Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[3toheadmelo]

[NYF13]

Take a look at the Celtics depth chart. They have an opening in the PF position.

Soon there will be a battle between BOS vs CLE vs HOU for Melo's service.

BOS is very slick and would compensate to bring Melo in.

[louieOrr]

1. How exactly do you know that they don't want him that bad? Because they haven't been able to put together a package that is worth the Knicks taking? That could actually just be because they actually don't have anything to offer...try as they might? Haven't you ever seen something in a store that your really, really want that you can't afford? So because you never were able to find a way to buy it does it mean you don't still really want it?

2. Maybe he really doesn't want to be traded? I mean he pretty much picked the one team in the NBA that has the least to offer that the Knicks would want. So maybe that is his take. I mean Jim Boeheim (his former HC at Syracuse) did actually say a month back that Anthony actually would rather stay in NY (and that the Triangle was idiotic). Maybe Boeheim was throwing a hint on what Anthony really wants instead of what the media says he wants?

3. Regarding impossible to trade him...well that's why you never ever ever ever give a guy like Anthony a No Trade Clause. Apparently Phil Jackson couldn't grasp that. But, since he got it, can't blame him for using it. What do you want him to do? Say "you know what, you guys were idiots for giving it to me, so...here...you can have it back"? After how he's been treated? Why on earth would he do that? Maybe if Phil Jackson actually talked directly to him mano-a-mano instead of throwing him under the bus indirectly through his media mouthpieces Anthony would have been willing to be more flexible?

He has every right to exercise his NTC.

But Moo, if you really want a player, you don't offer turd packages like Anderson. If Houston really wanted him, they would move Gordon and or Ariza to get the assets they need to make this work for us. Especially Gordon who is made of Teflon.

We don't know if they have and the Knicks still didn't want it. Also remember, this is Morey. He's used to scenting blood, circling and trying to get a great deal. Thank goodness Jackson isn't still here or we'd probably be lamenting 3 years of Ryan Anderson. I don't think the Rockets not including Ariza or Gordon (assuming the Knicks didn't already turn it down) is a sign they don't want him. Rather it would be Morey still waiting to see if the Knicks FO blinks. It's not like he has to make the trade now. The Rockets are fine for the regular season. The Anthony trade is more for the post season where things get more difficult and you want another top dog that can put pressure on opposing teams.

How do you know Phil didn't talk to him mono e mono several times before he said publically, we aren't winning with him, he would be better off on a contender.

Because it's not in Phil's MO? Jackson used to use his mouthpieces to criticize his players all the time. Only difference is those players reacted differently than Anthony did. This is by no means the first time Jackson has used this tactic. Former players (Kobe, MJ, etc.) has said that this way of using the media is just Phil being Phil.

Why is it only ok for a player to demand a trade , but not a front office doing the same exact thing in essence?

Because the player has a NTC? Teams demand and follow through with trades all the time if they don't want a player or they think another direction better for the team. The reason why you never hear front offices demand a trade is because NORMALLY the front office holds all the cards. They don't need to demand, they just go ahead and do. The only time they don't and can't just go ahead and trade a guy instead of just asking and talking about it is if they give that guy a no trade clause. There's a reason why I reacted so vociferously and negatively when it was announced that Jackson and the Knicks had given Anthony a NTC. Because I knew this was going to happen. It was a HUGE, HUGE blunder...in a long line of blunders by Jackson.

Melo is never flexable when it comes to his $$$. That's all this is about.

In this case I don't think it's even about the money since he's said apparently he'd be willing to waive the trade kicker to get a trade done. This time I think it's personal. He feels disrespected by the Knicks and there's no reason why he has to give an inch. The Knicks gave him full control. If you have a beef with someone, would you go and agree to give them anything? No. Well not unless you are much better man than most folks. And you can tell Anthony has been basically biting his tongue and now he's sitting back, arms folded with a smirk on his face.

I moved it in here to comply with GONYK

I of all people don't have to be reminded that Morey is Swine.

