to read if you just have one facilitator on the court, and thats why fultz will play a huge role in this lineup. i dont worry about fultz' role at all. his ft% worries me 100x times more and i dont really get why 90% on this board are not worried. cause he shot 40% from 3 in college? even justise winslow did that at a similiar rate. (reminder, im not a hater, im just worried cause of facts/stats)

[HotelVitale]

Why do you think Simmons will start the season at the 4 when Brown and Simmons both said he will be the PG? It's very clear they will start him out as our PG or primary ball handler however you want to call it. If he fails or struggles they may move him to the 4 but there's no way Simmons is starting at the 4.

I don't see any way he's not starting at the 4, though he'll bring the ball up much of the time (and almost always in transition) and the defense can guard him with whoever they want to. But he's not playing defense on anyone except 4s so he has to be the nominal 4. Fultz/Redick/Cov/Simmons/Embiid. Looks great on offense, might struggle to contain the perimeter on D.

[Unbreakable99]

Why do you think Simmons will start the season at the 4 when Brown and Simmons both said he will be the PG? It's very clear they will start him out as our PG or primary ball handler however you want to call it. If he fails or struggles they may move him to the 4 but there's no way Simmons is starting at the 4.

I don't see any way he's not starting at the 4, though he'll bring the ball up much of the time (and almost always in transition) and the defense can guard him with whoever they want to. But he's not playing defense on anyone except 4s so he has to be the nominal 4. Fultz/Redick/Cov/Simmons/Embiid. Looks great on offense, might struggle to contain the perimeter on D.

On defense Simmons will guard 4s and 3s. On offense he is going to be facilitating and bringing the ball up the court. He is going to be our PG. He is going to runt he offense thus he will be our PG.

[Mrcrockpots]

Simply. cannot. wait. for. this. season. to. start.

Recall when we blew out the Twolves last year in Philly? I remember that feeling vividly. It was such an odd feeling, considering we've been the team getting blown out 99% of the time the last several years. With Fultz and Redick standing on the perimeter, and transition pushers in Ben and Dario, I fully expect the Sixers to be a team that can go on very good runs (10-15 point swings) in just a few minutes. How many times did we watch the Sixers get a lead in the first half but lose that lead in the 3rd and 4th quarters. As fans, we were groomed to think of ways the Sixers would blow it in the 4th quarter. When it came to the 4th quarter, we lacked play makers and shot takers to keep the lead. How many agonizing times did we see Gerald chuck up a shot with a second left? Or TJ pass up a wide open 3 pointer? Or Embiid lose the handle or throw it away?

Embiid was phenomenal last year, but we can't expect him to carry us late in games like he did last year (I expect less turnovers in crunch time). There was zero ball movement then, and defenses would just collapse on Joel. It'll be interesting to see how Brett Brown coaches this team in crucial situations, especially trying to share duties between Simmons and Fultz. I'm really hoping Brown can keep this team under control in this area, as well as give our guys defined roles during crunch time. This will be the difference between us winning 35 games and 45 games (assuming Embiid is healthy).

Defined roles:
-JJ and Roco moving without the ball, running off screens.
-Embiid down low, getting him the ball near the rim, or using him on the elbow for pick and roll.
-Simmons running the pick and roll, attacking the rim, finding guys on the perimeter or a rolling Embiid, getting to the FT line.
-Where does that leave Fultz? He's too good to just leave on the perimeter.

How do you see the roles of Simmons and Fultz during crunch time? I see ISO situations going to Embiid and Fultz. I keep going back and forth with who should have the rock. Do you give it to Simmons, a playmaker, or Fultz, who has a better chance at breaking down his man with his handle and making the jump shot? Would it be better to have Simmons play off ball in these situations and let him fight for offensive rebounds?

Go Sixers! Less than one month til training camp guys.

I think those sorts of questions will have to be answered over the course of the season IMO. There's so many new pieces that it is tough to even predict the lineup yet.

Im still under the impression that Simmons will be playing at PF but there is still a sentiment that he will be our starting PG, with Saric at 4.

A lineup with a Fultz/Redick back court and a Simmons/Fultz back court is two pretty different situations with different pros and cons.

I would actually want to see both of them experimented with though in preseason. It would be interesting to see if there was any advantage to be gained from it, although I'm not sure what Brett Brown has in plan for the rotation yet.

That is why this is such a big year for BB for me. He actually has to coach now and not just hype the future and give pats on the back. He has the tools now

I'm expecting Simmons at the 4 most of the time, but I also expect BB to experiment a bit depending on matchups.

[HotelVitale]

Why do you think Simmons will start the season at the 4 when Brown and Simmons both said he will be the PG? It's very clear they will start him out as our PG or primary ball handler however you want to call it. If he fails or struggles they may move him to the 4 but there's no way Simmons is starting at the 4.

I don't see any way he's not starting at the 4, though he'll bring the ball up much of the time (and almost always in transition) and the defense can guard him with whoever they want to. But he's not playing defense on anyone except 4s so he has to be the nominal 4. Fultz/Redick/Cov/Simmons/Embiid. Looks great on offense, might struggle to contain the perimeter on D.

On defense Simmons will guard 4s and 3s. On offense he is going to be facilitating and bringing the ball up the court. He is going to be our PG. He is going to runt he offense thus he will be our PG.

No one disagrees with that. But you started this by disputing someone saying 'I don't think that Simmons will be the starting 1 with Saric starting at the 4'; so unless you think the lineup will be Simmons/Redick/Cov/Saric/Embiid, you're arguing with your own shadow.

[Ericb5]

We have debates over and over about what position Simmons will technically play, and there really is no one answer to the question because he is a hybrid.

