2017 Nets Offseason Thread III

ChokeFasncists · Post #1961 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Sep 2, 2017 8:17 am

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Our stretch 4 right there. Good to have ya

(doesn't this belong more to the DMC thread tho?)

ChokeFasncists · Post #1962 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Sep 2, 2017 8:27 am

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Ror1997 wrote:Compared to Justin Hamilton, what's the benefit of Hawes?

Costs less, better passer, bangs bodies. Hawes is less agile (not that Hamilton was evn an average defender) and not quite as good from 3, but at the minimum for a max of 15 minutes a night, why not?

Hawes is much tougher than JHam, he did well against Whiteside in the playoffs, got injured tho.

JHam was sizzling at the beginning of the season but not quite later on, Hawes can be as good or better at shooting 3s.

I guess the biggest concern is that he might want to go to a contender that would probably give him more PT, like the Cavs, the Spurs or the Celts, depending on where Bogut is gonna land.

gambakupu · Post #1963 » by **gambakupu** » Sat Sep 2, 2017 12:55 pm

Might be off topic and if so, sorry

Do you think Shengelia will get another shot in NBA? (preferably with NETS)

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Ror1997 · Post #1964 » by **Ror1997** » Sat Sep 2, 2017 1:47 pm

gambakupu wrote:Might be off topic and if so, sorry

Do you think Shengelia will get another shot in NBA? (preferably with NETS)

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TOKOMOTIVE!!!

idk though. I remember he as putting up good DLeague numbers back in the day so but never good nba action. So he could just not be an NBA player. Not to sure he would even want to come back to the NBA either if He's already successful and valuable overseas.

MrDollarBills · Post #1965 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 12:07 am

nah i'll pass on Toko.

playteamball · Post #1966 » by **playteamball** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 3:48 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Curns13 wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:Compared to Justin Hamilton, what's the benefit of Hawes?

Costs less, better passer, bangs bodies. Hawes is less agile (not that Hamilton was evn an average defender) and not quite as good from 3, but at the minimum for a max of 15 minutes a night, why not?

Hawes is much tougher than JHam, he did well against Whiteside in the playoffs, got injured tho.

JHam was sizzling at the beginning of the season but not quite later on, Hawes can be as good or better at shooting 3s.

I guess the biggest concern is that he might want to go to a contender that would probably give him more PT, like the Cavs, the Spurs or the Celts, depending on where Bogut is gonna land.

Hamilton is much more agile than Hawes, both offensively and defensively. I'd give the edge to Hamilton.

Paradise · Post #1967 » by **Paradise** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 4:10 am

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ChokeFasncists · Post #1968 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 9:09 am

playteamball wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
Curns13 wrote:Costs less, better passer, bangs bodies. Hawes is less agile (not that Hamilton was evn an average defender) and not quite as good from 3, but at the minimum for a max of 15 minutes a night, why not?

Hawes is much tougher than JHam, he did well against Whiteside in the playoffs, got injured tho.

JHam was sizzling at the beginning of the season but not quite later on, Hawes can be as good or better at shooting 3s.

I guess the biggest concern is that he might want to go to a contender that would probably give him more PT, like the Cavs, the Spurs or the Celts, depending on where Bogut is gonna land.

Hamilton is much more agile than Hawes, both offensively and defensively. I'd give the edge to Hamilton.

You mean you think JHam is the better player?

Nah, Hawes is definitely the better passer and defender. He's got better track record, he's paid more. We will find out what GMs think about them soon.

Paradise · Post #1969 » by **Paradise** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 6:28 pm

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this is where my dislike for Lonzo Ball begins...

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MrDollarBills · Post #1970 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 7:09 pm

Is it that much of a big deal? When I was his age I wanted to listen to early 00s hip hop like Jay Z, Nas, Lox etc and not old school rap from 1986. It's a normal thing to prefer what's out currently to stuff from the past if this is what you're growing up listening to.

I mean I understand people getting mad that he dissed Nas since there would be no Migos or Future if not for Nas being one of the trailblazers of rap but Lonzo is a kid...can't expect someone born in 1997 to appreciate how dope Nas is. *shrugs*

Hip hop is trash nowadays anyway, at least for me. i'd rather listen to some **** like The Deftones.

steady · Post #1971 » by **steady** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 8:32 pm

So much happened this offseason

Apart from Nets I am really looking forward to seeing how these teams do

Celtics
Cavaliers
Raptors - because of first round pick and also they lost a few key players
76ers

Rockets
Thunder
Nuggets
Wolves
Lakers

FlipFlopShot · Post #1972 » by **FlipFlopShot** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 10:34 pm

Paradise wrote:

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This kid knows better or he needs to expand his music. Real hip hop is Migos and Future? The current hip hop isn't even Migos and Future.