While Morey waits for the Knicks to blink he leaves Melo in this situation.

Hes waiting for nothing by the way

Yes this would be geared for the post season, but he needs the year to try to fit in to what they do. Which he will actually try to do because he respects CP3 and Harden. Which (by the way) he should be doing regardless of the talent surrounding him.

Your also right that Phil has done it before with MJ and Kobe. Both elevated their games. Melo, not so much.

Yes he has the NTC, and your reaction when it happened is spot on.

Our fault to be in this position, I knew the NTC was going to be an issue too.

Him having the NTC puts him on equal ground with the Knicks, who also have a NTC. They cancel each other out.

Both parties have more to gain by working in concert with each other, and exploring all options. No one expects him to waive the NTC to go to a bad situation. He needs to leverage other teams against Houston to get out, just like he leveraged the Nets against us to get here.

When I talk about the $$ I'm referring to him re-upping with the team that acquires him. That's exclusively about $$$. He would have more mobility and explore other options if not bound by that

[Jalen Bluntson]

Take a look at the Celtics depth chart. They have an opening in the PF position.

Soon there will be a battle between BOS vs CLE vs HOU for Melo's service.

BOS is very slick and would compensate to bring Melo in.

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Melo/Horford

Money is no issue here? What does Boston have left to trade?

[NYG]

Take a look at the Celtics depth chart. They have an opening in the PF position.

Soon there will be a battle between BOS vs CLE vs HOU for Melo's service.

BOS is very slick and would compensate to bring Melo in.

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Melo/Horford

Money is no issue here? What does Boston have left to trade?

Boston has no way to get Melo without giving up too much.

[Reign23]

Take a look at the Celtics depth chart. They have an opening in the PF position.

Soon there will be a battle between BOS vs CLE vs HOU for Melo's service.

BOS is very slick and would compensate to bring Melo in.

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Melo/Horford

Money is no issue here? What does Boston have left to trade?

boy, that lineup is legit

[Marty McFly]

they're saving that pf slot for ant davis.

[Chuck-Cheese]

Take a look at the Celtics depth chart. They have an opening in the PF position.

Soon there will be a battle between BOS vs CLE vs HOU for Melo's service.

BOS is very slick and would compensate to bring Melo in.

bos wont be in the battle. They couldn't absorb Melos contract even if they wanted to.

[NYKAL]

Melo in another pickup game with youngins & Kuz played well in his teams loss.

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/09/01/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-luke-kornet/

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/08/31/new-york-knicks-mindaugas-kuzminskas-eurobasket/

[moocow007]

Take a look at the Celtics depth chart. They have an opening in the PF position.

Soon there will be a battle between BOS vs CLE vs HOU for Melo's service.

BOS is very slick and would compensate to bring Melo in.

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Melo/Horford

Money is no issue here? What does Boston have left to trade?

Boston has no way to get Melo without giving up too much.

Boston doesn't have enough contracts period that would allow them to take on Anthony. Their new "Big 3" takes up 75% of the salary cap. They aren't trading us Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown (the next 2 highest paid players). Would mean they would have to trade everybody left on their roster and even then combined, that wouldn't be enough to match Anthony's contract.

Boston is going to basically be calling around to see if any remaining vet free agents that can still run up and down the floor for a few minutes to see if they want to join them.

[Dr. Detfink]

Where do these crazy rumors come from that someone is going to give the Knicks bonafide assets like the draft pick the Cavs received for Melo? No team is crazy enough to do something that stupid.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Irving/Brown/Hayward/Melo/Horford

Money is no issue here? What does Boston have left to trade?

Boston has no way to get Melo without giving up too much.

Boston doesn't have enough contracts period that would allow them to take on Anthony. Their new "Big 3" takes up 75% of the salary cap. They aren't trading us Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown (the next 2 highest paid players). Would mean they would have to trade everybody left on their roster and even then combined, that wouldn't be enough to match Anthony's contract.

Boston is going to basically be calling around to see if any remaining vet free agents that can still run up and down the floor for a few minutes to see if they want to join them.

when does melo waive NTC to go to boston exactly?