The Sixers have a pretty obvious starting 5 to me though.

Convington plays the 4 on offense and guards the 3.

Redick plays the 3 on offense and guards the 2.

Embiid plays the 5 on offense and defense.

Fultz plays the 2 on offense and guards the 1.

Simmons plays the 1 on offense and guards the 4.

That is the starting roster of a playoff team.




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[76thBearCub]

We have debates over and over about what position Simmons will technically play, and there really is no one answer to the question because he is a hybrid.

The Sixers have a pretty obvious starting 5 to me though.

Convington plays the 4 on offense and guards the 3.

Redick plays the 3 on offense and guards the 2.

Embiid plays the 5 on offense and defense.

Fultz plays the 2 on offense and guards the 1.

Simmons plays the 1 on offense and guards the 4.

That is the starting roster of a playoff team.




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I think your right. People are just making it seem more complicated then it is to make a talking point imo.

That's the only reasonable lineup though. And it fits pretty damn nice. Almost feels like the culmination of a long term plan or something. Saric as our 6th man. Yea. I can drink to that.

[shawn_hemp]

Yeah I wasn't trying to say he wasn't going to be handling the ball like a PG, I just was wondering if maybe Brett Brown would actually have him defend other team's point guards just to see if it would work.

If it's some scrub on the other team, you could probably get away with it, especially with the amount of switching anyway.

I'm trying to imagine how Simmons and Saric would play together and I think it would be pretty nice actually. I know they are somewhat similar players and have similar deficiencies but I would also like to see that in the preseason.

Fultz/Roco/Simmons/Saric/Embiid

you know, the FREDS. That would be an interesting lineup to see. We never even really got to see Dario and Embiid both playing well at the same time

[76ciology]

We have debates over and over about what position Simmons will technically play, and there really is no one answer to the question because he is a hybrid.

The Sixers have a pretty obvious starting 5 to me though.

Convington plays the 4 on offense and guards the 3.

Redick plays the 3 on offense and guards the 2.

Embiid plays the 5 on offense and defense.

Fultz plays the 2 on offense and guards the 1.

Simmons plays the 1 on offense and guards the 4.

That is the starting roster of a playoff team.




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Fultz plays 3 and guards 1 IMO. Fultz is more versatile than Reddick who's more of just an off ball shooter

[Mrcrockpots]

We have debates over and over about what position Simmons will technically play, and there really is no one answer to the question because he is a hybrid.

The Sixers have a pretty obvious starting 5 to me though.

Convington plays the 4 on offense and guards the 3.

Redick plays the 3 on offense and guards the 2.

Embiid plays the 5 on offense and defense.

Fultz plays the 2 on offense and guards the 1.

Simmons plays the 1 on offense and guards the 4.

That is the starting roster of a playoff team.




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Fultz plays 3 and guards 1 IMO. Fultz is more versatile than Reddick who's more of just an off ball shooter

Really hoping we get to see a good chunk of a Fultz and TLC back court. In fact I think we could see a lot of that pairing in the 4th quarter when we need a defensive stop. That defense has real potential.

[sixerswillrule]

We have debates over and over about what position Simmons will technically play, and there really is no one answer to the question because he is a hybrid.

The Sixers have a pretty obvious starting 5 to me though.

Convington plays the 4 on offense and guards the 3.

Redick plays the 3 on offense and guards the 2.

Embiid plays the 5 on offense and defense.

Fultz plays the 2 on offense and guards the 1.

Simmons plays the 1 on offense and guards the 4.

That is the starting roster of a playoff team.




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Fultz plays 3 and guards 1 IMO. Fultz is more versatile than Reddick who's more of just an off ball shooter

More of a ball handler on offense = more of a guard on offense

[76ciology]

We have debates over and over about what position Simmons will technically play, and there really is no one answer to the question because he is a hybrid.

The Sixers have a pretty obvious starting 5 to me though.

Convington plays the 4 on offense and guards the 3.

Redick plays the 3 on offense and guards the 2.

Embiid plays the 5 on offense and defense.

Fultz plays the 2 on offense and guards the 1.

Simmons plays the 1 on offense and guards the 4.

That is the starting roster of a playoff team.




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Fultz plays 3 and guards 1 IMO. Fultz is more versatile than Reddick who's more of just an off ball shooter

More of a ball handler on offense = more of a guard on offense

Say point guard and this thread is guaranteed to add another 100 pages

[sixerswillrule]

Fultz plays 3 and guards 1 IMO. Fultz is more versatile than Reddick who's more of just an off ball shooter

More of a ball handler on offense = more of a guard on offense

Say point guard and this thread is guaranteed to add another 100 pages

Just saying between Fultz and Redick, the guard on offense is Fultz not Redick.

Between Fultz and Simmons...shared duties. Simmons more of the PG because he's more pass oriented.

But labels are meaningless.

[Sixerscan]

Who they guard is going to depend game to game and quarter to quarter.

Not sure what the difference between the 2 and 3 on offense is. Clearly Fultz will play the wing differently than Redick will who will play differently than TLC will etc etc etc.

[europeanfan]

Markelle is a point guard no matter what you all say. And a good and willing passer, the Kobe comparison never made any sense.

Point guard will be shared like between CP3 and Harden, put that in your brain.

Anyway if you don't let Fultz play PG it didn't make sense to trade for him. He won't be happy and his value will be minimized for future trades like Harden.

Hell I'm willing to take the bet that the offense will be better with Fultz at PG than Ben, at least when Embiid sits out a game (since he's pretty much a cheat code). The gravity of a guy who can pull up for 3 is just way different. Markelle will create space for everyone while Ben like Rondo will reduces everyones space.