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Post#162 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Fri Sep 1, 2017 6:00 am

He looked good. They failed mention that he dropped a wide open TD pass.

Parris Campbell - WR - Buckeyes

Ohio State redshirt junior WR Parris Campbell caught six passes for 136 yards and a touchdown in Thursday's 49-21 win over Indiana.

Big game for Campbell out of the box, particularly given that Ohio State's receiving corps was considered one of the team's question marks (relatively speaking) given their greenness. The 6-foot-1, 208-pound redshirt junior made his speed felt throughout the game, no more so than on a 74-yard touchdown grab with time running down in the third quarter. Campbell led the Buckeyes with both catches and yardage in the game. He has an opportunity in front of him for a big year given the high-powered offensive attack in which he plays.

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Post#163 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Fri Sep 1, 2017 6:03 am

J.K. Dobbins - RB - Buckeyes

Ohio State freshman RB J.K. Dobbins rushed for 181 yards on 29 carries in Thursday's 49-21 win over Indiana.

Wally Pipp is cringing in his grave right now. And Mike Weber might just be cringing in the locker room. Dobbins drew a surprise start in place of an injured Weber (hamstring) on Thursday and proceeded to destroy the Hoosiers. While he did not find the end zone in the contest, the 5-foot-10, 200-pound true freshman averaged 6.2 YPC and looked completely at ease in the big spot. Maybe Weber hasn't officially been Wally Pipp-ed yet, but he figures to have to battle for carries with the uber-talented youngster moving forward. Expect more updates on this running backs situation as Ohio State prepares for a spotlight showdown with Oklahoma to be played a week from Saturday.

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Post#164 » by I_am_1z » Sat Sep 2, 2017 2:28 am

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
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Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Hey 1z, are you currently watching the Ohio State, Indiana game? J.K. Dobbins is proof that Saquan Barkley is not even the best running back in the Big 10 conference.


Must I keep repeating myself?

230lbs
Benches 225lb x30
Squats 600lbs
Power Cleans 405lbs
Runs a 4.33 40
Likely has a plus 40 in vert and 11 foot broad jump
Was PFF's most elusive RB last year
Had the most +15 yard runs according to PFF
Had the most targets without a drop for RBs according to PFF

He's the best RB in college and pros right now.


Lol. All I can do is laugh.


Still awaiting on your respond on why Guice and Dobbins are better. You've actually provided no testimony as to why they are better.
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Post#165 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Sep 2, 2017 10:59 am

I_am_1z wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Must I keep repeating myself?

230lbs
Benches 225lb x30
Squats 600lbs
Power Cleans 405lbs
Runs a 4.33 40
Likely has a plus 40 in vert and 11 foot broad jump
Was PFF's most elusive RB last year
Had the most +15 yard runs according to PFF
Had the most targets without a drop for RBs according to PFF

He's the best RB in college and pros right now.


Lol. All I can do is laugh.


Still awaiting on your respond on why Guice and Dobbins are better. You've actually provided no testimony as to why they are better.



1z, being a better all around athlete / freak of nature, doesn't necessarily equate to being the better football player. As a pure RB there are other essential things like vision, elusiveness, balance, break tackle ability, and one's ability to jump cut (Dobbins has a knack of doing that to get into a different hole); that are far more important to assess who's the better RB. Those are things that the weight room can't measure but is extremely critical to one's success in the gridiron. Nick Chubb, if he can regain his old form could very well be the best RB in the country. Needless to say, I don't think the worse of Barkley. He's a heck of a player indeed, but I'm not overly impressed by his overall skill set in terms of the type of runner he is. He's not a unique RB by any stretch of the imagination. That's my opinion.
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Post#166 » by I_am_1z » Sat Sep 2, 2017 4:48 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
Lol. All I can do is laugh.


Still awaiting on your respond on why Guice and Dobbins are better. You've actually provided no testimony as to why they are better.



1z, being a better all around athlete / freak of nature, doesn't necessarily equate to being the better football player. As a pure RB there are other essential things like vision, elusiveness, balance, break tackle ability, and one's ability to jump cut (Dobbins has a knack of doing that to get into a different hole); that are far more important to assess who's the better RB. Those are things that the weight room can't measure but is extremely critical to one's success in the gridiron. Nick Chubb, if he can regain his old form could very well be the best RB in the country. Needless to say, I don't think the worse of Barkley. He's a heck of a player indeed, but I'm not overly impressed by his overall skill set in terms of the type of runner he is. He's not a unique RB by any stretch of the imagination. That's my opinion.


Still waiting on how Guice and Dobbins are better
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Post#167 » by Dodub » Sat Sep 2, 2017 5:13 pm

I_am_1z wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Still awaiting on your respond on why Guice and Dobbins are better. You've actually provided no testimony as to why they are better.



1z, being a better all around athlete / freak of nature, doesn't necessarily equate to being the better football player. As a pure RB there are other essential things like vision, elusiveness, balance, break tackle ability, and one's ability to jump cut (Dobbins has a knack of doing that to get into a different hole); that are far more important to assess who's the better RB. Those are things that the weight room can't measure but is extremely critical to one's success in the gridiron. Nick Chubb, if he can regain his old form could very well be the best RB in the country. Needless to say, I don't think the worse of Barkley. He's a heck of a player indeed, but I'm not overly impressed by his overall skill set in terms of the type of runner he is. He's not a unique RB by any stretch of the imagination. That's my opinion.