[moocow007]

Boston has no way to get Melo without giving up too much.

Boston doesn't have enough contracts period that would allow them to take on Anthony. Their new "Big 3" takes up 75% of the salary cap. They aren't trading us Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown (the next 2 highest paid players). Would mean they would have to trade everybody left on their roster and even then combined, that wouldn't be enough to match Anthony's contract.

Boston is going to basically be calling around to see if any remaining vet free agents that can still run up and down the floor for a few minutes to see if they want to join them.

when does melo waive NTC to go to boston exactly?

I actually can see him doing it. He'd get to stay close to his kids (he is trying to reconcile with LaLa too I believe). He'd move to what would have to be considered the top team in the East. He get's to stay near all his current business happenings (most of them in this area). He'd get to hover over the Knicks like that inlaw that just wont' go away. Let's just say it'll be easier to get Anthony to waive his NTC to go to Boston than it would be to find a trade that would work with Boston for Anthony.

[BKlutch]

Boston doesn't have enough contracts period that would allow them to take on Anthony. Their new "Big 3" takes up 75% of the salary cap. They aren't trading us Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown (the next 2 highest paid players). Would mean they would have to trade everybody left on their roster and even then combined, that wouldn't be enough to match Anthony's contract.

Boston is going to basically be calling around to see if any remaining vet free agents that can still run up and down the floor for a few minutes to see if they want to join them.

when does melo waive NTC to go to boston exactly?

I actually can see him doing it. He'd get to stay close to his kids (he is trying to reconcile with LaLa too I believe). He'd move to what would have to be considered the top team in the East. He get's to stay near all his current business happenings (most of them in this area). He'd get to hover over the Knicks like that inlaw that just won't go away.

I'd be genuinely happy for him to go to a contender and make them better for a couple of years, while we continue to rebuild without any issues surrounding his not being in the same window as the young guns. But if that doesn't happen, it's on the coach to make sure that he plays the kind of ball the team needs to play. If he does that, they'll still be fun to watch. If he doesn't, I see him opting out and Horny being forced out.

[Fat]

I'm itching to burn my Melo hoodie

[god shammgod]

Melo in another pickup game with youngins & Kuz played well in his teams loss.

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/09/01/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-luke-kornet/

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/08/31/new-york-knicks-mindaugas-kuzminskas-eurobasket/

melo has had jeff and half the team at his gym and people still think he's going somewhere. maybe during the season but not anytime soon.

[BKlutch]

Melo in another pickup game with youngins & Kuz played well in his teams loss.

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/09/01/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-luke-kornet/

https://dailyknicks.com/2017/08/31/new-york-knicks-mindaugas-kuzminskas-eurobasket/

melo has had jeff and half the team at his gym and people still think he's going somewhere. maybe during the season but not anytime soon.

It's better if he enjoys playing with the new kids so he doesn't feel so bad when they get more opportunities this year, and we play an uptempo offense.

[3toheadmelo]

I'm itching to burn my Melo hoodie

how dare u

[Knicksfan1992]

Boston would have to move Horford in a Melo deal. Doubt it happens at this stage.

[Knicksfan1992]

Basically based on what I'm reading, from our standpoint, we're going to have to find a team that has at the most a 2 year deal that can offset Melo's. It seems clear we're not taking additional salary just to move Melo (which makes sense even if some clowns here are trying to warp it not to make sense).

OKC was interesting because, in theory, they could give us Kanter who we'd be stuck with for, at most, this year and next. So basically you'd be replacing Melo with Kanter (whom we could probably buy out after this year) and some young guys like maybe Abrines and Ferguson.

Again I'm not sweating a Melo trade because the best name we ever heard getting thrown around was Moe Harkless... Moe Harkless isn't making or breaking a rebuild. If we have to ride out with Melo for 1 more year so be it. We've been in worse positions before this. No point in making a bad situation worse by taking on a Ryan Anderson or a Meyers Leonard just to rid ourselves of an older productive player.