Ror1997 · Post #1973 » by **Ror1997** » Sun Sep 3, 2017 10:54 pm

Doubt he meant any disrespect. That's something somebody says when they're hanging out with their friends, and Lonzo was just being himself in front of the media. Lonzo just has to learn to be more careful with the media. His dad is controversial and Lonzo is pretty laid back, but the media is going to twist what he says to make him seem like his father.

shakendfries · Post #1974 » by **shakendfries** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 1:10 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Hip hop is trash nowadays anyway, at least for me. i'd rather listen to some **** like The Deftones.

Now, "mainstream" hip-pop is trash, as has always been the case, from the MC Hammer Can't Touch This era, to the Snap N Roll era, and the current muble rap era. But there has never been a greater selection of amazing music being produced within and around the genre

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MrDollarBills · Post #1975 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 2:09 am

shakendfries wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Hip hop is trash nowadays anyway, at least for me. i'd rather listen to some **** like The Deftones.

Now, "mainstream" hip-pop is trash, as has always been the case, from the MC Hammer Can't Touch This era, to the Snap N Roll era, and the current muble rap era. But there has never been a greater selection of amazing music being produced within and around the genre

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Yeah I'm sure there's a ton of good rappers out that are below the mainstream radar.

I just have lost all interest in hip hop/rap in general. It bores me. I still enjoy the stuff from mid/late 90s and 2000-2010 but after that i just let it go.

Ror1997 · Post #1976 » by **Ror1997** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 4:05 am

Shake, that gambino album is the absolute worst piece of garbage I've ever heard in my life.

shakendfries · Post #1977 » by **shakendfries** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 5:16 am

Ror1997 wrote:Shake, that gambino album is the absolute worst piece of garbage I've ever heard in my life.

not gonna front, redbone is the only song I've listened too off the album :lol:

to me, it's just an example of ppl experimenting with instrumentation as it relates to the broader hiphop and the funk that inspired its creation

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most ppl boil hiphop down to the self-aggrandizement of the rich young & dumb youth, but there's more than just that which appears at the surface level

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as a genre that largely appeals to the youth, the mainstream will likely turn off a more mature audience but there's definitely compelling artistry that occurs

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Papi_swav · Post #1978 » by **Papi_swav** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 5:46 am

This generation has no respect for elders... thats like saying MJ aint real NBA and JR Smith is, Nas is top 5 dead or alive and even if these kids don't listen to him today, I'm pretty sure their favorite rappers or favorite rappers favorite rapper was influenced by Nas in some way. Like MDB said, when I was growing up I didn't really want to hear the 80s kind of rap etc but I would never discredit the guys that pioneered the game, even the rappers in my era always shouted out the OGs... The point is, do your history kids.

shakendfries · Post #1979 » by **shakendfries** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 6:29 am

Papi_swav wrote:This generation has no respect for elders... thats like saying MJ aint real NBA and JR Smith is, Nas is top 5 dead or alive and even if these kids don't listen to him today, I'm pretty sure their favorite rappers or favorite rappers favorite rapper was influenced by Nas in some way. Like MDB said, when I was growing up I didn't really want to hear the 80s kind of rap etc but I would never discredit the guys that pioneered the game, even the rappers in my era always shouted out the OGs... The point is, do your history kids.

the 90s may be closer to you & me, but the current gen is inspired by the music of the 00's like Kanye, N.E.R.D., Cudi & Lil Wayne. diddy literally just went on a nostalgia tour a few months ago. young people dgaf about old ppl - not really news. especially considering old ppl constantly bash young ppl doing stuff

there's no doubt the nas is irrelevant sentiment is disconcerting, especially considering Nas dropped one of the most self-aware hip-hop songs of the year just a few months back

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hopefully the project nas is working on turns out to be just as polished as JayZs 4:44, and can honestly hold it's own against his best works

Paradise · Post #1980 » by **Paradise** » Mon Sep 4, 2017 8:21 am

Nas is also responsible for the ascension of new talent like J Cole and Dave East. Great new young artists with story telling talent inspired by Nas. It's not like this is Rakim or something.

Nas, Jay-Z and Biggie were the trinity of NY rap. You can't make corny ass claims that nobody listens to him and you haven't played a day in your life. Nas is affiliated with lots of players as well.

I think most get the impression that the intelligent, poetry in rap is too boring for these new millennials. Stuff with real world problems is a turn off.

Migos, Future are fun to listen to but these guys don't make anything to motivate their communities.

I think it's kind of disturbing to think Migos and Future represent real hip hop. Entertainment and artistry are different things. I grew up on mainstream, underground and poetic soul music.

These kids would rather support guys that wear purses and claim they pop pills as much as they smoke weed. That's nice but the world is more on a social intelligence level and these kids could benefit from a balance of both.

I kind of dislike this new long leash this Lonzo kid is getting with the way he can easily say anything he wants to the media but any other rookie would be told to STFU by now.

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