Still waiting on how Guice and Dobbins are better


He clearly stated why he's no as high on him as you and also pointed out things that he likes about Dobbins. He already answered why he thinks they're better. Whether or not you disagree with him is one thing, but he's made his opinion and gave reasoning.
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Post#168 » by Dodub » Sat Sep 2, 2017 6:10 pm

Eek. Josh Allen probably should of went pro. Things aren't going great against Iowa
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Post#173 » by Dodub » Sat Sep 2, 2017 10:44 pm

How much money did Josh Allen lose by returning to college?
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Post#174 » by I_am_1z » Sat Sep 2, 2017 10:48 pm

Dodub wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:

1z, being a better all around athlete / freak of nature, doesn't necessarily equate to being the better football player. As a pure RB there are other essential things like vision, elusiveness, balance, break tackle ability, and one's ability to jump cut (Dobbins has a knack of doing that to get into a different hole); that are far more important to assess who's the better RB. Those are things that the weight room can't measure but is extremely critical to one's success in the gridiron. Nick Chubb, if he can regain his old form could very well be the best RB in the country. Needless to say, I don't think the worse of Barkley. He's a heck of a player indeed, but I'm not overly impressed by his overall skill set in terms of the type of runner he is. He's not a unique RB by any stretch of the imagination. That's my opinion.


Still waiting on how Guice and Dobbins are better


He clearly stated why he's no as high on him as you and also pointed out things that he likes about Dobbins. He already answered why he thinks they're better. Whether or not you disagree with him is one thing, but he's made his opinion and gave reasoning.


Bingo has listed traits of a running back. I want to know what Bingo believes Dobbins and Guice do better than Saquon Barkley. He's been stuck on this for months.
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Post#175 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Sep 2, 2017 11:09 pm

I_am_1z wrote:
Dodub wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Still waiting on how Guice and Dobbins are better


He clearly stated why he's no as high on him as you and also pointed out things that he likes about Dobbins. He already answered why he thinks they're better. Whether or not you disagree with him is one thing, but he's made his opinion and gave reasoning.


Bingo has listed traits of a running back. I want to know what Bingo believes Dobbins and Guice do better than Saquon Barkley. He's been stuck on this for months.


1z, in terms of all the traits Guice is faster, more agile and elusive. Dobbins jump cut and vision is better. Chubb is better at everything except for pass blocking. Ronald Jones and Cam Akers both have better acceleration. To simplify it all of them can do everything better than Saquon EXCEPT for break tackle ability, and pass blocking. Saquon is a better pass catcher than Dobbins and maybe Chubb, but the others are clearly better than him outside lining up in the slot as a pass catcher. Going back to break tackle ability, that one, Barkley is on another level as a running back. He may be a little bit more elusive than Cam but not better than him as an overall running back.
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Post#176 » by Dodub » Sat Sep 2, 2017 11:23 pm

I_am_1z wrote:
Dodub wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Still waiting on how Guice and Dobbins are better


He clearly stated why he's no as high on him as you and also pointed out things that he likes about Dobbins. He already answered why he thinks they're better. Whether or not you disagree with him is one thing, but he's made his opinion and gave reasoning.


Bingo has listed traits of a running back. I want to know what Bingo believes Dobbins and Guice do better than Saquon Barkley. He's been stuck on this for months.


From an outside perspective, I'd say that you're more stuck on it than he is.
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Post#177 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Sep 3, 2017 12:06 am

Dodub wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Dodub wrote:
He clearly stated why he's no as high on him as you and also pointed out things that he likes about Dobbins. He already answered why he thinks they're better. Whether or not you disagree with him is one thing, but he's made his opinion and gave reasoning.


Bingo has listed traits of a running back. I want to know what Bingo believes Dobbins and Guice do better than Saquon Barkley. He's been stuck on this for months.


From an outside perspective, I'd say that you're more stuck on it than he is.


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Post#178 » by I_am_1z » Sun Sep 3, 2017 12:09 am

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Dodub wrote:
He clearly stated why he's no as high on him as you and also pointed out things that he likes about Dobbins. He already answered why he thinks they're better. Whether or not you disagree with him is one thing, but he's made his opinion and gave reasoning.


Bingo has listed traits of a running back. I want to know what Bingo believes Dobbins and Guice do better than Saquon Barkley. He's been stuck on this for months.


1z, in terms of all the traits Guice is faster, more agile and elusive. Dobbins jump cut and vision is better. Chubb is better at everything except for pass blocking. Ronald Jones and Cam Akers both have better acceleration. To simplify it all of them can do everything better than Saquon EXCEPT for break tackle ability, and pass blocking. Saquon is a better pass catcher than Dobbins and maybe Chubb, but the others are clearly better than him outside lining up in the slot as a pass catcher. Going back to break tackle ability, that one, Barkley is on another level as a running back. He may be a little bit more elusive than Cam but not better than him as an overall running back.


Really, has anyone's jump cut looked this smooth(Shades of McCoy)?
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SQBK has plenty of runs I can refer back to that look exactly like the following video. His acceleration is second to none:
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It's so great to finally be able to get a quote. In a few months perhaps you'll self-ban yourself from giving your opinions on running backs. What you're saying just doesn't register with reality.
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Post#179 » by Dodub » Sun Sep 3, 2017 12:10 am

Darnold is playing like garbage. The Hype Train is losing steam. Josh Allen laid an egg earlier
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Post#180 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Sep 3, 2017 1:04 am

Dodub wrote:How much money did Josh Allen lose by returning to college?


Meanwhile Deondre François is making a case for himself. Not as a #1 overall pick, but certainly as a formidable draft prospect worthy of a 1st round grade. FSU has a lot of talent this year. François is definitely one of them. I'm looking at his body language and the kid exudes confidence. Jimbo Fischer may not be able to convince him to return for another season.

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